Female First-Names File Now Available

Porb · 07-07-2006, 08:17 PM

Here.

Credit goes to LivinLegend for creating this list; I only converted it to the current format. There are a little over a 1000 first names in this file.

So we have now have female photos, xml for pbp + news, and names available. Player and team nicknames could probably also use a little tweaking, but I think this project is mostly done. A new photo for ties in the leaderboard could be done, too.

To use this file, place in the OOTP 2006/data/database folder before starting up the league. This file only has names for country 0 (U.S.) - so foreign players shouldn't be allowed. If you don't mind foreign players with names like Meg, then these names can easily be replicated for the other country codes using something like Excel.

Someday I'll compile a list of female first names from other countries...

edit: Any modded files in use before installing the latest patch will be erased during patch installation. Always have a backup!

Tom the Fish · 07-08-2006, 12:23 PM

Figued I'd put this here as well so those who know about name files can take a look as well. When I start a league using this name file, a large amount of the names are "T". That's it, just T. seems like close to half, if not more. I looked over the text file but couldn't find anything obvious.

Thanks,
Tom

Porb · 07-08-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom the Fish

Figued I'd put this here as well so those who know about name files can take a look as well. When I start a league using this name file, a large amount of the names are "T". That's it, just T. seems like close to half, if not more. I looked over the text file but couldn't find anything obvious.

Thanks,
Tom

Hmm, have you tried right-clicking the link and using "save link as"?

I just tried left-clicking this link and a new window opened, displaying the contents of the file. This can be pasted into a new txt file, but perhaps there could be formatting errors?

Tom the Fish · 07-08-2006, 02:50 PM

I've been playing around with it. It seems that whatever i use for a first name for the GM, the first letter becomes the name for many of the players. However, if i start as Joe Nobody, then the problem goes away. Then i change Joe Nobody to me and all is well. Although I hope the problem doesn't repeat at the player draft...

Seems like a weird little bug, no idea if it's the game or the text file.

Tom

battists · 07-17-2006, 01:23 PM

Just bear in mind as well, that the PbP is not gender-neutral. That is, news articles and PbP will still use the masculine pronoun.

Raidergoo · 07-17-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Just bear in mind as well, that the PbP is not gender-neutral. That is, news articles and PbP will still use the masculine pronoun.

battists, you may have missed that the first post mentioned the custom english.xml that changes male pronouns to female ones.

battists · 07-17-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

battists, you may have missed that the first post mentioned the custom english.xml that changes male pronouns to female ones.

Yup, missed it. But there are also hard-coded references in the game that will not be caught by changing the XML file.

Just warnin' ya!

Steve

dougaiton · 07-17-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Yup, missed it. But there are also hard-coded references in the game that will not be caught by changing the XML file.

Just warnin' ya!

Steve

Just checking, but I thought the hardcoded references were only to GMs, right? Or are there other Easter Eggs in there?

battists · 07-17-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dougaiton

Just checking, but I thought the hardcoded references were only to GMs, right? Or are there other Easter Eggs in there?

Some of the text that appears in a PBP game is hard-coded. For example, when it says "That was his 15th home run of the season." So, even if you have a female baseball league, all of these will say "his". It's also hard-coded when a fielder waves off another fielder, for example.

There are others as well, but there is no one comprehensive list. One way to check this would be to replace all categories in the XML file with phrases starting with "XML:"

That way, when you play a game, any line that does NOT begin with "XML:" is hard-coded. (Except for the fact that some XML entries span multiple lines.)

dougaiton · 07-17-2006, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

Some of the text that appears in a PBP game is hard-coded. For example, when it says "That was his 15th home run of the season." So, even if you have a female baseball league, all of these will say "his". It's also hard-coded when a fielder waves off another fielder, for example.

There are others as well, but there is no one comprehensive list. One way to check this would be to replace all categories in the XML file with phrases starting with "XML:"

That way, when you play a game, any line that does NOT begin with "XML:" is hard-coded. (Except for the fact that some XML entries span multiple lines.)

Heck. Ah well, I can turn a blind eye to that! Many thanks for the answer, and I'll give it a whirl and see what other ones pop up.

BMW · 09-03-2008, 11:12 PM

This thread is very old, but in case anyone is still looking for a file, this one has all the standard nations, with anywhere from 100-8000 names per nation.

There may be some repeated names within a nation, and aside from the US and US historical, all the Name Rate fields are set to 1.

There are quite a few special characters in there, and I haven't tested it with OOTP, but it's here for anyone who wants to take the final steps.

I couldn't get the ZIP small enough, so I took the .txt file and slapped an .xls extension on it. Just erase the .xls and you have your normal .txt file.

