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Old 01-14-2020, 12:35 AM   #341
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Yeah, makes sense to me. I do the same.

In non title situations, do you make them only fight other fighters in their region as they are starting out or do you let them fight guys from every where?

I keep going back and forth on that. Sometimes, I just want them to fight only those from the same region until they reach a certain ranking and then move them to a "World" group where they fight other fighters from around the world.

Then at other times, usually to have more available fighters, I let them fight people from everywhere right from the beginning. Which do you do?
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:29 PM   #342
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If you go back to the start of my AU, I think I explain that because steamships were the only real means of long distance travel between continents in the era in question I generally keep regions separate, but fighters do travel and tour other countries as they did in real life back then.

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Old 01-14-2020, 06:31 PM   #343
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Great point. Do you do much auto scheduling to build up careers until they are ready for "bigger fights" or do you choose each fight?
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:22 PM   #344
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Clipped from The Kalgoorlie Sun January 1900...Boxing before his home folk at the Timaru Boxing Club Danny Ruenalf the Maori glove artist, faced Pyrmont's veteran prize fighter, Jim Quigley. The latter won in the tenth round, having severely gruelled his opponent with hooks, crosses and uppercuts...A syndicate of cagey promoters and well-heeled fight enthusiasts organize a nationwide tournament to find a marketable opponent for Australasian champion Des Quinlan after No.1 contender Billy McColl is forced to back out after injuring his hand in his fight with South Afrika's Mike Williams....Famed trainer Larry Foley writes in the Sun that he sees the two best men at that moment to be Bill Lang of Melbourne and Pat McIntyre the Ballarat mitt-slinger....He adds that three other likely fellows have allowed themselves to be put out of consideration by recent losses to chaps he expected them to beat....Jim Barry the Chicago-based heavyweight impresses the mob with his handling of clever Jimmy Henry...In an interview with the Sun he gives a little of his background, born in a village near the Ojibway Nation of Saugeen to a native mother and Irish railroad worker father, moving to the United States at fifteen to work on a cattle ranch before taking up the fight game in the John L Sullivan Touring Company...
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Old 01-28-2020, 04:34 PM   #345
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Taken from evening edition of The New York World January 27, 1900....The Jim Jeffries - Sam McVea fight at Frisco was stopped in the 11th round due to a cut on McVea's face from an accidental clash of heads in round six....Referee Alex Greggains repeatedly interfered with the action and called the halt with three seconds left in a round McVea was clearly winning....Greggains scored six rounds for Jeffries and four for McVea....American champion Fireman Jim Flynn used his usual bully tactics to wear down Oakland Al Brown despite the admonitions of Referee Harry Stuart....By the eleventh round Brown was fighting strictly to survive to the last bell and probably should have had his corner throw in the towel...Al Kaufman has given out a statement saying that he will fight Canada's Johnny Jackson as soon as his injured arm which at present is in a plaster cast gets better....Kaufman says the injury was caused in his fight last month with Jeffries....At the Pelican Club Joe Willis boxes Gus Ruhlin ten rounds while in the two preliminary bouts Phil Schlossberg meets Dave Sawyer and Jim Savage boxes Jack Rowan....All arrangements have been completed for the world championship battle between title-holder Jack Johnson and British Empire champ Tommy Burns with the match set for one month from now at Hazard's Pavilion in Los Angeles...Both men have been in camp for more than a week and expect to be in top form by the day of the fight....Johnson has been made a prohibitive favourite in Harry Corbett's betting pools....
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Old 01-31-2020, 06:40 PM   #346
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Clipped from today's Hamilton Spectator and Montreal Advocate...Two of the biggest names in Canadian boxing defend their respective title belts tomorrow....A third Canuck battler Tommy Burns is winding up his heavy work at Hank Griffin's gym outside Los Angeles aided by trainers Bob Armstrong and Jim Daley....
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From the pages of The Montreal Star"...Sam Langford totally dominated Joe Jeannette in their 12 round contest with the Halifax fighter punishing the local man so badly the referee had to step in and stop the fight and award the victory to Langford....Big upset at Coaltown as Bob Day the "Battling Bobby" scored a technical knockout of Johnny Jackson to win the Canadian heavyweight championship....Referee Hugh MacNeil stopped the fight after Jackson's 4th trip to the canvas....Jackson was unable to overcome Day's advantages in size and strength as he was constantly bulled around the ring, leaned upon against the ropes and slammed with heavy blows to the body, some of which appeared to land below the equator....Later in the dressing room the former champ was unable to explain his poor performance but said he would ask his manager to arrange a rematch...This would seem to upset the promoter's plans to have Jackson fight American Al Kaufman in two weeks time...On the undercard Art Beaudoin stopped Kid Kelly of Philadelphia in five fast rounds...At Calgary George McRay beat fellow Albertan Clonie McFadden on points....In Halifax at the old forum, Joe Dundee (the former Vincenzo Ferrante of Worcester, Mass) knocked out Jack Stewart of Toronto in the seventh of ten rounds and James 'Sailor Burke' kayoed American import Dan Wallace in four....At Winnipeg's Orpheum Danny Whitebear sent veteran Fred Morris into retirement with a clean knockout in round seven....At Detroit Marvin Hart won in convincing fashion over Canada's Ross Delaney with a ten round decision and Kid Williams of New Brunswick KO'd Frank Craig in four in their 10 round semi windup....
