I'm Already Done With Perfect Team

ignats75 · 02-03-2019, 03:18 PM

I posted in the Bugs Forum, but I'm going to mention it here. I just invested time AND MONEY on Perfect Team; only to discover that it doesn't even work correctly. I AM PISSED. I spent a whole day learning the system, buying extra cards and preparing for a Monday league Launch. I saved/submitted all my work and left for church. I came back, rre-logged in and discovered that the AI completely wiped out my work and rearranged my roster and lineups.

I said some very unchurch-like things to my computer about OOTP and PT. I guess, I'll write off the extra money as a poor investment and forget about this company. Or, file a complaint with Visa and get a refund for deceptive trade practices.

Mike D · 02-03-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ignats75

I posted in the Bugs Forum, but I'm going to mention it here. I just invested time AND MONEY on Perfect Team; only to discover that it doesn't even work correctly. I AM PISSED. I spent a whole day learning the system, buying extra cards and preparing for a Monday league Launch. I saved/submitted all my work and left for church. I came back, rre-logged in and discovered that the AI completely wiped out my work and rearranged my roster and lineups.

I said some very unchurch-like things to my computer about OOTP and PT. I guess, I'll write off the extra money as a poor investment and forget about this company. Or, file a complaint with Visa and get a refund for deceptive trade practices.

Another satisfied customer!

Charley575 · 02-03-2019, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ignats75

I posted in the Bugs Forum, but I'm going to mention it here. I just invested time AND MONEY on Perfect Team; only to discover that it doesn't even work correctly. I AM PISSED. I spent a whole day learning the system, buying extra cards and preparing for a Monday league Launch. I saved/submitted all my work and left for church. I came back, rre-logged in and discovered that the AI completely wiped out my work and rearranged my roster and lineups.

I said some very unchurch-like things to my computer about OOTP and PT. I guess, I'll write off the extra money as a poor investment and forget about this company. Or, file a complaint with Visa and get a refund for deceptive trade practices.

Ok...
I have experienced the issue that you are reporting. I have 3 Perfect Teams. When I started my second one, I had this issue where I opened all my starter packs and set my roster, etc. only to discover upon logging back in that several players had been moved to the reserve roster without my having done it, etc.
I don't know why it happened. Unexplained issue.
It actually did this to me a couple of times before the problem resolved. I don't know if any of the actions I took resolved the problem or not, but it did resolve. Unexplained resolution.

Having said all of that, here are some steps you can take to try to resolve the issue:

1. Most obviously, go into your profile settings and make sure all the control settings are set for you and not the AI. This wasn't my issue and it may not be yours either but its an obvious base you want to have covered before you fly off the handle.

2. I don't know if this makes any difference or not, but I have gotten into the habit of making sure I click "Submit Team" right before I quit. I also go back to the OOTP home screen and "Log Out" of PT before quitting the game. I haven't had any issues since I started doing this.

So try those things before you overreact. Good luck.

NoOne · 02-03-2019, 04:44 PM

i haven't bothered with it, but #2 sounds like a likely culprit relative to context. if you do things that are in cache and not saved yet, it's lost when you close the program or browser etc. since there's a interent connection invovled, this cache can be lost, easily for all sorts of reasons.

Izz · 02-03-2019, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ignats75

I posted in the Bugs Forum, but I'm going to mention it here. I just invested time AND MONEY on Perfect Team; only to discover that it doesn't even work correctly. I AM PISSED. I spent a whole day learning the system, buying extra cards and preparing for a Monday league Launch. I saved/submitted all my work and left for church. I came back, rre-logged in and discovered that the AI completely wiped out my work and rearranged my roster and lineups.

I said some very unchurch-like things to my computer about OOTP and PT. I guess, I'll write off the extra money as a poor investment and forget about this company. Or, file a complaint with Visa and get a refund for deceptive trade practices.

Post a bug report in this sub-forum if you haven't already done so http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...lay.php?f=3952

Also, look through other bug reports to see if anybody else has encountered a similar issue.

