Little things I'm curious about, Part 973

old fat bald guy · 10-17-2019, 08:06 AM

What does the "Turn DP" rating cover, and what doesn't it? I'm playing a defensively average third baseman whose Turn DP is in the red numbers, but the 5-4-3s are still happening. Is it just about the pivot between the first out and the second out?

cmaug · 10-17-2019, 08:32 AM

that's how I interpret it - only matters for SS & 2B

koohead · 10-17-2019, 11:41 AM

I interpret it as both the pivot as well as the transfer (catch and throw)...how quickly the player can receive and get rid of the ball.

bwburke94 · 10-18-2019, 04:56 AM

In which case I'm wondering why it's relevant for 3B...

Matt Arnold · 10-18-2019, 05:18 AM

It factors in a little. Basically a small amount about starting a DP, but a larger factor in handling the turn. So it matters a lot more for 2B/SS, but a 3B with a horrible rating will start less DP than one with a better rating.

koohead · 10-18-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

In which case I'm wondering why it's relevant for 3B...

6-5-3? 3-5-3? LOL I dunno. with all the weird shifts in play today I guess anything is possible.

CBeisbol · 10-18-2019, 05:27 PM

Makes me think that I don't recall ever having seen a 5-3 double play (where the 3Bman steps on the bag and throws to 1st for the out). Nor, have I ever seen an unassisted double (or triple) play. Can anyone confirm if these are part of the game, or not?

old fat bald guy · 10-20-2019, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Makes me think that I don't recall ever having seen a 5-3 double play (where the 3Bman steps on the bag and throws to 1st for the out). Nor, have I ever seen an unassisted double (or triple) play. Can anyone confirm if these are part of the game, or not?

I saw a 5-3 the other day. As for the other stuff, in my experience it feels as if runners don't get doubled up on line drives as often in the game as irl. I'm not one of the people who cares about things like that. My alternate universe doesn't have to be identical to this one.

fredbeene · 05-01-2021, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It factors in a little. Basically a small amount about starting a DP, but a larger factor in handling the turn. So it matters a lot more for 2B/SS, but a 3B with a horrible rating will start less DP than one with a better rating.

3-6-3 is not easy.
lets add additional ratings for start and turn : )
lets add additional stats for double plays attempted!! : ))))
DPGO double play ground out
DPLO double play line out!

10-17-2019, 08:06 AM	#1
old fat bald guy Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 220	Little things I'm curious about, Part 973 What does the "Turn DP" rating cover, and what doesn't it? I'm playing a defensively average third baseman whose Turn DP is in the red numbers, but the 5-4-3s are still happening. Is it just about the pivot between the first out and the second out?

10-17-2019, 11:41 AM	#3
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,137	I interpret it as both the pivot as well as the transfer (catch and throw)...how quickly the player can receive and get rid of the ball. __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

10-17-2019, 08:32 AM	#2
cmaug Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 344	that's how I interpret it - only matters for SS & 2B

10-18-2019, 04:56 AM	#4
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,443	In which case I'm wondering why it's relevant for 3B...

10-18-2019, 05:18 AM	#5
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 14,136	It factors in a little. Basically a small amount about starting a DP, but a larger factor in handling the turn. So it matters a lot more for 2B/SS, but a 3B with a horrible rating will start less DP than one with a better rating.

10-18-2019, 05:27 PM	#7
CBeisbol Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Ban land in 3...2... Posts: 2,943	Makes me think that I don't recall ever having seen a 5-3 double play (where the 3Bman steps on the bag and throws to 1st for the out). Nor, have I ever seen an unassisted double (or triple) play. Can anyone confirm if these are part of the game, or not?