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Pictorial supplement from The Los Angeles Herald....February 1900....Jack Johnson (36-5-3) and Tommy Burns (26-0-0) met at The Alhambra Hotel with their respective managers and agents to finalize financial details and select a referee...Johnson appeared in fine condition and claimed to weigh around 208 pounds with less than a week remaining in camp while Burns had trained down to 174 and looked ready to step in the ring....Promoter McCarey had raised a purse of $25,000 to be split 65% to the winner and 35% to the loser but at the last minute Johnson demanded the whole purse should go to the winner with a portion of the gate used to pay the loser's expenses....Burns objected saying he'd been guaranteed $10,000 and a slice of the gate receipts...After an hour of wrangling and numerous interruptions both parties agreed to the original purse split and a fifty-fifty division of 70% of the gate receipts, along with a side wager of $2,500....When it came time to select the referee ten names were rejected before both sides agreed to Eddie Graney....When Graney was called into the room he ordered the men to avoid kidney punches, punch if one hand was free but break clean on his command and refrain from excessive holding...Both men would be allowed soft bandages but would need to have them examined in the ring before six ounce gloves would be laced up in each man's corner....
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Clipping from the Los Angeles Herald Ed Graney had Johnson ahead 10 rounds to two when the fight was stopped....Burns took round one and most gave him round three on aggression but the rest was all Jack....The champion out-punched his challenger almost 3 to 1....From about round four on, Jack was warned three times for excessive holding....A quote from the Herald's reporter, "...In round two Burns landed to the body but when he tried to follow it with a swinging left Johnson got it under his arm. There it was held and Jack came across with his right. Burns protested, and as he was doing so, Johnson drove his right again to the face..."...Tommy's face was a mess with one cheek puffed up, blood from his mouth and nose and his left eye shut and swollen...Halfway through round thirteen a police constable seated ringside shouted at Referee Graney to get his attention and ordered him to stop the fight....Burns, still on his feet, objected to the interference and demanded to be allowed to continue, but the referee's decision was final....
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Snipped from the March 1900 issue of Mitt Slingers Magazine...Sam Langford's decisive win over Joe Jeannette shoots him to the top of the rankings following Tommy Burns losing effort at the world title....Jack Johnson claims an undisclosed injury supposedly incurred in his fight with Burns and states to the press and IBU officials he will be unable to defend his title for at least three months....Johnson's press agent suggests to the newspapers that in the meantime an eliminator between Burns and Langford should be fought to appease the fans....In London Sid Russell and trainer Duke Mullins buy first class passage to America on the steamship Nordica with a contract from New York promoter Bert Woodhall in their grip....Back in Australia champion Des Quinlan has retreated to his farm, sitting on his title until some club can produce an opponent worth his time and a fat purse...Shortly before the magazine went to the printers came news by transatlantic wire of Raymond Berenger's victory over Bjarni Thorsen for the latter's EBU title belt....
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From the sporting pages of The Glasgow Herald of Scotland....Excitement in British boxing circles following the sensational one-round knockout of Italy's Roberto Damiani by country lad William "Iron" Hague at Liverpool Athletic Hall...The surprising win overshadowed the main event between former EBU champ John L Gardner and James "Gunner" Moir with the buzz of conversation carrying over throughout the hall raising the ire of Gardner...After his less than exciting win over Moir, the Hackney idol directed his manager to arrange a fight with the upstart Hague...In the semi windup to the Berenger-Thorsen fight Eire's Petty Officer Matty Curran came from behind to put away England's Jack Scales a 3 to 1 favourite with the British bookies....At the National Sporting Club Scotland's Sandy MacNab broke both hands on the skull of the 'Danish Ironman' Battling Johnsson before being put to sleep in the fifth round of their return go prompting many punters to write off the gallant Scot....At Paisley young Derek Beattie formerly of the Seaforth Highlanders put on a thrilling display of the pugilistic arts in a six round decision over the Irish veteran George Gardiner, the latter having enough trickery remaining in his kit to avoid a knockout....Following his victory two weeks ago over Jack Palmer, Joe Beckett has signed articles to fight John L Gardner in what is hoped to be an elimination for the British heavyweight title...