Finally, you'll get more responses/discussion if you post within the Perfect Team forum area: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...lay.php?f=3944

My suspicion is that you have some things set to AI control rather than your control as per Charley575's post

r0nster · 02-03-2019, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ignats75

I posted in the Bugs Forum, but I'm going to mention it here. I just invested time AND MONEY on Perfect Team; only to discover that it doesn't even work correctly. I AM PISSED. I spent a whole day learning the system, buying extra cards and preparing for a Monday league Launch. I saved/submitted all my work and left for church. I came back, rre-logged in and discovered that the AI completely wiped out my work and rearranged my roster and lineups.

I said some very unchurch-like things to my computer about OOTP and PT. I guess, I'll write off the extra money as a poor investment and forget about this company. Or, file a complaint with Visa and get a refund for deceptive trade practices.

Don't you play the original part of the game ??? I do not play PT and admittedly haven't tried YET. As I am too engrossed in the game right now to even try YET. The cornerstone game is a game so addicting that I haven't stopped playing it since early 2001. My point is do not give up on the game that easily

Alex Murray · 02-03-2019, 05:18 PM

Hey Ignats75,

Sorry to hear the AI did the reset glitch on your team. The Monday promotion/relegation tends to be the time that happens the most and the devs have been alerted to the issue becoming a glitch that happens. I'll add you to my list i'm compiling for "reset teams".

In regards to the purchases, those will never be wiped from your account. Any cards that you can't find on your active or reserve rosters will be on your inactive cards roster as a deactivated card. To get to your inactive roster go to your roster management page and in the upper right hand there should be a button that says "manage inactive cards". You will find any potentially missing cards there.

I know that won't replace the hours of time spent arranging the team and making it all set up to sim but any money you invest will not be lost. In regards to the AI making changes, you could double check and make sure that in your PT settings page the options in the bottom right are all set to you making changes. So the reserve roster changes aren't set to AI. You can check with the attachment to make sure your settings match. I've found that if you make yourself the sole changer of any part of your team that seems to nuke the AI being trigger happy to edit your team for you.

Thanks
Alex

rudel.dietrich · 02-04-2019, 02:38 AM

Does this mean Jesus does not save?

Rosters I mean...

jeffw3000 · 02-04-2019, 11:14 AM

I have noticed a couple of things.

1. I always make sure anytime I make changes, and also right before I quit PT, that I always hit Submit team.
2. If you make changes and hit Submit team, while the game is simulating, sometimes your changes will not be there when you download the new file. I try never to make changes when the game is simulating.

TwinsGuy11 · 02-04-2019, 01:16 PM

I have some empathy, but at the same time investing money is always risky in gsme modes like this. There are always so many problems reported for other games that do a similar thing and it actually surprises me that people continue to do it.

NoOne · 02-04-2019, 02:07 PM

nerd rages are funny...

eldur00 · 02-04-2019, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NoOne

nerd rages are funny...

I think it's more of a money thing than a nerd thing. Or perhaps a bit of both, but people tend to get really agitated when they feel the money they "invested" is not giving a proper return.

KinrossFlyers · 02-05-2019, 12:28 AM

Y'know, I somewhat understand. PT is still new, and we all have little obstacles to figure out. I just tonight sold off Dwight Evans (92) because he was hitting about .220 and not walking much. "Come on!!! Mo********er!!!!" I howled after each game watching his batting sink lower and lower. I'm not going to shoot my screen or ragequit...but I'll be darned if I can figure out why an otherwise good player starts sucking. Maybe the Kershaw I picked up will soothe my battered anger management levels? Maybe not. It's all fun, even when you find out you have to sell Lou Gehrig because he's at the Mendoza line.

UltimateAverageGuy · 02-05-2019, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ignats75

I posted in the Bugs Forum, but I'm going to mention it here. I just invested time AND MONEY on Perfect Team; only to discover that it doesn't even work correctly. I AM PISSED. I spent a whole day learning the system, buying extra cards and preparing for a Monday league Launch. I saved/submitted all my work and left for church. I came back, rre-logged in and discovered that the AI completely wiped out my work and rearranged my roster and lineups.

I said some very unchurch-like things to my computer about OOTP and PT. I guess, I'll write off the extra money as a poor investment and forget about this company. Or, file a complaint with Visa and get a refund for deceptive trade practices.

Oh.

