Two Gerrie Coetzees

Cap · 08-21-2015, 09:58 PM

Yesterday I watched Gerrie Coetzee vs. Mike Weaver (1980) and Michael Dokes (1983). Today it was Coetzee in his second go-round with Mike Schutte (who looked a bit like a young Dan Blocker of Bonanza) in 1977. It struck me part way through that this was a completely different fighter from the Coetzee who KO'd Leon Spinks and went on to 3 shots at the WBA title.

The "post-Leon" Coetzee was a pure one-armed slugger like a modern Max Baer but with serious stamina problems, using his left jab as a range-finder for a looping overhand right.

The pre-prime(?) Coetzee of 1977 was a fairly agile boxer-puncher, moving side to side on his toes, using a good straight left and combinations. In close he had a decent left hook, uppercuts and a short right cross, along with the overhand right. (Seemed like Schutte absorbed a hundred right hands without going down or even seriously stumbling)

Is it possible to emulate these two versions in one fighter?

Cap

bob_bask · 08-22-2015, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cap

Is it possible to emulate these two versions in one fighter?

If you created ratings for different stages of his career then yes.

Cap · 08-22-2015, 02:27 PM

Guess you couldn't use Career Adjustment then?

Cap

bear · 08-22-2015, 04:27 PM

You wouldn't need to. Create a second rating at prime, and make the validity date 1979-07
That way it would be effective after the Spinks bout

bob_bask · 08-22-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap

Guess you couldn't use Career Adjustment then?

That would adjust particular ratings and effect the overall rating, but would not alter his style or 2/3-point punches for two different types as you described.

Cap · 08-23-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bear

You wouldn't need to. Create a second rating at prime, and make the validity date 1979-07
That way it would be effective after the Spinks bout

OK. So right now I have 1 Gerrie Coetzee who has two ratings: Pre-Prime and Default Rating Record. [I'm using Career adjustment for all fighters] So I'd have to create another PRIME rating with a new validity date of 1979-07. How would this work out exactly? I'm guessing I'd have to go in and select the new rating to use that version.

Cap

bear · 08-23-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cap

OK. So right now I have 1 Gerrie Coetzee who has two ratings: Pre-Prime and Default Rating Record. [I'm using Career adjustment for all fighters] So I'd have to create another PRIME rating with a new validity date of 1979-07. How would this work out exactly? I'm guessing I'd have to go in and select the new rating to use that version.

Cap

I would not use the career stage adjustment to create a pre prime
the game will create these ratings automatically
What I'm talking about is creating 2 ratings at prime
You can change which of these you want to use as default the pre or the post Leon

08-21-2015, 09:58 PM	#1
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,776 Blog Entries: 4	Two Gerrie Coetzees Yesterday I watched Gerrie Coetzee vs. Mike Weaver (1980) and Michael Dokes (1983). Today it was Coetzee in his second go-round with Mike Schutte (who looked a bit like a young Dan Blocker of Bonanza) in 1977. It struck me part way through that this was a completely different fighter from the Coetzee who KO'd Leon Spinks and went on to 3 shots at the WBA title. The "post-Leon" Coetzee was a pure one-armed slugger like a modern Max Baer but with serious stamina problems, using his left jab as a range-finder for a looping overhand right. The pre-prime(?) Coetzee of 1977 was a fairly agile boxer-puncher, moving side to side on his toes, using a good straight left and combinations. In close he had a decent left hook, uppercuts and a short right cross, along with the overhand right. (Seemed like Schutte absorbed a hundred right hands without going down or even seriously stumbling) Is it possible to emulate these two versions in one fighter? Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

08-22-2015, 02:27 PM	#3
Cap Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Large Province in God's Country Posts: 7,776 Blog Entries: 4	Guess you couldn't use Career Adjustment then? Cap __________________ "...There were Giants in Those Days.."

08-22-2015, 04:27 PM	#4
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 18,798	You wouldn't need to. Create a second rating at prime, and make the validity date 1979-07 That way it would be effective after the Spinks bout __________________ Bear's Unstable UTBA Season Four Gold Conference Central Division Champion First UTBA expansion franchise to win a conference divisional title