Some Home Brewed Ratings

sepia warrior · 11-18-2010, 11:01 PM

Here are some fighters I've rated that I have not seen rated elsewhere. (If they have been rated, then I simply missed them among all the fighters members of this board have rated.) Researching and rating fighters, along with scrounging around for photos, is what I really enjoy. So here goes.

Murray_Andrew.tbdx3

Rolon_Derrick_MW_Retired_Prime.tbdx3

Chirino_Fermin_SMW_Retired_Prime.tbdx3

I'll post the photos I have for Andrew Murray and Derrick Rolon shortly; there is a photo and alternate already posted in the forum for Fermin Chirino.

Crimson · 11-20-2010, 09:44 PM

Thanks for sharing your ratings.

I understand what you mean about "scrounging around for photos". I spend more time doing that and researching fighters than I do actually playing the game.

With the internet (and YouTube) it is so easy to get lost in the world of boxing history. There isn't enough time in the day!

sepia warrior · 11-21-2010, 12:32 AM

Denny "Deadly" Dalton - MW (3) 1997-
Cleveland Denny - LW (3) 1976-1980
Steve "Lion Heart" Frank - MW (0) 1986-1997

Dalton_Denny.tbdx3
Denny_Cleveland.tbdx3
Frank_Steve.tbdx3

sepia warrior · 11-21-2010, 01:20 PM

I have an old rating of Norberto Sabater that I've posted as Crimson has asked for a rating from John Dewey. It's not really playtested so it may need some tweaking. I also can't find a picture of Sabater.

Norberto Sabater - MW (3) 1979-1986

Sabater_Norberto.tbdx3

John Dewey · 11-21-2010, 01:31 PM

Welcome to the world of rating fighters for TBCB. I almost never play the game myself except to test a rating. Everybody has their niche I guess. Norberto Sabater already exists in the data pool as you probably already discovered. Therefore, i won't be rating him.

sepia warrior · 11-22-2010, 09:15 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I need to keep up with all the updates to the database that Ice Tea makes almost daily. I have a master database and another which I only use for the TBCB3 updates. The update database is current, that's really the case with the master database.

sepia warrior · 11-22-2010, 09:19 PM

Donald Allison - JWW(3) 1988-1995
Cesar Barrow - LW(0) 1955-1965

Allison_Donald.tbdx3
Barrow_Cesar.tbdx3

There's a photo of Allison posted in the 1980-1989 Section of the photo section of this forum. I'm still looking for one of Barrow.

sepia warrior · 11-26-2010, 08:40 AM

John Collins - MW (5) - 1980-1986
Clarence "Duke" Harris - WW (5) - 1953-1958

Collins_John.tbdx3
Harris_Clarence.tbdx3

There are photos of Collins and Harris in the photo section of this forum.

sepia warrior · 11-28-2010, 05:31 PM

Troy Darrell - MW (5) 1981-1991

Darrell_Troy.tbdx3

I posted a photo of Darrell in the 1980-1989 thread in the Photo sub-forum

sepia warrior · 12-01-2010, 05:04 PM

Paulo Sacoman - MW(2) 1951-1961
Paulo DeJesus - WW(5) 1955-1959
Francisco De Jesus - JMW(3) 1980-1984
Milton Rosa - MW(3) 1955-1958

Sacoman_Paulo.tbdx3

DeJesus_Paulo.tbdx3

DeJesus_Francisco.tbdx3

Rosa_Milton.tbdx3

They are not play tested so some tweaking and adjustments may be needed. A photo of Sacoman is posted in the 1950-1959 thread in the Photo sub-forum.

sepia warrior · 12-01-2010, 06:45 PM

Mario Soares - LHW(3) 1997-1998

He's been rated as a Cruiserweight but most of his fights were at Light Heavyweight as he won the Brazilian LHW title in his 3rd fight and defended it 3 times before failing to capture the vacant Latino LHW title when he fought Peter Venancio in 2005. The rating may need some tweaking as it was tested only against Venancio in the game.