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Excerpt from The Chicago Daily News May 1900...Despite the liberal use of head and elbows by Fireman Jim Flynn, for which he received numerous cautions, Joe Jeannette captured the American Boxing Association heavyweight title belt in front of a fairly hostile mob in Chicago....The Pueblo fighter came into the ring in excellent condition tipping the Fairbanks at 188½, giving away almost ten pounds to the finely trained Hoboken lad and five inches in reach....Just one month earlier Jeannette had repeated his win over former world champion James Jeffries, cementing his claim to a fight with Flynn...At Spokane, WA Jack Dillon "The Hoosier Bearcat" copped the nod over local prospect Thad Spencer after six...In Montreal on the undercard of the Langford-Burns fight at Mount Royal Arena Art Beaudoin licked George McRay of Alberta in ten rounds and Halifax's James 'Sailor Burke' won the six round decision over Bill Rickard...At Toronto's Mutual Street Arena Bob Day retained his Canadian championship with a seventh round kayo of Ross Delaney while in the semi windup Winnipeg's "Black Cyclone" Charlie Robinson forced referee Joe Francis to stop his fight with Chummy Banks with the latter unable to defend himself....At London's National Sporting Club Joe Beckett was stopped on cuts by John L Gardner in the last minute of their ten round elimination for the vacant British heavyweight title...In his New York debut Australia's Sid Russell stopped Jack Ashton in nine rounds improving his record to 24-1-0 with 17 KOs...
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Wire service report published around the world...
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Clipping from The Melbourne Age May 31, 1900....Attracted by a fat purse, Des Quinlan meets the rising unbeaten South Afrikan star Jimmy Carr in a ten round bout at Perth, Western Australia...After a slow feeling-out round, both men get to work and start dishing out heavy punishment but Quinlan proves to be the bigger puncher and quickly forces Carr into a defensive posture...A blow to the neck in the third round visibly shakes the Afrikaner and a right hand to the ear in the next round drops him like a stone....At the Gaiety Athletic Hall Jim Quigley earns a close decision over Jack Whittaker that many at ringside thought should've been a draw...In a feature bout the American pugilist Jack Lester dispatches local pug Reg O'Kelly in five rounds (6)....On the same card Jack Howard KO's fellow Sydney-sider Kelly Mansfield in five mauling rounds and Dick Kernick ekes out a points win in four rounds over Soldier O'Grady...At Hobart A.C. on Tasmania, big Bill Turner met veteran Con Riordan for six rounds and stops him in four...At Ballarat Athletic Hall, Bill Lang knocks out Owen Sullivan in the 6th round of a ten round go...On the undercard Peter Kling draws with George Gunther (8); Colin Bell and Jerry Jerome draw after six; and Jim Scanlon takes a four round nod over young Dave Smith...
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Latest rankings released by the North American Boxing Federation and published in Mitt Slingers Magazine following on Sam Langford's abdication of their title to assume the British Empire Championship....The IBU asks promoters to submit bids for a fight to fill the vacancy with an eye towards the top two contenders meeting....Managers for some of the lower rated challengers demand an elimination tournament be held to battle for the belt, a notion backed by a few of the smaller clubs...Joe Jeannette declines to be involved, preferring to defend his American championship instead...Jim Jeffries, tiring of the small purses his Pacific Northwest title have earned him, steps up in newspaper interviews to declare his willingness to fight the NABF's number one contender Tommy Burns, pointing out that between them they have beaten most of the others in the lists....Burns, coming off two straight losses, sees an opportunity to make another big payday with the aging ex-boilermaker and sends word to the NABF's championship committee he is more than willing to meet the burly Californian....In a side note Australia's Ned Ryan (23-8-0 [15]) has landed in Canada and issued a defi to Canadian champ Bob Day (21-4-1 [14]) to fight him for side stakes of $500 put up by a Sydney syndicate...
