Who's your DONKEY?

[trevwilson]

Sadly, I'm not talking about Pronk. I get that people are mostly hush hush on who the best value steals are, but we've all dropped some serious PP on someone we just knew was going to rake. Who is the player for you in PT that seems like should be a beast from his ratings but just consistently disappoints?

This isn't an amazing example, but Bobby Grich is my guy on my original OL team. I transitioned that team after about ten seasons and had to scramble to get compliant. Grich was one of the first pieces I added thinking that he would be an immediate upgrade over Dave Cash.

Turns out, Bobby was not exactly Cash Money.

[Magus978]

For me, it's Jim Gilliam and it's not close. As great as his defense is, you'd think with his hitting ratings he could back it up by hitting .280. Until he proves to me otherwise, he's been my biggest waste of points.

[Cheesehead1964]

Originally Posted by Magus978

For me, it's Jim Gilliam and it's not close. As great as his defense is, you'd think with his hitting ratings he could back it up by hitting .280. Until he proves to me otherwise, he's been my biggest waste of points.

Career .285 hitter for me over 10 seasons. All Star in Gold and Diamond. He's been okay for me I guess...

[Argonaut]

Gold Frank Thomas has been a bit of a dud for me at DH. His ratings suggest he's a solid all-around hitter but he regularly sits around 100 OPS+. Maybe not enough lefty pitchers out there.

[Caedus]

Gravvy Cravath. Don’t remember the year but the higher diamond one.

Had maybe one season over .900 OPS in Silver/Bronze. Usually low .800s or mid-to-high .700s. He’s useless defensively and on the base paths but he had pretty good offensive ratings for the lower levels. I ended up making a small profit on him when I sold him but he wasn’t better than other DHs I’ve used like Jim Bottomley and Don Mattingly (75 not 79).

[Cheesehead1964]

Perfect Walter Johnson was a disaster! (Just kidding. Like I could afford one!)

Special Edition Eddie Plank diamond card was pretty underwhelming...

[Magus978]

Originally Posted by Cheesehead1964

Career .285 hitter for me over 10 seasons. All Star in Gold and Diamond. He's been okay for me I guess...

3rd season with me, hitting .235 in 1,034 at bats.

.267 this season. Seems like that's the case with every highly recommended player I go and sign. Might have to change my signing policies to sign people nobody suggests

[<Pion>]

Originally Posted by Cheesehead1964

Career .285 hitter for me over 10 seasons. All Star in Gold and Diamond. He's been okay for me I guess...

I'm with you on Gilliam. He keeps hitting for me leaving me scratching my head wondering why he keeps hitting.

[Goliathus]

Originally Posted by Magus978

Might have to change my signing policies to sign people nobody suggests

I suggested that to you few weeks ago. Time to really pull that trigger.

[BigRed75]

88 OVR Johnny Bench hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire. I've had him for 10 full seasons and he's come close to the stats from the season the card is based on in only two of the them. And by "close" I mean within .200 OPS of the actual mark (.932). Heck, I've never even had him come within 45 points of his career OPS mark (.817, the best he's done for me is .769).

I know that 1970 was the best offensive season of his career, but this card is providing me with neither offense nor defense. No Gold Gloves, only one Silver Slugger and that was in his first season with me which was a half season, so it doesn't really count (also his only All-Star appearance).

[CrazyWR]

Spent 55k on 99 Duke Snyder...he failed to post even a 100 OPS+ for like 6 years before I finally gave up and cut my losses.

[Whoofe]

pretty much every player I try at DH

[HFBL]

Originally Posted by CrazyWR

Spent 55k on 99 Duke Snyder...he failed to post even a 100 OPS+ for like 6 years before I finally gave up and cut my losses.

Duke had 5 out of 7 seasons with over 100+ OPS, but for the most part I play him as a backup.

[HFBL]

For me it has to be 100 Johnny Bench. I have had him for 3 seasons, averages are .243, .211 and .208, with HRs 5, 6 and 5, OPS .730, .642 and .652.

100 Christy Mathewson had a good first season for me going 9-0 with 3.24 ERA. However, the last two years going 6-4 and 4-6 with ERA of 4.34 and 4.83, respectively.

How does one player have a few great seasons, then all of a sudden fail to produce?

[justpatrick]

Mel Ott 84 was a huge disappointment for me. He couldn´t hit in silver or even bronze, and I still don´t get that. I know he´s not for the upper levels, but for sure he looks like he´d be productive in the lower leagues, but not the case for me.

[Cheesehead1964]

Originally Posted by justpatrick

Mel Ott 84 was a huge disappointment for me. He couldn´t hit in silver or even bronze, and I still don´t get that. I know he´s not for the upper levels, but for sure he looks like he´d be productive in the lower leagues, but not the case for me.

Same era and type of big hitter I expected big things - lower diamond Al Simmons. Big disappointment for me...

[CrazyWR]

Originally Posted by HFBL

Duke had 5 out of 7 seasons with over 100+ OPS, but for the most part I play him as a backup.

to be fair, my park limits gap and power, although it inflates avg. I even tried platooning him just vR, but nothing worked out. I was so excited when I got him too

[justpatrick]

Originally Posted by Cheesehead1964

Same era and type of big hitter I expected big things - lower diamond Al Simmons. Big disappointment for me...

That´s thing that I hate about this game. I know, it´s basically an all-star league no matter what level, but it´s Mel Ott and Al Simmons for crying out loud!