Dominican Rookie League Issue

Situational_Lefty · 08-02-2017, 03:10 PM

I am playing the standard MLB setup and I am noticing a lot of recently drafted players being assigned to their team's Dominican Rookie League team. That seems like that would not be happening in real life. Generally a player would be assigned to a Rookie team in Florida or Arizona, or even a short season A ball team to start off with. In my mind, the Dominican Leagues are for your younger, international prospects, not kids drafted out of a US high school or college. Is anyone else seeing the same thing in their league.

homerj · 08-02-2017, 05:19 PM

Yes, and it's fixable.

Issue is in real life, if you're draft eligible you don't qualify for the DSL. But there is no such limitation in the game.

The fix is to make a new region in the world_default.xml file that's all nations, minus the US and Canada. Then you reload it into your league and in the DSL settings, make sure it's set to that region and then under the roster options go "no foreigners". That option will ban everyone in the list that's not in their region...in this case the US and Canada.

Lukas Berger · 08-03-2017, 07:31 AM

Or for a quicker, dirtier workaround, you can just set the DSL's region in-game to Latin America or The Caribbean. Then you won't be able to have a few of the nations that have guys that play there irl like Holland send players there, but it will keep out the Americans and allow all the Dominican, Venezuelan etc guys.

TomVeal · 08-03-2017, 08:46 AM

It would be nice if OOTP came with a "draft-ineligible" region. Adding it on one's own is quite a task for the average user.

MikeS21 · 08-03-2017, 09:37 AM

I will need to try Lukas's suggestion. Usually if a player is acquired via the draft, or a prospect is acquired via a trade, they are assigned to the "lowest minor league team." And many times the DSL affiliates are considered the "lowest minor league team."

While it would be nice to designate which of your minor league teams to assign players to, Lukas has given us an decent work-around.

eternal · 08-03-2017, 09:40 AM

Does this change (either homerj or Lukas') cause any noticeable AI irregularities with the standard MLB start?

WIUPIKE · 08-03-2017, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eternal

Does this change (either homerj or Lukas') cause any noticeable AI irregularities with the standard MLB start?

I havent seen any of note in from doing what Lukas said in the last two versions.

Mat · 08-03-2017, 11:03 AM

thx for the advice. always hated that!

Lukas Berger · 08-03-2017, 12:32 PM

I'll have to test it more and talk to Markus/Matt about it in case there might be any unintended consequences, but we might just set things up with the workaround in the quickstart next year to begin with.

Situational_Lefty · 08-03-2017, 04:45 PM

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I think I might try the change the region in game and see if that works. I would try the option of making a new region in the world_default.xml file, but that makes my brain hurt. I tend to find ways to break things if I mess with them too much.

Situational_Lefty · 08-03-2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Or for a quicker, dirtier workaround, you can just set the DSL's region in-game to Latin America or The Caribbean. Then you won't be able to have a few of the nations that have guys that play there irl like Holland send players there, but it will keep out the Americans and allow all the Dominican, Venezuelan etc guys.

Would you select Caribbean or Latin America when changing the region. I am not entirely sure which countries are considered in what regions in OOTP.

Lukas Berger · 08-03-2017, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Situational_Lefty

Would you select Caribbean or Latin America when changing the region. I am not entirely sure which countries are considered in what regions in OOTP.

I'm not exactly sure either but probably Latin America.

homerj · 08-03-2017, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

I'm not exactly sure either but probably Latin America.

I have a current version of the world_default.xml file with a new region that's everyone who's DSL qualified(everyone minus US, Canada, and the random territories) if it would be helpful.

EDIT: added patch file

Situational_Lefty · 08-03-2017, 09:27 PM

Thank you for uploading that file. However, I am not entirely sure what to do with it. I am not to experienced on adjusting the actual files of the game, I normally just customize settings in-game.

oki96 · 08-04-2017, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Or for a quicker, dirtier workaround, you can just set the DSL's region in-game to Latin America or The Caribbean. Then you won't be able to have a few of the nations that have guys that play there irl like Holland send players there, but it will keep out the Americans and allow all the Dominican, Venezuelan etc guys.

Do I have to "limit foreigners" under the rules page as well or is editing the league region under leagues & team page enough?

Also is there a way to limit the number of foreigners in a team? I know that the *** only allow 4 foreigners on the active roster.

Lukas Berger · 08-04-2017, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oki96

Do I have to "limit foreigners" under the rules page as well or is editing the league region under leagues & team page enough?

Also is there a way to limit the number of foreigners in a team? I know that the *** only allow 4 foreigners on the active roster.

