NFL 2019 Thread - Page 29

Cobra Mgr · 11-15-2019, 07:40 AM

I do want to say Pouncey deserves 2 to 3 games himself. I don't fault him for getting angry. I don't fault him for fighting. But the kicks to the head went over the line. The rest of his linemen teammates were able to keep their composure, so there is no excuse for him losing his to that extent. I don't have much tolerance for that gangbanger mentality.

Cobra Mgr · 11-15-2019, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

I was too busy watching the Tar Heels disappoint me again. SMH

I watched the better game. But saw Myles Garrett lose it on SC afterward.

And BTW...I'd been meaning to ask this.....Who is the genius in the ACC who decided the best time for Pitt to host a weekday primetime telecast would be the same night the Steelers were playing in primetime on the road?

dkgo · 11-15-2019, 09:54 AM

The ACC football schedule was finalized in January. I guess their crystal ball wasn't working properly.

mirrf · 11-15-2019, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

See you in 2020 Myles Garrett

I had already turned off the game because the game was bad. Legit horrible QB play on both sides. The last touchdown of the game Mayfield thew the ball into a defender's back and the Browns TE caught the ball around said defender. That play was pure hot garbage; Mayfield was rattled and threw a desperation pass to the endzone. I guess you can say Carlson made a good catch, but that's it.

Seeing the helmet hitting this morning..... Myles Garret should be suspended indefinitely. Pouncey should be punished himself, although you can argue he just saw his un-helmeted QB take a hit from a DE.

Rizon · 11-15-2019, 12:03 PM

Hopefully Garrett never sees an NFL field again. He was already a dirty player before he went 5150 in this game. He will never stop being dirty.

And hopefully Pouncey doesn't see the field again until 2021.

The NFL, and all sports, need to do a better job with this level of violence and unsportsmanship.

Rizon · 11-15-2019, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

Hopefully Garrett never sees an NFL field again. He was already a dirty player before he went 5150 in this game. He will never stop being dirty.

And hopefully Pouncey doesn't see the field again until 2021.

The NFL, and all sports, need to do a better job with this level of violence and unsportsmanship.

Watching this again, Ogunjobi should be suspended as well.

Cobra Mgr · 11-15-2019, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizon

Watching this again, Ogunjobi should be suspended as well.

I'll be fine if he was suspended just for being a you-know-what. I understand, if he didn't see what started, how he would enter the fray to back up his teammate. He saw him getting triple teamed & reacted. I could buy that. But of the three guys he could have hit, he didn't choose the 2 300lb behemoths attacking his boy. He shoved the guy with a single digit on his jersey.

That's weak.

Rizon · 11-15-2019, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

I'll be fine if he was suspended just for being a you-know-what. I understand, if he didn't see what started, how he would enter the fray to back up his teammate. He saw him getting triple teamed & reacted. I could buy that. But of the three guys he could have hit, he didn't choose the 2 300lb behemoths attacking his boy. He shoved the guy with a single digit on his jersey.

That's weak.

And choose to shove the guy with his backed turned.

stl jason · 11-15-2019, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirrf

I had already turned off the game because the game was bad. Legit horrible QB play on both sides. The last touchdown of the game Mayfield thew the ball into a defender's back and the Browns TE caught the ball around said defender. That play was pure hot garbage; Mayfield was rattled and threw a desperation pass to the endzone. I guess you can say Carlson made a good catch, but that's it.

Seeing the helmet hitting this morning..... Myles Garret should be suspended indefinitely. Pouncey should be punished himself, although you can argue he just saw his un-helmeted QB take a hit from a DE.

and that's exactly what came down... Garret suspended indefinitely.... Pouncey 3 games; Ogunjobi 1 game

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/us/nf...ded/index.html

Cobra Mgr · 11-15-2019, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stl jason

and that's exactly what came down... Garret suspended indefinitely.... Pouncey 3 games; Ogunjobi 1 game

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/us/nf...ded/index.html

That was quick. I'm sure indefinite is "indefinite". The other penalties are just. NFL may have actually gotten one right for a change.

ukhotstove · 11-15-2019, 02:42 PM

Garrett lost the plot for some reason, Pouncey was lucky his kicking was weak and hit the Cleveland players leg. Ogunjobi was plain gutless, imo Pouncey and Ogunjobi got off light.

Déjà Bru · 11-15-2019, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stl jason

and that's exactly what came down... Garret suspended indefinitely.... Pouncey 3 games; Ogunjobi 1 game

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/us/nf...ded/index.html

That's fine as far as the league goes. Here's my question: What about criminal charges for Garrett? That would turn brutish heads for sure. This was not a fight; this was an assault. If Garrett did the same thing off the field, he'd be in jail.

EDIT: Just Garrett, by the way. He committed assault. The rest of it was a fight.

Cobra Mgr · 11-15-2019, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Garrett lost the plot for some reason, Pouncey was lucky his kicking was weak and hit the Cleveland players leg. Ogunjobi was plain gutless, imo Pouncey and Ogunjobi got off light.

