what am I missing??

bwiese3908 · 04-05-2020, 02:21 PM

Hello,

TRying to figure out why my closer did not pitch in a game that was a certain closer type situation.. Any ideas? Am i setting it up wrong?

Snowball · 04-05-2020, 03:08 PM

I believe having that Stopper + Closer combo is the reason the Closer didn't come in.

The AI isn't the best at deciding when to pull the stopper for the closer. I ran into that issue earlier in the season.

You can play around with having multiple stoppers (no closer) and the one you want as the closer with secondary role as closer. No guarantee that will work tho.

Or don't use the stopper role

bwiese3908 · 04-05-2020, 03:48 PM

Thank you for that!!

I was assuming the stopper role was like the 8th inning specialist setting it up for the Closer. What you said makes sense, I will adjust the roles and see if that works better.

Thanks again!!

Syd Thrift · 04-05-2020, 04:03 PM

Nah, the 8th inning set up role for the closer is, well, Set Up. The Stopper role is more for your primary reliever in eras previous to the late 1980s when you used that guy not just to preserve save situations in the 9th but to preserve wins and try to win out ties any time after the 7th or 8th inning. You’d expect these guys to throw, say, 70 games and 120 innings, not 60 and 70-80. Think (or, if you’re not old enough, look up) Dan Quisenberry or Willie Hernandez (or, earlier, Hoyt Wilhelm or, for an extreme example, Mike Marshall).

chazzycat · 04-06-2020, 01:44 PM

There's nothing wrong with combining stoppers & closers if you want to. The stopper will surely take some saves away from the closer, but if they are both solid pitchers there's nothing wrong with that per se. But if you have one pitcher head & shoulders above the rest, and want him taking as many save chances as possible, then yeah don't combine with stoppers.

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Snowball Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 23	I believe having that Stopper + Closer combo is the reason the Closer didn't come in. The AI isn't the best at deciding when to pull the stopper for the closer. I ran into that issue earlier in the season. You can play around with having multiple stoppers (no closer) and the one you want as the closer with secondary role as closer. No guarantee that will work tho. Or don't use the stopper role __________________ Last edited by Snowball; 04-05-2020 at 03:41 PM.

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bwiese3908 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 142	Thank you for that!! I was assuming the stopper role was like the 8th inning specialist setting it up for the Closer. What you said makes sense, I will adjust the roles and see if that works better. Thanks again!!

04-06-2020, 01:44 PM	#5
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	There's nothing wrong with combining stoppers & closers if you want to. The stopper will surely take some saves away from the closer, but if they are both solid pitchers there's nothing wrong with that per se. But if you have one pitcher head & shoulders above the rest, and want him taking as many save chances as possible, then yeah don't combine with stoppers.