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View Poll Results: Would you use the historical exhibition game feature?
Yes, great idea, I'd use it! 115 57.21%
Nope, waste of time, improve the damned trade AI instead. 86 42.79%
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:13 PM   #61
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You know what I want in a exhibition game remember back when the MLB All-Stars played again the Japan All-Stars? If you have multiple leagues being able to have an all-stat team from one league face all-stars from another league.
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:36 PM   #62
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This would come in super handy for the OOTP Streams, Wednesday nights at 9pm ET on Twitch.

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Old 01-29-2016, 11:49 PM   #63
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I also agree that an option to play a 7-game series from the start screen would be fun as well.
I have no opinion on the feature one way or the other, but if it is to be included, the above would make it much more interesting.

Allow the exhibition to be set up as a best-of-7 series. This would harken back to the old days when some of the major league clubs would play "city series" after the conclusion of the regular season (the Cubs and White Sox played post-regular season city series for many years).
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:55 AM   #64
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I voted YES. I think it's a terrific idea! 1982 World Series Champs Cardinals vs. Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig and the Yanks....

Can't wait to see the outcome of that game
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:32 AM   #65
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I also play historical, but I just wouldn't use a feature to let me do a one-off exhibition game (or even a series) between two historical teams. I prefer to focus on games that count and the long haul. I might do a "best of each kind of team for a season" type league, but that's completely different from the proposed feature. That's just how I happen to be wired, no value judgments are being made or implied here.

I only added that to object to the assertion that people who play historical would therefore use this. I personally play historical and wouldn't use it, because it would take my time away from the games that "count" in whatever historical universe I have set up for myself.
We already have the All Time Great quickstart for this purpose
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:33 AM   #66
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I have no opinion on the feature one way or the other, but if it is to be included, the above would make it much more interesting.

Allow the exhibition to be set up as a best-of-7 series. This would harken back to the old days when some of the major league clubs would play "city series" after the conclusion of the regular season (the Cubs and White Sox played post-regular season city series for many years).
I agree, being able to play series would be really great. But more work as well
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:45 AM   #67
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I wish there was a third option because this would not be a waste of time obviously. But no, this is not a feature I'd use. I play fictional leagues over years of game time. The one I am playing now started in OOTP14 in game year 1890 and is now in 1972. I love how the leagues, teams, storylines have evolved. That is the beauty of this game IMO. I'd rather see enhancements to those strengths.

But a lot of folks play historical sim and this idea is a natural extension of that. So it would not be a waste of time or effort. Especially since, as someone already pointed out, it would appeal to a casual gamer.

You and your team have not made any bad decisions yet Markus. You are not making one here.
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Old 01-30-2016, 11:00 AM   #68
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If possible would like to play an exhibition All Star game. Even if it was just selecting the year and you select the players or players from the ASG from that season. Ultimately i would like to be able to select 25-30 players per team from any year. 1927 ruth, 2015 Trout, etc.
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:24 PM   #69
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People been talking about this for years so yes.

On a sidenote I wonder who the five trolls are that voted "no"
I voted NO.. I would never, ever use this feature. Guess I'm a troll...

So many other things that time could be spent on like AI, 2D enhancement, AI, interface upgrades, AI, coaching staff improvements, oh did I mention, AI?

The game as a whole needs a higher difficulty for SP.
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Old 01-30-2016, 01:07 PM   #70
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I'm pretty sure AI improvements are made across the board for each new version. That said, I'm surprised at the level of interest in this feature. I think it's an excellent idea, esp. if it can include World Series replays.
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:08 PM   #71
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It's a good idea for a lot of gamers.... but I personally wouldn't use it... I only play fictional leagues.

If it improves the finances, then do it... I'm totally for you to make a lot more money.

But for me, I would prefer that you use the time to fix major problems in the game.

Improve the PBP and make it more realistic sounding... it is still pretty clutsy on extra base hits with men on base.
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In my opinion, it's very much worth your effort.
Well, if you are going to ask the question this way (was the poll added after the fact or did I miss it last time?), my vote is as follows. Not that I am necessarily complaining about the trade AI, but your question implies "taking away from other time and resources to provide historical exhibitions." In that case, no.
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Old 01-30-2016, 03:03 PM   #73
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I'd never ever ever ever ever ever use it, but it seems like it'd be easy to implement and, judging from my forums lurking, would be up a lot of people's streets.
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I voted no as well. I feel the future of OOTP is based on how well it performs for fictional modern day leagues, rather than historical. That is not to say there aren't those who enjoy historical play, and while i realize this, I just feel with the limited resources OOTPD has, those efforts are best spent on other areas of the simulation.
I deleted my response to your post earlier. Basically, I tried for humor, but after I read it, I came off as a jackass and you didn't deserve that. Hoping, I'm the only one to have read it.

Here is what I hope is a better thought out response. I agree that the future of this game is in modern fictional simulation. That and the ongoing MLB quickstart improvements will clearly drive this game into the future. The sky is the limit for what this game might become. But, I hope beyond hope that Markus never ever decides to turn his back on historical. I simply don't think enough people realize just how incredible the historical side of this game has become. Recalc is nothing short of genius. Recalc combined with the OOTP development engine, well it's just too cool to put into words. VanillaGorilla and Action Jackson will back me up on this. A little improvement each version and I think Markus will get more and more of the Diamond Mind/Strat crowd to come to the OOTP side.
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I'm pretty sure AI improvements are made across the board for each new version.
Well of course they are.. but how about a "deep dive" this year? I'm also wondering if 2d/3d has been improved, maybe some kind of player movement on the field?
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But, I hope beyond hope that Markus never ever decides to turn his back on historical. I simply don't think enough people realize just how incredible the historical side of this game has become. Recalc is nothing short of genius. Recalc combined with the OOTP development engine, well it's just too cool to put into words. VanillaGorilla and Action Jackson will back me up on this. A little improvement each version and I think Markus will get more and more of the Diamond Mind/Strat crowd to come to the OOTP side.
Markus is definitely not turning his back on historical, au contraire! Can't say much yet but if all goes well you'll see why I say that soon enough

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Markus is definitely not turning his back on historical! Can't say much yet but if all goes well you'll see why I say that soon enough
Last year it was mentioned that historical uniforms might make it in. I may need some form of sedation to contain myself if they are.......or at least make the announcement when I'm at home alone...my coworkers already think I'm nuts.
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Well of course they are.. but how about a "deep dive" this year? I'm also wondering if 2d/3d has been improved, maybe some kind of player movement on the field?
I agree. An AI deep-dive is the most-pressing need at the moment I'd say.

As far as 3D, I don't use it. I use webcast because I like a different stadium image for each venue. Basically, 3D has zero value to me.
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Well of course they are.. but how about a "deep dive" this year? I'm also wondering if 2d/3d has been improved, maybe some kind of player movement on the field?
I don't think Markus or Matt are involved in the 3D work. Someone else is assigned that part of the game.
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I wouldn't use it, so even though I can see why others would want to use it, I voted no. I'd prefer to have the marginal time needed to make this mode operate spent elsewhere, on things I do notice and would use.

It seems to me like there are more "make it this instead!" or "Oooh, that's part way to this thing!" responses than "yes, I would use precisely that feature as designed!"

Personally, time being finite, I'd rather add a "Best Result - " item added to all of the Achievements, instead of just "First Time" and "Last Time", if we are talking about small things that would be nice to have. Or, have hitting streaks for players that are in the Top 3 for that league year still display on the leaderboard, even if that player has a longer career streak in their player history.
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