Soares_Mario.tbdx3

Still looking for a photo of him.

sepia warrior · 12-01-2010, 08:01 PM

Jose Chirino - JMW(3) 1965-1975
Jorge Jose Fernandez - WW(8) 1953-1973

Chirino_Jose.tbdx3

Fernandez_Andres.tbdx

There are photographs for each fighter in TCB Photos sub-forum.

sepia warrior · 12-02-2010, 01:15 AM

Anthony Andrews - MW(3) 1982-2000

Andrews is rated as a BW, WW, and MW as he was the Guyanese champion in each of those divisions during his career. He also was the SMW champion as he defeated fellow Guyanese Wayne Harris for the WBA Fedelatin crown. His MW rating as adjusted by the game as his SMW rating.

Andrews_Anthony.tbdx3

Two photos of Andrews are posted in the 1980-1989 thread in the Photos subforum.

sepia warrior · 12-02-2010, 01:35 AM

Alfie "Bullit" Andrews - SMW(0) 1988-1994

My re-rating. Interesting fighter to rate as he fought only low-level competition, never had any bout scheduled for more than 6 six rounds, won only 3 of 28 fights and was TKO'd 12 times. He was never knocked out. Although the proficiency rating has no effect in this version of Title Bout, I set him at 6 to indicate the upper limit of rounds he was likely to fight.

Andrews_Alfie.tbdx3

sepia warrior · 12-02-2010, 01:50 AM

Leon "Hurry Up" Moore - BW(7) 2001 -

Moore_Leon.tbdx3

His photo is posted in the 2000 and up thread in the Photos sub-forum.

bear · 12-02-2010, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepia warrior

Jose Chirino - JMW(3) 1965-1975
Jorge Jose Fernandez - WW(8) 1953-1973

Attachment 201766

Attachment 201767

There are photographs for each fighter in TCB Photos sub-forum.

You uploaded the file for Andres Fernandez rather than Jorge Jose

sepia warrior · 12-02-2010, 10:41 AM

Sorry. I guess I should keep my reading glasses on when composing posts. Anyway, here is Jorge rated as both a WW and MW.

Fernandez_JorgeJose.tbdx3

sepia warrior · 12-02-2010, 12:55 PM

Lonnie "Honey Bee" Beasley - JMW(5) - 1985-1999

First Name is sometimes spelled Lonny, I've used the BoxRec spelling. I'm still testing whether the JMW rating can be used for MW fights with the game adjustment for weight class adjustments.

Beasley_Lonnie.tbdx3

sepia warrior · 12-02-2010, 04:56 PM

John Dewey rated the newer one, who was a JMW preliminary fighter from 1991 - 1995 fighting either 4 or 6 round bouts. I have renamed him by adding JMW in parentheses after his name to keep his career record distinct from the other McAloon. The older one was also a gritty New York fighter who campaigned mostly as a welterweight from 1966 to 1981 fighting former champions such as Emile Griffith, Billy Backus and soon to be champion John Stracey. He also fought top contenders such as Jean Josselin, Roger Menetrey, Tony Licata and Dario Hidalgo. He was stopped only 4 times - all by TKO - with two coming at the tail end of his career. I looked to see if they were related and so far have come up blank.

Danny McAloon - WW(4) 1966-1981
Danny McAloon - JMW(0) 1991-1995

McAloon_Danny.tbdx3

McAloon(JMW)_Danny.tbdx3

There is a photo of the old McAloon in the 1960-1969 thread in the Photo sub-forum.

sepia warrior · 12-02-2010, 06:49 PM

Kevin Moley - MW(3) 1981-1993

Moley_Kevin.tbdx3

His photo was just posted in the 1980-1989 thread in the Photo sub-forum.

