Fighter Database Candidates?

[btown32]

Hello all. While perusing through boxrec and some light heavyweights that fought up in the heavyweight division, I ran across some more fighters that are not in the official database that I believe could deserve some consideration.

If anybody has any of these files created by others or homemade willing to be shared, I would appreciate it. I usually try to make my own if I cannot find them but I am always appreciative of other people's creations.

1. Clyde Chastain

Global ID 34990
sex male
birthdate 1909-11-01
death date 1988-07-13 (78)
division light heavyweight
height 5' 8" / 173cm
country USA
residence Dallas, Texas, USA
birth place Dallas, Texas, USA
birth name Clarence Clyde Chastain
won 50 (KO 13) + lost 23 (KO 9) + drawn 11 = 84
rounds boxed 706
Newspaper Decisions won 10 : lost 1 : drawn 1
rounds boxed 108
Total Bouts 96 KO% 13.54

L KO2 vs Junior Munsell - rated 5 - someone's created file.
W TKO9 vs Tony Marullo - rated 5 - someone's created file.
W 8 vs Wilson Dunn
W TKO6 vs Jack Van Noy - rated 2 by DB Team.
L KO6 vs Joe Knight
L TKO5 vs Al Gainer
L SD10 vs Wilson Dunn
W 10 vs Al Stillman
W 10 vs Maxie Rosenbloom
W 10 vs Wilson Dunn
D 10 vs Maxie Rosenbloom
L 10 vs Ben Foord - rated 4 by DB Team.
W 10 vs Ben Foord
L 12 vs Ambrose Palmer - rated 8 by DB Team.
W 12 vs Tiger Jack Payne - rated 7 by DB Team.
W 10 vs Frankie Wine - rated 2 by DB Team.
L KO4 vs Gorilla Jones - rated 11 by DB Team.
W NWS8 vs Duke Tramel

2. Matt Raymond

Global ID 87243
sex male
birthdate 1913-00-00
division light heavyweight
country USA
residence Mount Carmel, Pennsylvania, USA
birth name Raymond Constantine Matulewicz
won 27 (KO 13) + lost 2 (KO 0) + drawn 1 = 30
rounds boxed 206 KO% 43.33

W UD12 vs Hardrock Harden - rated 6 by Bear.
W 10 vs Hardrock Harden
W 10 vs Nick Fiorentino - rated 2 by DB Team.
L 10 vs Gus Dorazio - rated 4 by DB Team.
D 10 vs Al Ettore - rated 4 by DB Team.
W TKO4 vs Billy Ketchell - rated 1 by someone's created file.
W 10 vs Gus Dorazio

3. Jack Gibbons

Global ID 13937
sex male
birthdate 1912-01-01
death date 1999-02-01 (87)
division light heavyweight
stance orthodox
height 5' 8" / 173cm
country USA
residence Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
birth place Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
birth name Michael John Gibbons
won 56 (KO 20) + lost 5 (KO 0) + drawn 1 = 62
rounds boxed 407
Newspaper Decisions won 13 : lost : drawn
rounds boxed 76
Total Bouts 75 KO% 26.67

Rated 7 - by Christopher S. Mund, but I feel it deserves a look for the official DB,

4. Jimmy Gibbons

Global ID 85286
sex male
birthdate 1909-05-04
death date 1992-10-21 (83)
division heavyweight
stance orthodox
height 6' 1½" / 187cm
country USA
residence Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
birth place Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
birth name Russell Anderson
won 18 (KO 13) + lost 2 (KO 2) + drawn 0 = 21
rounds boxed 69
Newspaper Decisions won 13 : lost : drawn
rounds boxed 80
Total Bouts 34 KO% 38.24

Not a large sample size to go off of but 2 wins vs. Mike Mandell who is in the DB.

W NWS6 vs Mike Mandell - rated 7 by DB Team.
W 5 vs Mike Mandell
L TKO2 vs Art Lasky - rated 6 by DB Team.

5. Wilson Dunn

Global ID 28191
sex male
division light heavyweight
stance orthodox
alias Wild Cat / Dynamite
country USA
residence Ponca City, Oklahoma, USA
won 84 (KO 41) + lost 31 (KO 11) + drawn 12 = 131
rounds boxed 861
Newspaper Decisions won 1 : lost 2 : drawn
rounds boxed 20
Total Bouts 134 KO% 30.6

6. Two Middleweights:

Jack Kilbourne 43874
Duke Tramel 53103

Thank you.

[PWillisTheMan]

Do you have your own rankings for these guys? I'd be happy to rate them but I'm not sure if you need them or are just asking for them to be included in the data base.

[btown32]

I usually try to do ratings for fighters that I find when searching for more heavyweights, especially fighters from the 1890-1910 era, that have decent records and have fought known and database rated fighters. Like I mentioned in my post, I am always happy to get other people's viewpoints on ratings and appreciate all the people on the forum who happen to donate their valuable time by creating fighter files for us all to share. If you have the desire and time to created your own ratings, I would surely download them to my database, but you don't have to if you could spend your time more wisely. And btw, if you have any other HW/CW files that you have created but haven't posted, I would love to be able to download them and incorporate them into my database and universe that I am currently running. Thanks for you time and effort.

[PWillisTheMan]

Originally Posted by btown32

I usually try to do ratings for fighters that I find when searching for more heavyweights, especially fighters from the 1890-1910 era, that have decent records and have fought known and database rated fighters. Like I mentioned in my post, I am always happy to get other people's viewpoints on ratings and appreciate all the people on the forum who happen to donate their valuable time by creating fighter files for us all to share. If you have the desire and time to created your own ratings, I would surely download them to my database, but you don't have to if you could spend your time more wisely. And btw, if you have any other HW/CW files that you have created but haven't posted, I would love to be able to download them and incorporate them into my database and universe that I am currently running. Thanks for you time and effort.

Isn't it amazing when you wonder onto an old timer with a record like 27-17 and see that he beat several HOF fighters? I post all my stuff in the Misc thread. I'd also be interested in any of your ratings.

[McClearyMauler]

Really would like to see him added to the database. He was a champion. Please put him in.