NoOne · 02-05-2019, 02:13 PM

i'll make it personal... i think it's hilarious and embarassing when i get angry about something the ends up being my own doing. even more so if i publicly complain and blame something else totally unrelated. if you can't laugh at yourself and see a stupid mistake, you can't improve or avoid that mistake in the future.

the entire post was hyperbole. frustrations with consumer protections is another matter, entirely, and i fully sympathize and empathize in that regard. i also don't think that applies here. no one has been deceived, manipulated or cheated. just a cursory search of the forums would show that no one else is having this problem, at least in bulk... that would lead to various rational deductions that would preclude the creation of the OP and more likely to explore more fruitful avenues.

Ty Cobb · 02-05-2019, 04:57 PM

Deceptive trade practices? Yeah...I'll believe you've met the burden of proof when I see a JD behind your name.

It's...a...game...

spleen1015 · 02-05-2019, 05:44 PM

Did you lose cards or just lineup changes?

If you think you lost cards, check Manage Cards under the main menu. They are likely just inactive.

stealofhome · 02-06-2019, 05:44 PM

I basically stopped playing Perfect Team after obsessing with it for a little while for a few reasons.

-First, I finally got my real OOTP league started which has been the bulk of my time
-Second, in order to open Perfect Team after playing regular OOTP, I have to close the entire program and re-open it.
-Third, there is no exhaustive card list with skills that I can use to build a team. I have a nearly complete database that I built myself but it's just too much a waste of time to do it for every version of the game.
-Fourth, there were still some bugs with positional ratings increasing that were not allowing me to build the team just the way I wanted.

But I do like the idea that once I log back in, I'll have a ton of perfect points just sitting there waiting for me to spend them.

Matt Arnold · 02-06-2019, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stealofhome

I basically stopped playing Perfect Team after obsessing with it for a little while for a few reasons.

-First, I finally got my real OOTP league started which has been the bulk of my time
-Second, in order to open Perfect Team after playing regular OOTP, I have to close the entire program and re-open it.
-Third, there is no exhaustive card list with skills that I can use to build a team. I have a nearly complete database that I built myself but it's just too much a waste of time to do it for every version of the game.
-Fourth, there were still some bugs with positional ratings increasing that were not allowing me to build the team just the way I wanted.

But I do like the idea that once I log back in, I'll have a ton of perfect points just sitting there waiting for me to spend them.

What do you mean by your 4th point?

stealofhome · 02-07-2019, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

What do you mean by your 4th point?

The same thread from the PT bug forum: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=297580

I built my team with very specific players, using the fielding talent ratings to calculate the possible positional rating, even if they didn't have one initially. I expected that this would require a season or two where the player was learning the position and understand that. However, this guy was taking over 2.5 seasons full of games to maximize and that didn't make much sense to me.

02-03-2019, 03:18 PM	#1
ignats75 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 279	I'm Already Done With Perfect Team I posted in the Bugs Forum, but I'm going to mention it here. I just invested time AND MONEY on Perfect Team; only to discover that it doesn't even work correctly. I AM PISSED. I spent a whole day learning the system, buying extra cards and preparing for a Monday league Launch. I saved/submitted all my work and left for church. I came back, rre-logged in and discovered that the AI completely wiped out my work and rearranged my roster and lineups. I said some very unchurch-like things to my computer about OOTP and PT. I guess, I'll write off the extra money as a poor investment and forget about this company. Or, file a complaint with Visa and get a refund for deceptive trade practices.

02-03-2019, 05:18 PM	#7
Alex Murray All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 500	Hey Ignats75, Sorry to hear the AI did the reset glitch on your team. The Monday promotion/relegation tends to be the time that happens the most and the devs have been alerted to the issue becoming a glitch that happens. I'll add you to my list i'm compiling for "reset teams". In regards to the purchases, those will never be wiped from your account. Any cards that you can't find on your active or reserve rosters will be on your inactive cards roster as a deactivated card. To get to your inactive roster go to your roster management page and in the upper right hand there should be a button that says "manage inactive cards". You will find any potentially missing cards there. I know that won't replace the hours of time spent arranging the team and making it all set up to sim but any money you invest will not be lost. In regards to the AI making changes, you could double check and make sure that in your PT settings page the options in the bottom right are all set to you making changes. So the reserve roster changes aren't set to AI. You can check with the attachment to make sure your settings match. I've found that if you make yourself the sole changer of any part of your team that seems to nuke the AI being trigger happy to edit your team for you. Thanks Alex Attached Images __________________

