Career Ending Injuries

gem · 12-29-2014, 06:53 PM

Is there a way to get rid of them and just have season and a half long injuries instead? In historical leagues they make sense because at one time season ending injuries did exist. However with modern medicine I question if anything short of amputation or a terminal illness should warrant a CEI.

I just had a stud pitcher mess up his elbow over the off-season when he fell off a ladder and now his career is over.

Maybe that could happen but I'd rather it not. I know I can edit him and change it but is there a way to prevent it from even happening in the future? A setting to turn off CEI?

DustinthePOWERHOUSE · 12-29-2014, 07:04 PM

I don't think the game lets you specificy to that degree what type of injuries and length of injuries are allowed in the game...might be in the code to be honest.

RchW · 12-29-2014, 07:13 PM

Edit him back into play.

PSUColonel · 12-29-2014, 07:49 PM

career ending injuries need to be more dynamic....you just don't know the exact day your career is over after all

jpeters1734 · 12-29-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

career ending injuries need to be more dynamic....you just don't know the exact day your career is over after all

yes this^

RchW · 12-29-2014, 08:37 PM

See I find that irrelevant. My internal storyline fills in the gaps and I can do baseball stuff instead.

Different strokes.

21C · 12-29-2014, 09:57 PM

Yes, you can edit the injuries.txt file in the database folder. Mine is here in Windows 7:
C:\Users\Richard\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 15\database

I have attached my edited file that I use to avoid CEI but it doesn't affect players that experience a setback. I still have to go in and edit that in game.

BTW the value that needs to be edited in the file is under the heading of Career Ending Possible Bool. Change the 1s to 0s. I keep a copy of the file in another folder since OOTP always overwrites it when updating.

21C · 12-29-2014, 10:00 PM

I believe the falling off the ladder injury comes under the heading of a Storyline. I usually disable these myself.

diesel230 · 12-29-2014, 10:15 PM

I always said while i enjoy having career ending injuries in the game, i find it very unrealistic that the player gets injured, its known his career is over and his team releases him all within a day. Like PSU said, the injuries should be more dynamic. I like when guys have setbacks with major injuries and over time, their career ends. But an outfielder diving for a ball, getting injured and retiring at the end of the day is very far fetched.

gem · 12-29-2014, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 21C

Yes, you can edit the injuries.txt file in the database folder. Mine is here in Windows 7:
C:\Users\Richard\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 15\database

I have attached my edited file that I use to avoid CEI but it doesn't affect players that experience a setback. I still have to go in and edit that in game.

BTW the value that needs to be edited in the file is under the heading of Career Ending Possible Bool. Change the 1s to 0s. I keep a copy of the file in another folder since OOTP always overwrites it when updating.

Thanks! So setbacks can still occur that cause a CEI?

I don't mind longterm injuries. I edited the SP in the op to a season long injury. I just don't like CEI. I know they can happen. Darryl Kile is an example. No coming back from that.

Still, that should be very rare.

ra7c7er · 12-30-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gem

Is there a way to get rid of them and just have season and a half long injuries instead? In historical leagues they make sense because at one time season ending injuries did exist. However with modern medicine I question if anything short of amputation or a terminal illness should warrant a CEI.

I just had a stud pitcher mess up his elbow over the off-season when he fell off a ladder and now his career is over.

Maybe that could happen but I'd rather it not. I know I can edit him and change it but is there a way to prevent it from even happening in the future? A setting to turn off CEI?

Really? People in all sports have career ending injuries every year.

Lockdog · 12-30-2014, 06:09 PM

Might as well make career-ending injuries a setting that can be toggled. Either turn them off or leave them on, user's choice. Everyone wins.

jpeters1734 · 12-30-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lockdog

Might as well make career-ending injuries a setting that can be toggled. Either turn them off or leave them on, user's choice. Everyone wins.

That would solve a lot of issues

moneyball · 12-31-2014, 11:04 AM

Most of the career ending injuries I've seen are on setbacks from an injury like this guy who I had high hopes after drafting him. 18/12/15 would have made for a great starter if he realized his potential.