There is a league setting to limit foreigners and another on how many to limit and yeah, you'd need to do that as well for this to work.

homerj · 08-04-2017, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Situational_Lefty

Thank you for uploading that file. However, I am not entirely sure what to do with it. I am not to experienced on adjusting the actual files of the game, I normally just customize settings in-game.

Sometimes I forget most people are on Windows and don't have things like the diff and patch utilities. You can take everything between and including the <REGION> tags, remove the leading ">" character and just paste that directly into the .xml file.

PSUColonel · 12-20-2017, 03:32 PM

Ok, so for this to work, you need to select the "Latin America" region, and then also not allow foreigners?

Is this what I am to gather here?

Lukas Berger · 12-20-2017, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Ok, so for this to work, you need to select the "Latin America" region, and then also not allow foreigners?

Is this what I am to gather here?

Yes, that's pretty much the cliff notes version

andyhdz · 12-21-2017, 12:28 PM

Someone mentioned (sorry forgot who) that your international complex serves as a defacto foreign rookie league so having the DSL is a bit redundant. Others after the 1st year have just deleted the league after moving all of the prospects to other farm teams. I don't miss it and it's a lot better to handle the minor league system without it. The Astros had two DSL teams!

-Andy

08-02-2017, 03:10 PM	#1
Situational_Lefty Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 265	Dominican Rookie League Issue I am playing the standard MLB setup and I am noticing a lot of recently drafted players being assigned to their team's Dominican Rookie League team. That seems like that would not be happening in real life. Generally a player would be assigned to a Rookie team in Florida or Arizona, or even a short season A ball team to start off with. In my mind, the Dominican Leagues are for your younger, international prospects, not kids drafted out of a US high school or college. Is anyone else seeing the same thing in their league.

08-02-2017, 05:19 PM	#2
homerj Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 183	Yes, and it's fixable. Issue is in real life, if you're draft eligible you don't qualify for the DSL. But there is no such limitation in the game. The fix is to make a new region in the world_default.xml file that's all nations, minus the US and Canada. Then you reload it into your league and in the DSL settings, make sure it's set to that region and then under the roster options go "no foreigners". That option will ban everyone in the list that's not in their region...in this case the US and Canada. Last edited by homerj; 08-02-2017 at 05:22 PM.

08-03-2017, 07:31 AM	#3
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 19,858	Or for a quicker, dirtier workaround, you can just set the DSL's region in-game to Latin America or The Caribbean. Then you won't be able to have a few of the nations that have guys that play there irl like Holland send players there, but it will keep out the Americans and allow all the Dominican, Venezuelan etc guys. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Order Out of the Park Baseball 25! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

08-03-2017, 12:32 PM	#9
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 19,858	I'll have to test it more and talk to Markus/Matt about it in case there might be any unintended consequences, but we might just set things up with the workaround in the quickstart next year to begin with. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Order Out of the Park Baseball 25! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

08-03-2017, 08:46 AM	#4
TomVeal All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spanaway, Washington Posts: 1,181	It would be nice if OOTP came with a "draft-ineligible" region. Adding it on one's own is quite a task for the average user.

08-03-2017, 09:37 AM	#5
MikeS21 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 267	I will need to try Lukas's suggestion. Usually if a player is acquired via the draft, or a prospect is acquired via a trade, they are assigned to the "lowest minor league team." And many times the DSL affiliates are considered the "lowest minor league team." While it would be nice to designate which of your minor league teams to assign players to, Lukas has given us an decent work-around.

08-03-2017, 09:40 AM	#6
eternal Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 57	Does this change (either homerj or Lukas') cause any noticeable AI irregularities with the standard MLB start?

08-03-2017, 11:03 AM	#8
Mat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 651	thx for the advice. always hated that!

08-03-2017, 04:45 PM	#10
Situational_Lefty Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 265	Thanks for all of the suggestions. I think I might try the change the region in game and see if that works. I would try the option of making a new region in the world_default.xml file, but that makes my brain hurt. I tend to find ways to break things if I mess with them too much.

08-03-2017, 09:27 PM	#14
Situational_Lefty Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 265	Thank you for uploading that file. However, I am not entirely sure what to do with it. I am not to experienced on adjusting the actual files of the game, I normally just customize settings in-game.

12-20-2017, 03:32 PM	#18
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,987 Blog Entries: 37	Ok, so for this to work, you need to select the "Latin America" region, and then also not allow foreigners? Is this what I am to gather here?

12-21-2017, 12:28 PM	#20
andyhdz All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fresno, CA by way of Texas Posts: 1,754	Someone mentioned (sorry forgot who) that your international complex serves as a defacto foreign rookie league so having the DSL is a bit redundant. Others after the 1st year have just deleted the league after moving all of the prospects to other farm teams. I don't miss it and it's a lot better to handle the minor league system without it. The Astros had two DSL teams! -Andy