Billy C challenge

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9/11
Thurs:
Jesus Cuellar vs Juan Manuel Lopez
Luis Ortiz vs Lateef Kayode

Anthony Joshua vs Konstanin Airich
Ivana Habazin vs Cecilia Braekhus
Anthony Crolla vs Gamaiel Diaz
Scott Quigg vs Stephane Jamoye
Alfredo Angulo vs James De la Rosa
Leo Santa Cruz vs Manuel Roman
Miguel Vazquez vs Mickey Bey
John Molina vs Humberto Soto
Floyd Mayweather vs Marcos Maidana


In stock database
Jesus Cuellar FW slugger 5
Juan Manuel Lopez FW slugger 8
Lateef Kayode CW slugger 5
Luis Ortiz HW either 4
Konstanin Airich HW slugger 2
Ivana Habazin WW slugger 4
Cecilia Braekhus WW either 11
Gamaiel Diaz FW either 3
Scott Quigg JFW slugger 5
Stephane Jamoye BW boxer 3
Alfredo Angulo JMW slugger 7
Leo Santa Cruz JFW slugger 8
Miguel Vazquez LW boxer 8
Mickey Bey JLW boxer 4
John Molina LW slugger 5
Humberto Soto LW either 8
Floyd Mayweather WW boxer 13
Marcos Maidana WW slugger 7


created in Mods
Anthony Joshua HW either 6 created by PWillis
Anthony Crolla LW boxer 3 unknown source
James De la Rosa JMW slugger 4 created by John Dewey
Manuel Roman BW slugger 1 created by Jackyle

need to create

Things to consider:
Lateef Kayode to HW
Stephane Jamoye to JFW
Mickey Bey to LW
Humberto Soto to post prime

In a bi tof a rush to get this done. Two of the bouts are on a card this evening and I;d like to finish before Billy C's free boxing webcast tonight

[Jackyle]

My opinions are:

Kayode punching power would need to come down a bit, and I think his punching and counterpunching numbers perhaps up a tiny bit because he in theory is fighting slower opponents and I don't think his hand speed will be slower.

Soto post prime for sure.

For Bey, his knockdown number may need to go down and perhaps recovery. Defense may be better than a 0 too, he is pretty slick.

Jamoye looks fine to me.

[Jackyle]

Gamaliel Diaz is post prime too in my opinion.

[bear]

Ready to run the bouts after I eat lunch. Took Jackyle's suggestions and applied them to the fighters.

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Here are the results

Juan Manuel Lopez over Jesus Cuellar
Luis Ortiz vs Lateef Kayode
Anthony Joshua over Konstanin Airich
Cecilia Braekhus over Ivana Habazin
Anthony Crolla over Gamaiel Diaz
Scott Quigg over Stephane Jamoye
Alfredo Angulo over James De la Rosa
Leo Santa Cruz over Manuel Roman
Miguel Vazquez over Mickey Bey
Humberto Soto over John Molina
Floyd Mayweather over Marcos Maidana

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9/19

Ryan Davis vs Hector Camacho Jr
Frank Galarza vs Jonathan Batista
Kid Galahad vs Adeilson dos Santos
Jeff Lacy vs Rayco Saunders
Bradley Skeete vs Leandro Pinto
Carlos Cuadras vs Jose Salgado
Richar Abril vs Edis Tatli
Omar Narvaez vs Felipe Orucuta
Chip Perez vs Agustine Mauras
Karl Dargan vs Angino Perez
Javier Mendoza vs Ramon Hirales
Orlando Salido vs Terdsak Kokietgym
Cosme Rivera vs Konstantin Ponomarvev
George Groves vs Chris Rebrasse
Garrett Wilson vs Thabiso Mchunu


In stock database
Hector Camacho Jr JMW either 4
Kid Galahad JFW boxer 6
Jeff Lacy SMW slugger 7
Jose Salgado JBW slugger 4
Richar Abril LW either 6
Omar Narvaez JBW boxer 9
Felipe Orucuta JBW boxer 5
Ramon Hirales JFLY slugger 4
Orlando Salido FW slugger 8
Terdsak Kokietgym FW slugger 5
Cosme Rivera WW either 5
George Groves SMW either 7
Chris Rebrasse SMW boxer 4
Garrett Wilson CW either 3
Thabiso Mchunu CW either 6

