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Haha, yeah... as the big boys like the Yankees and Red Sox have proven, money covers a lot of mistakes.
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Also, as time moves on, everyone sees exactly how the players perform. With a large enough sample size, everyone will be right.
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True, though this assumes that we eventually have access to card performance data across all leagues. I imagine this is something that can be done in v20 with an API.
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OVR, Name, FIP_p, Price 90 Gary Peters 4.02, 8K 91 Josh Beckett 4.23, 9K 91 Chris Carpenter 4,24, 8K 89 Whitey Ford 4.26, 4.5K 93 David Cone 4.27, 8K 89 Gaylord Perry 4.29, 4.5K 89 Roy Halladay 4.29, 6.5K 84 Larry Dierker 4.40, 2.1K 78 Len Barker 4.48, 3.5K The prices may have moved a little, but you should be able to find a couple from that list. |
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01-07-2019, 05:57 PM | #48 |
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Here's the whole list. The prices are the Last 5 average, mostly from within a week or so depending upon the last time I saw it.
Edit: removed the chart since it has been updated on page 6/7 and the prices are now out of date. Last edited by Orcin; 01-15-2019 at 12:36 PM. |
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I only have 79 at 90+, but I have quite a few high golds also. Sure, I will send it to you soon.
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FIP_p = 8.661141 - (.01747*STUFF) - (.03291*MOV) - (.01737*CON) This thread motivated me to update some of my numbers today. This model uses data from all pitchers in my league with at least 500 career IP across any league level. It actually correlates better to Perfect League FIP from last week than the model that uses only PL data. I'm guessing that will change as the amount of PL-only data increases. |
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01-07-2019, 06:21 PM | #52 |
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Nice. I'll go through yours and add 90+ guys that I have in my spreadsheet, update the formula for FIP (I'll include both the PL-only model as well as the all-league model), then send it back to you. I'll also add a column for something like FIP/PP to get an idea of the most efficient SPs.
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01-07-2019, 07:15 PM | #54 |
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I need more charts, these are awesome guys!!!
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01-07-2019, 08:31 PM | #55 |
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Hi guys, sorry guys, I wrote before seeing above
What about a Tom Seaver card? Does anyone have one? He should be a 100, I forgot the 1.76 season, what year it was Last edited by grall1126; 01-07-2019 at 08:32 PM. |
01-07-2019, 08:41 PM | #56 |
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It’s okay. That card and the 100 Koufax are cards I’d sell right away. You can prb get two high-diamond SPs like a 96 Brown, a 93 or 94 Maddux, etc. for what you’d get for a 100 Seaver.
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This thread is fascinating, but if you could stop giving away the list of pitchers I want, that'd be fantastic. A couple of my targets will clearly cost me more on the rare occasion they are on the auction block for 5 minutes before someone does a buy now next time. Thanks guys lol
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01-07-2019, 09:39 PM | #58 |
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Great read to come home to.
The only thing I can contribute is that in both beta and to this point on live Brown and Scott were the 2 most common pitchers in the leaderboards in every league I have played through this point with 3 teams. Both are in my rotation and have performed as expected. I pulled Brown in my initial 25 packs and couldn't have been happier. Has was my #1 target. I paid roughly 30k PP for Scott and I have no regrets. Hes also been down as low as 20k recently. Add Degrom as well to this as well 2 pitchers that were sub par to me in diamond were Gerrit Cole and for some reason Kershaw Last edited by Clavette; 01-07-2019 at 09:57 PM. |
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This seems to change in the higher leagues. Left handers get shelled regularly and are generally relegated to the bullpen. Even my 100 R. Johnson is all the way down as my 5th starter. Degrom is consistently putting out better outings. So I'm not sure how you can account for that, but probably should. Also your 100 Sandy Koufax is showing the STUFF rating as a RP not a SP. He is 103 as an SP and 113 as a RP.
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