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Excerpt from The Winnipeg Free Press June 1900...While Tommy Burns works himself into fighting shape at a popular local gym preparing to meet big Jim Jeffries, Sam Langford is said to be pressing his case with the IBU for a title fight with world champ Jack Johnson. He and manager Joe Woodman travel to IBU headquarters in Brussels to meet with the championship committee....In an open-air ring at Sohmer Parc in Montreal Canadian heavyweight king Bob Day makes quick work of Australia's Ned Ryan after a feeling out in round one...Day uses his size and strength to great advantage on the ropes, battering the visitor with thudding blows to the ribs and kidneys...Ryan tries to return fire but is unable to penetrate the bigger man's crossed arm defence and soon finds himself on his backside staring up groggily as Referee Joe Popp raises the tree-trunk like arm of Day...Crowds pack the Winnipeg Orpheum to catch a glimpse of mighty Sam McVea the "Oxnard Ox" and watch in stunned silence as he makes hash of one-time top contender Marvin Hart whose chief attribute now is his ability to assimilate punishment....At Quebec City the pride of Brooklyn Jim Stewart ventures from his home-base to trade punches with Calgary's George McRay and ends up on the losing end of the verdict, his raw power negated by the speed and boxing skills of McRay....Jeff Clarke the "Joplin Ghost" adds another win to his record with a commanding points win over an elusive Charlie Fraser in front of the latter's hometown crowd at Hamilton Arena...Lou Silverman, matchmaker of the Winnipeg Orpheum, pairs local talent Charlie Robinson with Quebec's Big Jos Montferrand for his next show....In overseas news retired pugilists Hank Griffin and Young Peter Jackson sail to Australia to join the Griffo Boxing Academy, contracted to work at Sydney and Melbourne training young fighters in the modern American in-fighting techniques, later to be joined by comrade Joe Kennedy....
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Clipped from the July issue of Mitt Slingers Magazine....While Sam Langford and his manager consult with the IBU championship committee, Jack Johnson announces his intention to defend his title against No.3 ranked Joe Jeannette provided a club or promoter can be found to put up a significant purse and a good-sized venue....California Promoter Tom Dowling offers the Pacific Athletic Club and a $10,000 purse, while Harry Kline and Marty Muldoon combine to proffer a $12,500 purse and use of the Marathon A.C. in Chicago, Johnson's home base....The larger clubs seem to be waiting for a decision from the IBU though Johnson is within his rights to pick any challenger from the top ten after defending against the IBU's No.1 man...At the same time Tommy Burns and Jim Jeffries have signed articles to meet at Detroit's Cadillac A.C. under the aegis of Jake Mazer for a purse of $3,000 to be split 65% to the winner and 35% to the loser with 55% of the gate to be split 50-50 and the NABF title belt on the line....In Los Angeles Denver Ed Martin has signed a contract with "Sunny Jim" Coffroth for three fights against as yet unnamed opponents....Australia's Sid Russell and his manager Duke Mullins have agreed to fight the winner of the Burns-Jeffries fight provided it can be arranged before the winter....Langford, cooling his heels in a Brussels hotel agrees to defend his Empire title at London's National Sporting Club against the best man the NSC can provide...
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From the July 10, 1900 morning edition of The Windsor Daily Record...Tommy Burns ekes out a decision over a flabby Jim Jeffries and captures the vacant North American Boxing Federation heavyweight title belt...Despite a closed left eye, bloody mouth and fractured rib, Jeffries comes within seconds of knocking out Burns in the last of the twelve scheduled rounds with a desperation left hook...On the same evening, Toronto's Johnny Jackson forces a stoppage of Fireman Jim Flynn thanks to a bloody gash and a squeamish police constable seated ringside at Motor City Arena...Flynn, his face and chest covered with gore, protests the call in the third stanza....Across the water in Ontario, Sam McVea knocks out Canadian champ Bob Day in seven at Toronto Commonwealth Arena...At Winnipeg's Orpheum Dave Mills outpoints Clonie McFadden over ten rounds and local hero Charlie Robinson stops Quebec's Joe Montferrand in six of ten....In the first of three contracted bouts Denver Ed Martin boxes to a draw over ten rounds with Vallejo's Joe Willis, prompting a rematch....Fighting before a white-tie crowd at London's National Sporting Club on Canada's birthday Sam Langford took seven rounds to demonstrate his superiority over England's John L Gardner, stopping him with under two minutes remaining to retain his Empire title....Langford then signed to meet the winner of the scheduled EBU championship contest between Raymond Berenger and P.O. Matty Curran...Eight days later at the Palais Grande in Paris Curran upsets the odds with a tenth round kayo of Berenger to take the coveted European title strap and the winner's end of ₣10,000....Back in London Wm Iron Hague drops a decision to Denmark's Battling Johnsson while in Paris on the same evening Norway's Bjarni Thorsen takes the referee's verdict over American Battling Jim Johnson after ten slow rounds...Marvin Hart retires after getting knocked out by CC Smith at Chicago....
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Great stuff Cap--always following this thread. Something has been itching at me for a while and that is who are the actual fighters you are using for the images of Johnny Jackson? I have shown the 3 below and was hoping you could tell me who the were in the non-alternate universe. Thanks
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Great stuff Cap--always following this thread. Something has been itching at me for a while and that is who are the actual fighters you are using for the images of Johnny Jackson? I have shown the 3 below and was hoping you could tell me who the were in the non-alternate universe. Thanks
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