11-18-2010, 11:01 PM	#1
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Some Home Brewed Ratings Here are some fighters I've rated that I have not seen rated elsewhere. (If they have been rated, then I simply missed them among all the fighters members of this board have rated.) Researching and rating fighters, along with scrounging around for photos, is what I really enjoy. So here goes. Murray_Andrew.tbdx3 Rolon_Derrick_MW_Retired_Prime.tbdx3 Chirino_Fermin_SMW_Retired_Prime.tbdx3 I'll post the photos I have for Andrew Murray and Derrick Rolon shortly; there is a photo and alternate already posted in the forum for Fermin Chirino.

11-21-2010, 12:32 AM	#3
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Some Fighters From Guyana Denny "Deadly" Dalton - MW (3) 1997- Cleveland Denny - LW (3) 1976-1980 Steve "Lion Heart" Frank - MW (0) 1986-1997 Dalton_Denny.tbdx3 Denny_Cleveland.tbdx3 Frank_Steve.tbdx3

11-21-2010, 01:20 PM	#4
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Norberto Sabater I have an old rating of Norberto Sabater that I've posted as Crimson has asked for a rating from John Dewey. It's not really playtested so it may need some tweaking. I also can't find a picture of Sabater. Norberto Sabater - MW (3) 1979-1986 Sabater_Norberto.tbdx3

11-21-2010, 01:31 PM	#5
John Dewey Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,207	Sabater Welcome to the world of rating fighters for TBCB. I almost never play the game myself except to test a rating. Everybody has their niche I guess. Norberto Sabater already exists in the data pool as you probably already discovered. Therefore, i won't be rating him.

11-22-2010, 09:15 PM	#6
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Sabater Thanks for the heads up. I need to keep up with all the updates to the database that Ice Tea makes almost daily. I have a master database and another which I only use for the TBCB3 updates. The update database is current, that's really the case with the master database.

11-20-2010, 09:44 PM	#2
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996	Thanks for sharing your ratings. I understand what you mean about "scrounging around for photos". I spend more time doing that and researching fighters than I do actually playing the game. With the internet (and YouTube) it is so easy to get lost in the world of boxing history. There isn't enough time in the day!

11-22-2010, 09:19 PM	#7
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	More Fighters From Guyana Donald Allison - JWW(3) 1988-1995 Cesar Barrow - LW(0) 1955-1965 Allison_Donald.tbdx3 Barrow_Cesar.tbdx3 There's a photo of Allison posted in the 1980-1989 Section of the photo section of this forum. I'm still looking for one of Barrow. Last edited by sepia warrior; 11-23-2010 at 06:54 AM.

11-26-2010, 08:40 AM	#8
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Some Fighters From The US John Collins - MW (5) - 1980-1986 Clarence "Duke" Harris - WW (5) - 1953-1958 Collins_John.tbdx3 Harris_Clarence.tbdx3 There are photos of Collins and Harris in the photo section of this forum. Last edited by sepia warrior; 11-26-2010 at 08:42 AM.

11-28-2010, 05:31 PM	#9
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Troy Darrell Troy Darrell - MW (5) 1981-1991 Darrell_Troy.tbdx3 I posted a photo of Darrell in the 1980-1989 thread in the Photo sub-forum Last edited by sepia warrior; 12-01-2010 at 06:21 PM.

12-01-2010, 05:04 PM	#10
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Some Brazilian Fighters Paulo Sacoman - MW(2) 1951-1961 Paulo DeJesus - WW(5) 1955-1959 Francisco De Jesus - JMW(3) 1980-1984 Milton Rosa - MW(3) 1955-1958 Sacoman_Paulo.tbdx3 DeJesus_Paulo.tbdx3 DeJesus_Francisco.tbdx3 Rosa_Milton.tbdx3 They are not play tested so some tweaking and adjustments may be needed. A photo of Sacoman is posted in the 1950-1959 thread in the Photo sub-forum. Last edited by sepia warrior; 12-02-2010 at 09:24 PM.

