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Old 12-12-2019, 01:18 AM   #21
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It would be really interesting if Cole turns out to be like Sonny Gray and can't pitch in Yankee Stadium....
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Old 12-12-2019, 10:33 AM   #22
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Anthony Rendon to the Angels. Maybe now Trout will get more than one career postseason hit.
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Old 12-12-2019, 11:04 AM   #23
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Does anybody realistically think, barring steroids, that Cole is going to be a $36 mil pitcher in years 8 and 9 of his contract?
No
But does anybody realistically think he's *only* a $36 million pitcher now?

Apply this same "logic" to buying a car

Person buys a new car for $500 a month for 7 years.
Month 84: can you believe I'm paying $500 a month for this 7 year old clunker? What a rip off. Just seven years ago I was paying $500 a month for a brand new car!!!111One

No. He won't be a $36 million pitcher *in* 9 years. But, he is a $324 million dollar pitcher *over* the next nine years

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Old 12-12-2019, 12:09 PM   #24
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You keep making sense, CB. You're starting to grow on me.
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Old 12-12-2019, 12:15 PM   #25
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It would be really interesting if Cole turns out to be like Sonny Gray and can't pitch in Yankee Stadium....
Do batters swing and miss differently in New York?
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Old 12-12-2019, 12:33 PM   #26
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A-Rods original contract was sign with the Texas Rangers . The Yankees traded for A-Rod and the Rangers payed a part of the original contract.
You seem to forget the part where they signed him to a new, more massive deal 3 years after trading for him

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Old 12-12-2019, 01:36 PM   #27
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Anyone think that part of the reason Cole selected the Yankees was about legacy? Don't get me wrong I know money played the big decision maker but, before he signed, I was thinking about the choices.

With the Angels, Dodgers, and Yankees favored to sign him. I began to think about his long term. If any part of him was concerned about legacy then going to the Dodgers or Yanks would be the best bet. Those two teams offer the best chance for winning. If he went to the Angels then he is more likely to have less help.

Just a thought I had.
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Old 12-12-2019, 03:07 PM   #28
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Anyone think that part of the reason Cole selected the Yankees was about legacy? Don't get me wrong I know money played the big decision maker but, before he signed, I was thinking about the choices.

With the Angels, Dodgers, and Yankees favored to sign him. I began to think about his long term. If any part of him was concerned about legacy then going to the Dodgers or Yanks would be the best bet. Those two teams offer the best chance for winning. If he went to the Angels then he is more likely to have less help.

Just a thought I had.
I don't know if you can call it legacy - maybe the reverse of it - but there is this to consider:

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Yeah not sure if legacy even played a part but being he has a better chance of getting to the Hall having signed with the Yanks then he would have by signing with the Angels.
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Old 12-12-2019, 04:11 PM   #30
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I'm not sure if winning titles with the Yankees gets you a lot of respect anymore.
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Old 12-12-2019, 04:36 PM   #31
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I'm not sure if winning titles with the Yankees gets you a lot of respect anymore.
Has to get you more respect than winning one with Houston's, ummmm, strategy
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I'm not sure if winning titles with the Yankees gets you a lot of respect anymore.
Oh i'm not saying that the championships will mean more because he is with the Yanks. I'm just saying he has a better chance to get the stats needed for the Hall by signing with the Yanks(or the Dodgers if he went to them) over the Angels.
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Old 12-12-2019, 05:32 PM   #33
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Do batters swing and miss differently in New York?
LOL, no, but I think that the NY faithful got in Gray's head. Gray had a good year in Cincy once he got away from NY. Not everyone likes the spotlight that bright.
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LOL, no, but I think that the NY faithful got in Gray's head. Gray had a good year in Cincy once he got away from NY. Not everyone likes the spotlight that bright.
Alternative theory

The Reds' pitching coaches are better than the Yankees'. Or, at least, worked better with Gray.
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Oh i'm not saying that the championships will mean more because he is with the Yanks. I'm just saying he has a better chance to get the stats needed for the Hall by signing with the Yanks(or the Dodgers if he went to them) over the Angels.
I don't think the hall considers wins losses the most important stat
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I don't think the hall considers wins losses the most important stat
Most important no but definitely up there. K's, ERA,Wins, and Cy Youngs are still important to them. But a pitcher with excellent post season success is huge as well and I believe Cole will have more of that with the Yanks compared to the Angels.
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Most important no but definitely up there. K's, ERA,Wins, and Cy Youngs are still important to them. But a pitcher with excellent post season success is huge as well and I believe Cole will have more of that with the Yanks compared to the Angels.

Maybe but the Yankees haven't been that great recently.
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You seem to forget the part where they signed him to a new, more massive deal 3 years after trading for him
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With Jacoby's contract gone - not signing Didi - Coles contract is not going to hurt Yankees with the cap much next year it is about the future and the future CBA.
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With Jacoby's contract gone - not signing Didi - Coles contract is not going to hurt Yankees with the cap much next year it is about the future and the future CBA.
The Yankees are still paying Ellsbury this season
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