02-05-2019, 12:28 AM	#13
KinrossFlyers Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: About 1 1/2 hours from Kinross, home of Kinchloe Air Force base. Posts: 25	Y'know, I somewhat understand. PT is still new, and we all have little obstacles to figure out. I just tonight sold off Dwight Evans (92) because he was hitting about .220 and not walking much. "Come on!!! Mo********er!!!!" I howled after each game watching his batting sink lower and lower. I'm not going to shoot my screen or ragequit...but I'll be darned if I can figure out why an otherwise good player starts sucking. Maybe the Kershaw I picked up will soothe my battered anger management levels? Maybe not. It's all fun, even when you find out you have to sell Lou Gehrig because he's at the Mendoza line. __________________ “What has mood to do with it? You fight when the necessity arises—no matter the mood! Mood's a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It's not for fighting.” —Gurney Halleck

02-05-2019, 04:57 PM	#16
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 3,948 Blog Entries: 66	Deceptive trade practices? Yeah...I'll believe you've met the burden of proof when I see a JD behind your name. It's...a...game... __________________ “What’s the most you ever lost on a coin toss?” “Everyone is an atheist until Templars begin marching in the rain.” Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.—Thomas Sowell "Alinsky works for me now."

02-06-2019, 05:44 PM	#18
stealofhome Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,282 Blog Entries: 1	I basically stopped playing Perfect Team after obsessing with it for a little while for a few reasons. -First, I finally got my real OOTP league started which has been the bulk of my time -Second, in order to open Perfect Team after playing regular OOTP, I have to close the entire program and re-open it. -Third, there is no exhaustive card list with skills that I can use to build a team. I have a nearly complete database that I built myself but it's just too much a waste of time to do it for every version of the game. -Fourth, there were still some bugs with positional ratings increasing that were not allowing me to build the team just the way I wanted. But I do like the idea that once I log back in, I'll have a ton of perfect points just sitting there waiting for me to spend them. __________________ OOTP Resources \| - \| Stealofhome's Fictional Feeder Leagues and MLB Extravaganza

02-03-2019, 04:44 PM	#4
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	i haven't bothered with it, but #2 sounds like a likely culprit relative to context. if you do things that are in cache and not saved yet, it's lost when you close the program or browser etc. since there's a interent connection invovled, this cache can be lost, easily for all sorts of reasons.

02-04-2019, 02:38 AM	#8
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Does this mean Jesus does not save? Rosters I mean...

02-04-2019, 11:14 AM	#9
jeffw3000 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 296	I have noticed a couple of things. 1. I always make sure anytime I make changes, and also right before I quit PT, that I always hit Submit team. 2. If you make changes and hit Submit team, while the game is simulating, sometimes your changes will not be there when you download the new file. I try never to make changes when the game is simulating.

02-04-2019, 01:16 PM	#10
TwinsGuy11 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 213	I have some empathy, but at the same time investing money is always risky in gsme modes like this. There are always so many problems reported for other games that do a similar thing and it actually surprises me that people continue to do it.

02-04-2019, 02:07 PM	#11
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	nerd rages are funny...

02-05-2019, 02:13 PM	#15
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	i'll make it personal... i think it's hilarious and embarassing when i get angry about something the ends up being my own doing. even more so if i publicly complain and blame something else totally unrelated. if you can't laugh at yourself and see a stupid mistake, you can't improve or avoid that mistake in the future. the entire post was hyperbole. frustrations with consumer protections is another matter, entirely, and i fully sympathize and empathize in that regard. i also don't think that applies here. no one has been deceived, manipulated or cheated. just a cursory search of the forums would show that no one else is having this problem, at least in bulk... that would lead to various rational deductions that would preclude the creation of the OP and more likely to explore more fruitful avenues.

02-05-2019, 05:44 PM	#17
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,951	Did you lose cards or just lineup changes? If you think you lost cards, check Manage Cards under the main menu. They are likely just inactive.