Is "lost the plot" a British thing? Never heard that expression before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

That's fine as far as the league goes. Here's my question: What about criminal charges for Garrett? That would turn brutish heads for sure. This was not a fight; this was an assault. If Garrett did the same thing off the field, he'd be in jail.

EDIT: Just Garrett, by the way. He committed assault. The rest of it was a fight.

Rudolph's agent said "all options are on the table". So stay tuned. I think he won't press charges because Garrett might charge Pouncey for the kicks to the head.

rudel.dietrich · 11-15-2019, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Is "lost the plot" a British thing? Never heard that expression before.

Yes, and I have adopted it and use it often.

mirrf · 11-15-2019, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stl jason

and that's exactly what came down... Garret suspended indefinitely.... Pouncey 3 games; Ogunjobi 1 game

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/us/nf...ded/index.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

That was quick. I'm sure indefinite is "indefinite". The other penalties are just. NFL may have actually gotten one right for a change.

Yea, it means suspended for the rest of the year, with the opportunity of getting reinstated. He'll probably get released, then join up with some team next year looking for quality NFL talent at low, low prices.

ukhotstove · 11-15-2019, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

Is "lost the plot" a British thing? Never heard that expression before..

Not 100% as some say its origin is Australian, also some say it comes from watching a confusing film and losing said plot, some say it may date further to the theatre before films, but yes you hear it a lot over here.

ukhotstove · 11-15-2019, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

That's fine as far as the league goes. Here's my question: What about criminal charges for Garrett? That would turn brutish heads for sure. This was not a fight; this was an assault. If Garrett did the same thing off the field, he'd be in jail.

EDIT: Just Garrett, by the way. He committed assault. The rest of it was a fight.

You see it time and time again in multiple sports where if it was in public they'd be arrested, I know people will say specially sports people "it's the heat of the moment" but it usually is when it's in public.

Ragnar · 11-15-2019, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr

That was quick. I'm sure indefinite is "indefinite". The other penalties are just. NFL may have actually gotten one right for a change.

This actually comes as a surprise to me. Sad. But their track record is so bad with this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

That's fine as far as the league goes. Here's my question: What about criminal charges for Garrett? That would turn brutish heads for sure. This was not a fight; this was an assault. If Garrett did the same thing off the field, he'd be in jail.

EDIT: Just Garrett, by the way. He committed assault. The rest of it was a fight.

Aggravated assault if I'm not mistaken. He won't be charged, but the league needs to set an example with this case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirrf

Yea, it means suspended for the rest of the year, with the opportunity of getting reinstated. He'll probably get released, then join up with some team next year looking for quality NFL talent at low, low prices.

Unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen. If he is allowed to play next season some team will offer him a decent deal because he is a very talented player. So he'll be paid very well. That is unless he is suspended further. If he's suspended for multiple seasons teams might not be so quick to sign him to a lofty deal.

Rizon · 11-15-2019, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirrf

Yea, it means suspended for the rest of the year, with the opportunity of getting reinstated. He'll probably get released, then join up with some team next year looking for quality NFL talent at low, low prices.

He'll 100% be back next year. He'll do some type of program, have his lawyer write a stock sorry letter, then get signed by the Cowboys, Redskins or Raiders.

Then a couple months after he'll do the same ****.

Cobra Mgr · 11-15-2019, 06:46 PM

I'm sure his contract isn't terminated. When he is reinstated, I'm positive the Browns will own his rights.

11-15-2019, 07:40 AM	#561
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,394	I do want to say Pouncey deserves 2 to 3 games himself. I don't fault him for getting angry. I don't fault him for fighting. But the kicks to the head went over the line. The rest of his linemen teammates were able to keep their composure, so there is no excuse for him losing his to that extent. I don't have much tolerance for that gangbanger mentality. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

11-15-2019, 12:03 PM	#565
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,363	Hopefully Garrett never sees an NFL field again. He was already a dirty player before he went 5150 in this game. He will never stop being dirty. And hopefully Pouncey doesn't see the field again until 2021. The NFL, and all sports, need to do a better job with this level of violence and unsportsmanship. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

11-15-2019, 02:42 PM	#571
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Garrett lost the plot for some reason, Pouncey was lucky his kicking was weak and hit the Cleveland players leg. Ogunjobi was plain gutless, imo Pouncey and Ogunjobi got off light. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

11-15-2019, 06:46 PM	#580
Cobra Mgr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Parts unknown Posts: 6,394	I'm sure his contract isn't terminated. When he is reinstated, I'm positive the Browns will own his rights. __________________ If a man is guilty 4 what goes on inside of his mind, then let me get the electric chair 4 all my future crimes. - Prince Batdance June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016

11-15-2019, 09:54 AM	#563
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	The ACC football schedule was finalized in January. I guess their crystal ball wasn't working properly.