The Game · 06-01-2021, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW

This thread is very old, but in case anyone is still looking for a file, this one has all the standard nations, with anywhere from 100-8000 names per nation.

There may be some repeated names within a nation, and aside from the US and US historical, all the Name Rate fields are set to 1.

There are quite a few special characters in there, and I haven't tested it with OOTP, but it's here for anyone who wants to take the final steps.

I couldn't get the ZIP small enough, so I took the .txt file and slapped an .xls extension on it. Just erase the .xls and you have your normal .txt file.

If i add this to the existing OOTP default 1st names, do they need to be in alphabetical order to work? I was just going to copy & paste to the back end of the 1st names txt.

BMW · 06-01-2021, 09:29 PM

This file is so old, I have no idea to what extent it would still work. This might have been made for OOTP8 or OOTP9 and we're on OOTP22 now.

That said, others in this subforum might know if the file would work in general. I do doubt that at any time the names needed to be in alphabetical order to work.

As a programmer myself, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to expect any variable dataset to be loaded into your program and make it only work if the data was in alphabetical order. Granted you could always be adapting your old code to new code and have a few legacy behaviors - I'm just saying that it's pretty unlikely.

joefromchicago · 06-01-2021, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

If i add this to the existing OOTP default 1st names, do they need to be in alphabetical order to work? I was just going to copy & paste to the back end of the 1st names txt.

If you do that, you'll be mixing male and female names together. If that's your intention, then go for it. Alphabetical order doesn't matter. If not, then you'll need to assign different nameset IDs to one or the other.

And if you want a nice, tidy, alphabetized names file, you can always copy and paste the data from the names file into a spreadsheet program. There, you can sort the data however you like and then C&P it back into the text file.

The Game · 06-02-2021, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by joefromchicago

If you do that, you'll be mixing male and female names together. If that's your intention, then go for it. Alphabetical order doesn't matter. If not, then you'll need to assign different nameset IDs to one or the other.

And if you want a nice, tidy, alphabetized names file, you can always copy and paste the data from the names file into a spreadsheet program. There, you can sort the data however you like and then C&P it back into the text file.

Yes, that is my intent. thanx.

07-07-2006, 08:17 PM	#1
Porb Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 38	Female First-Names File Now Available Here. Credit goes to LivinLegend for creating this list; I only converted it to the current format. There are a little over a 1000 first names in this file. So we have now have female photos, xml for pbp + news, and names available. Player and team nicknames could probably also use a little tweaking, but I think this project is mostly done. A new photo for ties in the leaderboard could be done, too. To use this file, place in the OOTP 2006/data/database folder before starting up the league. This file only has names for country 0 (U.S.) - so foreign players shouldn't be allowed. If you don't mind foreign players with names like Meg, then these names can easily be replicated for the other country codes using something like Excel. Someday I'll compile a list of female first names from other countries... edit: Any modded files in use before installing the latest patch will be erased during patch installation. Always have a backup! Last edited by Porb; 07-07-2006 at 09:26 PM.

07-08-2006, 12:23 PM	#2
Tom the Fish All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jingu Stadium Posts: 507	Figued I'd put this here as well so those who know about name files can take a look as well. When I start a league using this name file, a large amount of the names are "T". That's it, just T. seems like close to half, if not more. I looked over the text file but couldn't find anything obvious. Thanks, Tom __________________ "Any talk of rebelliousness has to begin with one's profound appreciation and understanding of tradition." - Lu Shoukun

07-08-2006, 02:50 PM	#4
Tom the Fish All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jingu Stadium Posts: 507	I've been playing around with it. It seems that whatever i use for a first name for the GM, the first letter becomes the name for many of the players. However, if i start as Joe Nobody, then the problem goes away. Then i change Joe Nobody to me and all is well. Although I hope the problem doesn't repeat at the player draft... Seems like a weird little bug, no idea if it's the game or the text file. Tom __________________ "Any talk of rebelliousness has to begin with one's profound appreciation and understanding of tradition." - Lu Shoukun

06-01-2021, 09:29 PM	#13
BMW Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,030	This file is so old, I have no idea to what extent it would still work. This might have been made for OOTP8 or OOTP9 and we're on OOTP22 now. That said, others in this subforum might know if the file would work in general. I do doubt that at any time the names needed to be in alphabetical order to work. As a programmer myself, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to expect any variable dataset to be loaded into your program and make it only work if the data was in alphabetical order. Granted you could always be adapting your old code to new code and have a few legacy behaviors - I'm just saying that it's pretty unlikely. __________________

07-17-2006, 01:23 PM	#5
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 7	Just bear in mind as well, that the PbP is not gender-neutral. That is, news articles and PbP will still use the masculine pronoun.