Question about basestealing

markprior22 · 07-29-2013, 06:49 PM

If you try to steal a base and the runner doesn't go, does your chance of success diminish if you try to steal again during that at bat or is it just a new "roll of the dice" so to speak?

Fyrestorm3 · 07-29-2013, 07:02 PM

New roll of the dice. Your runner simply didn't think he could get a good enough jump (the opposing pitcher's Hold rating and your runner's Stealing ability factor into this).

The Game · 07-29-2013, 08:15 PM

I use Run & Hit 1 pitch mode. I have good success with fast runners so so with slow to mid level runners.

r0nster · 07-30-2013, 11:29 AM

I do exactly what The Game said... this way you dont have to deal with the stealing issues of not going... they ALWAYS go when doing the run and hit mode. Plus I love to double steal too when I get the chance.

Fyrestorm3 · 07-30-2013, 12:25 PM

The reason I don't always use Run & Hit is that I don't like forcing the player to run. The only evidence I have is anecdotal, but I feel like I see a higher success rate when I let the player go on his own (barring the times he simply doesn't go).

r0nster · 07-30-2013, 12:40 PM

I hear ya on that storm.. perhaps I be too agreesive on the basepaths LOL. Darn where is Ty Cobb when I need him. naw wont have spikes up

LOL

The Game · 07-30-2013, 03:34 PM

I tend to have a really fast 10 (1-10) leadoff guy but my leadoff hitter on my old team leads the league all time in SB at 442 (6sns) and so far through 6 games my leadoff hitter is 5 for 5 in SB and my #2 hitter is 4 for 5. The 1st C opposing us was a 5 arm the 2nd an 8 arm. I just find it annoying to switch between 1 pitch and pitch-by-pitch just to steal bases. Run & Hit also works great to avoid GIDP and moving the runner from 1st to 3rd on a duck snort.

r0nster · 07-30-2013, 03:37 PM

I use one pitch mode ... I have a player Billy Hamilton in whom I got lucky trading for him in season 2013 off the Reds. He is my speed demon. I got 2 seasons in a row of 100 steals and so far 4 seasons with 90 or more SB in a row and I am in 2018 now but he was injured for 5 weeks so that streak is in jepardy. with 6 weeks left. The best he did was 119 I think. Was trying hard to get him to break the 130 at the time. My top 2 in the lineup can run. I am picky as to who I have in my lineup and rarely sub my players.

r0nster · 07-30-2013, 03:38 PM

If a player in a slump I do the Sparky Anderson trick Hit and run more often.

07-29-2013, 06:49 PM	#1
markprior22 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, illinois Posts: 1,225 Blog Entries: 2	Question about basestealing If you try to steal a base and the runner doesn't go, does your chance of success diminish if you try to steal again during that at bat or is it just a new "roll of the dice" so to speak?

07-29-2013, 08:15 PM	#3
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,807	I use Run & Hit 1 pitch mode. I have good success with fast runners so so with slow to mid level runners. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

07-30-2013, 03:34 PM	#7
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,807	I tend to have a really fast 10 (1-10) leadoff guy but my leadoff hitter on my old team leads the league all time in SB at 442 (6sns) and so far through 6 games my leadoff hitter is 5 for 5 in SB and my #2 hitter is 4 for 5. The 1st C opposing us was a 5 arm the 2nd an 8 arm. I just find it annoying to switch between 1 pitch and pitch-by-pitch just to steal bases. Run & Hit also works great to avoid GIDP and moving the runner from 1st to 3rd on a duck snort. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

07-29-2013, 07:02 PM	#2
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	New roll of the dice. Your runner simply didn't think he could get a good enough jump (the opposing pitcher's Hold rating and your runner's Stealing ability factor into this).

07-30-2013, 11:29 AM	#4
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	I do exactly what The Game said... this way you dont have to deal with the stealing issues of not going... they ALWAYS go when doing the run and hit mode. Plus I love to double steal too when I get the chance.

07-30-2013, 12:25 PM	#5
Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	The reason I don't always use Run & Hit is that I don't like forcing the player to run. The only evidence I have is anecdotal, but I feel like I see a higher success rate when I let the player go on his own (barring the times he simply doesn't go).

07-30-2013, 12:40 PM	#6
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	I hear ya on that storm.. perhaps I be too agreesive on the basepaths LOL. Darn where is Ty Cobb when I need him. naw wont have spikes up LOL

07-30-2013, 03:37 PM	#8
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	I use one pitch mode ... I have a player Billy Hamilton in whom I got lucky trading for him in season 2013 off the Reds. He is my speed demon. I got 2 seasons in a row of 100 steals and so far 4 seasons with 90 or more SB in a row and I am in 2018 now but he was injured for 5 weeks so that streak is in jepardy. with 6 weeks left. The best he did was 119 I think. Was trying hard to get him to break the 130 at the time. My top 2 in the lineup can run. I am picky as to who I have in my lineup and rarely sub my players.

07-30-2013, 03:38 PM	#9
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,002	If a player in a slump I do the Sparky Anderson trick Hit and run more often.