created in Mods
Ryan Davis MW slugger 1 created by John Dewey
Frank Galarza JMW slugger 1 unknown source
Angino Perez JWW boxer 3 created by bear
Karl Dargan JWW boxer 4 created by John Dewey
Javier Mendoza JFLY slugger 3 created by bear
Konstantin Ponomarev WW boxer 5 created by bear
Jonathan Batista WW boxer 2 created by bear
Rayco Saunders LHW boxer 2 created by John Dewey
Bradley Skeete WW boxer 2 created by Jackyle
Carlos Cuadras JBW slugger 5 created by PWillis
Edis Tatli LW boxer 2 created by PWillis
Joseph Chip Perez JLW boxer 3 created by John Dewey, tweaked by bear to a 1

need to create
Adeilson dos Santos
Leandro Pinto
Agustine Mauras

Things to consider:
Is Hector Camacho Jr past prime, he's 35
Is Jeff Lacy past prime, hasn't looked good recently? Even at post Saunders shouldn't be more than a set ip for him.
Is Cosme Rivera past prime?
Anything else?

[Jackyle]

I agree with all Bear, all

Hector Camacho Jr
Jeff Lacy
Saunders is Post prime as well
Cosme Rivera
Ryan Davis is post prime as well

Salido and Narvaez are close to that post prime as well.

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Here are the results

Hector Camacho Jr over Ryan Davis
Frank Galarza over Jonathan Batista
Kid Galahad over Adeilson dos Santos
Jeff Lacy over Rayco Saunders
Leandro Pinto over Bradley Skeete
Carlos Cuadras over Jose Salgado
Richar Abril over Edis Tatli
Omar Narvaez over Felipe Orucuta
Agustine Mauras over Joseph Chip Perez
Karl Dargan over Angino Perez
Ramon Hirales over Javier Mendoza
Terdsak Kokietgym over Orlando Salido
Konstantin Ponomarvev over Cosme Rivera
George Groves over Chris Rebrasse
Thabiso Mchunu over Garrett Wilson

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created in Mods
Ryan Davis MW slugger 1 created by John Dewey
Frank Galarza JMW slugger 1 unknown source
Angino Perez JWW boxer 3 created by bear
Karl Dargan JWW boxer 4 created by John Dewey
Javier Mendoza JFLY slugger 3 created by bear
Konstantin Ponomarev WW boxer 5 created by bear
Jonathan Batista WW boxer 2 created by bear
Rayco Saunders LHW boxer 2 created by John Dewey
Bradley Skeete WW boxer 2 created by Jackyle
Carlos Cuadras JBW slugger 5 created by PWillis
Edis Tatli LW boxer 2 created by PWillis
Joseph Chip Perez JLW boxer 3 created by John Dewey, tweaked by bear to a 1

need to create
Adeilson dos Santos
Leandro Pinto
Agustine Mauras

links can be found here

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3753933

and continue for 6 posts

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Here are the last fights for September:

Anselmo Moreno vs Juan Carlos Payano
Arthur Abraham vs Paul Smith
Dierry Jean vs Daniel Ruiz
Artur Beterbiev vs Tavoris Cloud
Omar Chavez vs Ramon Alvarez
Javier Preito vs Ivan Cano
Denis Lebedev vs Pawel Kolodziej
Grigory Drozd vs Krzystof Wlodarczyk


In stock database
Anselmo Moreno BW boxer 7
Arthur Abraham SMW either 8
Paul Smith SMW either 5
Dierry Jean JWW boxer 5
Tavoris Cloud LHW slugger 7
Denis Lebedev CW slugger 7
Pawel Kolodziej CW boxer 5
Grigory Drozd CW either 6
Krzystof Wlodarczyk CW slugger 9

created in Mods
Juan Carlos Payano BW oxer 6 created by PWillis
Daniel Ruiz FW either 3 created by PWillis
Artur Beterbiev LHW slugger 6 created by PWillis
Omar Chavez JWW slugger 5 created by John Dewey
Ivan Cano JWW boxer 1 created by PWillis

need to create
Ramon Alvarez
Javier Preito

Need to consider
Is Cloud past prime? I think so, but would like feedback
Any thing else?

[Jackyle]

Cloud post prime for sure. I think Abraham is as well.