12-01-2010, 06:45 PM	#11
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Another Brazilian Fighter Mario Soares - LHW(3) 1997-1998 He's been rated as a Cruiserweight but most of his fights were at Light Heavyweight as he won the Brazilian LHW title in his 3rd fight and defended it 3 times before failing to capture the vacant Latino LHW title when he fought Peter Venancio in 2005. The rating may need some tweaking as it was tested only against Venancio in the game. Soares_Mario.tbdx3 Still looking for a photo of him.

12-01-2010, 08:01 PM	#12
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Some Argentinian Fighters Jose Chirino - JMW(3) 1965-1975 Jorge Jose Fernandez - WW(8) 1953-1973 Chirino_Jose.tbdx3 Fernandez_Andres.tbdx There are photographs for each fighter in TCB Photos sub-forum.

12-02-2010, 01:15 AM	#13
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Another Fighter From Guyana Anthony Andrews - MW(3) 1982-2000 Andrews is rated as a BW, WW, and MW as he was the Guyanese champion in each of those divisions during his career. He also was the SMW champion as he defeated fellow Guyanese Wayne Harris for the WBA Fedelatin crown. His MW rating as adjusted by the game as his SMW rating. Andrews_Anthony.tbdx3 Two photos of Andrews are posted in the 1980-1989 thread in the Photos subforum. Last edited by sepia warrior; 12-02-2010 at 07:18 AM.

12-02-2010, 01:35 AM	#14
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	A British Tomato Can Alfie "Bullit" Andrews - SMW(0) 1988-1994 My re-rating. Interesting fighter to rate as he fought only low-level competition, never had any bout scheduled for more than 6 six rounds, won only 3 of 28 fights and was TKO'd 12 times. He was never knocked out. Although the proficiency rating has no effect in this version of Title Bout, I set him at 6 to indicate the upper limit of rounds he was likely to fight. Andrews_Alfie.tbdx3

12-02-2010, 01:50 AM	#15
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	A Current Guyanese Fighter Leon "Hurry Up" Moore - BW(7) 2001 - Moore_Leon.tbdx3 His photo is posted in the 2000 and up thread in the Photos sub-forum.

12-02-2010, 10:41 AM	#17
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Whoops Here's Jorge Jose Fernandez Sorry. I guess I should keep my reading glasses on when composing posts. Anyway, here is Jorge rated as both a WW and MW. Fernandez_JorgeJose.tbdx3

12-02-2010, 12:55 PM	#18
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Lonnie Beasley Lonnie "Honey Bee" Beasley - JMW(5) - 1985-1999 First Name is sometimes spelled Lonny, I've used the BoxRec spelling. I'm still testing whether the JMW rating can be used for MW fights with the game adjustment for weight class adjustments. Beasley_Lonnie.tbdx3

12-02-2010, 04:56 PM	#19
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Danny McAloon - The Old One and the Newer One John Dewey rated the newer one, who was a JMW preliminary fighter from 1991 - 1995 fighting either 4 or 6 round bouts. I have renamed him by adding JMW in parentheses after his name to keep his career record distinct from the other McAloon. The older one was also a gritty New York fighter who campaigned mostly as a welterweight from 1966 to 1981 fighting former champions such as Emile Griffith, Billy Backus and soon to be champion John Stracey. He also fought top contenders such as Jean Josselin, Roger Menetrey, Tony Licata and Dario Hidalgo. He was stopped only 4 times - all by TKO - with two coming at the tail end of his career. I looked to see if they were related and so far have come up blank. Danny McAloon - WW(4) 1966-1981 Danny McAloon - JMW(0) 1991-1995 McAloon_Danny.tbdx3 McAloon(JMW)_Danny.tbdx3 There is a photo of the old McAloon in the 1960-1969 thread in the Photo sub-forum.

12-02-2010, 06:49 PM	#20
sepia warrior Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: United States Posts: 452	Kevin Moley Kevin Moley - MW(3) 1981-1993 Moley_Kevin.tbdx3 His photo was just posted in the 1980-1989 thread in the Photo sub-forum.