Quick spring training question

Gruber_Tagged_Him · 04-10-2019, 04:07 PM

Just as in real life I find the default spring training length to be tediously long. I don't think this is a knee-jerk reaction to having 3 of my pitchers explode in the final week of ST last year, but even if it is...

Is there any downside to adjusting the ST length downwards? It won't affect whether or not players are ready for the regular season, will it? I know that it gives you a smaller sample size for judging battles for the final few spots on a roster but that seems like a minor issue to me.

Matt Arnold · 04-10-2019, 04:30 PM

No, if you have a shorter spring, players will burn off rust a little faster, so that it shouldn't matter overall.

highandoutside · 04-10-2019, 04:59 PM

In previous versions, the shorter the spring training the longer the time off between final ST and Opener, which meant players regained their rust. Not sure if this has been fixed in 20 or not

Curve Ball Dave · 04-10-2019, 07:02 PM

The downside of course of a shorter ST is if you're trying to evaluate borderline players and prospects (not that ST is 100% indicative) you have a smaller sample size to work with. As for injuries, the only way to avoid them is for players to sit and do nothing, if they're gonna happen they're gonna happen.

NoOne · 04-10-2019, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by highandoutside

In previous versions, the shorter the spring training the longer the time off between final ST and Opener, which meant players regained their rust. Not sure if this has been fixed in 20 or not

if they knocked it off, they stay 'sharp' while on an active roster.

assumes no injury or newly signed FA who hasn't played since last year etc...

it would be wise never to use ST stats for anything... unless you have ratings turned off and it's all you got. not just a small sample but reduced competition too.

i don't care if my best SP is 6.00+ERA... he's the best rated, he's the best SP. the volatility is so high, the #'s are useless on their own. if you have a borderline choice, pick they young guy and trade the old guy

slugga27 · 04-10-2019, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NoOne

if they knocked it off, they stay 'sharp' while on an active roster.

assumes no injury or newly signed FA who hasn't played since last year etc...

it would be wise never to use ST stats for anything... unless you have ratings turned off and it's all you got. not just a small sample but reduced competition too.

i don't care if my best SP is 6.00+ERA... he's the best rated, he's the best SP. the volatility is so high, the #'s are useless on their own. if you have a borderline choice, pick they young guy and trade the old guy

That’s why I play stats-only. There’s no reason, IMO, to care about anything in terms of performance if ratings are visible.

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NoOne · 04-10-2019, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by slugga27

That’s why I play stats-only. There’s no reason, IMO, to care about anything in terms of performance if ratings are visible.

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i bet you still don't use ST stats... or at least not enough to replace a vet with a MLB track record. some crap player, sure... might as well roll the dice with something new than playing a known quantity that's horrible.

mwbigg · 09-30-2019, 11:45 AM

A shorter spring training gives your players less time to learn a new position. Doing that requires a certain number of games played in the position, depending on the player.

Less spring training games means less starts a player can get in a new position. That could mean a player might only gain a 40 rating at the position when he could have achieved a 50 with another week of games.

04-10-2019, 04:07 PM	#1
Gruber_Tagged_Him Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 209	Quick spring training question Just as in real life I find the default spring training length to be tediously long. I don't think this is a knee-jerk reaction to having 3 of my pitchers explode in the final week of ST last year, but even if it is... Is there any downside to adjusting the ST length downwards? It won't affect whether or not players are ready for the regular season, will it? I know that it gives you a smaller sample size for judging battles for the final few spots on a roster but that seems like a minor issue to me.

04-10-2019, 07:02 PM	#4
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	The downside of course of a shorter ST is if you're trying to evaluate borderline players and prospects (not that ST is 100% indicative) you have a smaller sample size to work with. As for injuries, the only way to avoid them is for players to sit and do nothing, if they're gonna happen they're gonna happen. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

04-10-2019, 04:30 PM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,117	No, if you have a shorter spring, players will burn off rust a little faster, so that it shouldn't matter overall.

04-10-2019, 04:59 PM	#3
highandoutside All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 631	In previous versions, the shorter the spring training the longer the time off between final ST and Opener, which meant players regained their rust. Not sure if this has been fixed in 20 or not

09-30-2019, 11:45 AM	#8
mwbigg Bat Boy Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 15	A shorter spring training gives your players less time to learn a new position. Doing that requires a certain number of games played in the position, depending on the player. Less spring training games means less starts a player can get in a new position. That could mean a player might only gain a 40 rating at the position when he could have achieved a 50 with another week of games.