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Here's how the sims played out

Anselmo Moreno over Juan Carlos Payano
Arthur Abraham over Paul Smith
Dierry Jean over Daniel Ruiz
Artur Beterbiev over Tavoris Cloud
Omar Chavez over Ramon Alvarez
Javier Preito over Ivan Cano
Denis Lebedev over Pawel Kolodziej
Krzystof Wlodarczyk over Grigory Drozd

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created in Mods
Juan Carlos Payano BW oxer 6 created by PWillis
Daniel Ruiz FW either 3 created by PWillis
Artur Beterbiev LHW slugger 6 created by PWillis
Omar Chavez JWW slugger 5 created by John Dewey
Ivan Cano JWW boxer 1 created by PWillis

need to create
Ramon Alvarez
Javier Preito


Can be found here and continue for three posts

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3755054

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Here are the first fights for October:

Daniel Lozano vs Jonathan Vidal
Rances Barthelemy vs Fernando Saucedo
Jhonny Gonzalez vs Jorge Arce
Felix Verdejo vs Sergio Villanueva
Vanes Martirosyan vs Willie Nelson
Chad Dawson vs Tommy Karpency
Glen Tapia vs Donates Bondorovas
Celestino Caballero vs Adrian Estrella
Josh Warrington vs Davide Dieli
Tyrone Nurse vs Dave Ryan
Ricky Burns vs Alexander Lepelley



In Stock Database
Rances Barthelemy JLW either 4
Jhonny Gonzalez FW either 7
Jorge Arce JFW slugger 9
Vanes Martirosyan JMW either 6
Willie Nelson JMWeither 4
Chad Dawson LHW either 7
Tommy Karpency LHW either 3
Celestino Caballero JLW either 7
Josh Warrington FW boxer 3
Ricky Burns LW either 6


In Mods
Daniel Lozano FLY either 3 created by Jackyle
Jonathan Vidal JBW slugger 2 created by bear
Fernando Saucedo JLW boxer 3 created by PWillis
Felix Verdejo JLW either 3 created by bear
Glen Tapia JMW slugger 5 created by PWillis
Donates Bondorovas MW either 4 created by Jackyle
Adrian Estrella JLW slugger 4 created by PWillis
Tyrone Nurse JWW boxer 1 created by Bob Bask


Need to create
Sergio Villanueva
Davide Dieli
Dave Ryan
Alexander Lepelley

Need to consider
Jhonny Gonzalez vs Jorge Arce any adjustments to Arce for FW, are they still prime
Is Celestino Caballero post, he's 38
Ib Ricky Burns post?
Anything else?

[Jackyle]

Tough ones Bear.

Burns appears to be Post
Arce is post for sure, But I don't think Gonzalez is yet.
Dawson is post, but should win anyway.
Bondorovas is post too I think
Caballero most likely is but it's hard to put him there because he has not shown it in the ring really.

Verdejo might need a tick up with more experience since the initial rating, and he has shown good power, and ring generalship.
Arce for as tough as he is can't take a punch at Featherweight the way he could at other weights.

Hope that helps a bit.

[bear]

Originally Posted by Jackyle

Tough ones Bear.

Burns appears to be Post
Arce is post for sure, But I don't think Gonzalez is yet.
Dawson is post, but should win anyway.
Bondorovas is post too I think
Caballero most likely is but it's hard to put him there because he has not shown it in the ring really.

Verdejo might need a tick up with more experience since the initial rating, and he has shown good power, and ring generalship.
Arce for as tough as he is can't take a punch at Featherweight the way he could at other weights.

Hope that helps a bit.

I've been thinking about increasing Verdejo's CFs from 6 to 7. My original rating was based on early showings on Solo Boxeo and I agree that he's gotten more experience.

[Jackyle]

I agree, other than Bravo he has not fought anyone, so it's hard to gauge how far along he really is. His defense has looked good, but again hard to say against sub par competition.

[bear]

Here's how the sims played out.

Daniel Lozano over Jonathan Vidal
Rances Barthelemy over Fernando Saucedo
Jorge Arce over Jhonny Gonzalez
Felix Verdejo over Sergio Villanueva
Vanes Martirosyan over Willie Nelson
Chad Dawson over Tommy Karpency
Glen Tapia over Donates Bondorovas
Celestino Caballero over Adrian Estrella
Davide Dieli over Josh Warrington
Tyrone Nurse over Dave Ryan
Ricky Burns over Alexander Lepelley

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In Mods
Daniel Lozano FLY either 3 created by Jackyle
Jonathan Vidal JBW slugger 2 created by bear
Fernando Saucedo JLW boxer 3 created by PWillis
Felix Verdejo JLW either 3 created by bear tweaked by bear to LW either 5
Glen Tapia JMW slugger 5 created by PWillis
Donates Bondorovas MW either 4 created by Jackyle
Adrian Estrella JLW slugger 4 created by PWillis
Tyrone Nurse JWW boxer 1 created by Bob Bask


Need to create
Sergio Villanueva
Davide Dieli
Dave Ryan
Alexander Lepelley

begins here and continues for 7 posts

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post3756740

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No fights in the Challenge this week