RchW · 12-31-2014, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gem

Thanks! So setbacks can still occur that cause a CEI?

I don't mind longterm injuries. I edited the SP in the op to a season long injury. I just don't like CEI. I know they can happen. Darryl Kile is an example. No coming back from that.

Still, that should be very rare.

See this. Injured in April done in September.

Hajew86 · 12-31-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

See this. Injured in April done in September.

Now if you dig even deeper was it the knee bruise and elbow tendinitis injuries that eventually caused the bigger problem of the torn labrum?? That's what I would call real life dynamics.

RchW · 12-31-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hajew86

Now if you dig even deeper was it the knee bruise and elbow tendinitis injuries that eventually caused the bigger problem of the torn labrum?? That's what I would call real life dynamics.

Good point. Is there an accumulative effect? We do see the injury history change with time, so... ...

Spritze · 12-31-2014, 03:17 PM

Attached is a replacement injury file someone made previously that does not allow for injuries longer than 2 weeks and for no CEI's at all. You can alter it in any way you wish or use it to learn how to alter any other injuries file in any way you wish. The file is located in the database directory of OOTP15.

hfield007 · 01-01-2015, 09:43 AM

whenever I get a CEI in my game for a player in the league I usually just edit it to him being out for anywhere from 400-800 days and put them in FA. Sometimes they come back and are shells of their former selves while other times they still have some great play left. Always interesting to see who takes the gamble signing.

gem · 01-03-2015, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ra7c7er

Really? People in all sports have career ending injuries every year.

Usually old players or freak accidents.

This guy fell off a ladder, had 'bone chips in elbow' and had his career ended.

That has been a three month layoff after surgery all the way back to Kirk McCaskill.

If the guy got hit in the face by a line drive like Juan Encarnacion then maybe I could swallow it more. Falling off a ladder and having 'bone chips' ... that is something modern medicine fixes all the time.

12-29-2014, 06:53 PM	#1
gem Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 8	Career Ending Injuries Is there a way to get rid of them and just have season and a half long injuries instead? In historical leagues they make sense because at one time season ending injuries did exist. However with modern medicine I question if anything short of amputation or a terminal illness should warrant a CEI. I just had a stud pitcher mess up his elbow over the off-season when he fell off a ladder and now his career is over. Maybe that could happen but I'd rather it not. I know I can edit him and change it but is there a way to prevent it from even happening in the future? A setting to turn off CEI?

12-29-2014, 07:04 PM	#2
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12-29-2014, 08:37 PM	#6
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	See I find that irrelevant. My internal storyline fills in the gaps and I can do baseball stuff instead. Different strokes. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

12-31-2014, 11:04 AM	#14
moneyball Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 40	Usually on a Setback for Me Most of the career ending injuries I've seen are on setbacks from an injury like this guy who I had high hopes after drafting him. 18/12/15 would have made for a great starter if he realized his potential. Attached Images __________________ "It's about getting things down to one number. Using the stats the way we read them, we'll find value in players that no one else can see. People are overlooked for a variety of biased reasons and perceived flaws. Age, appearance, personality. Bill James and mathematics cut straight through that. Billy, of the 20,000 notable players for us to consider, I believe that there is a championship team of twenty-five people that we can afford, because everyone else in baseball undervalues them."

12-29-2014, 07:49 PM	#4
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,988 Blog Entries: 37	career ending injuries need to be more dynamic....you just don't know the exact day your career is over after all

12-29-2014, 10:00 PM	#8
21C Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Newcastle, Australia Posts: 299	I believe the falling off the ladder injury comes under the heading of a Storyline. I usually disable these myself.

12-29-2014, 10:15 PM	#9
diesel230 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 668	I always said while i enjoy having career ending injuries in the game, i find it very unrealistic that the player gets injured, its known his career is over and his team releases him all within a day. Like PSU said, the injuries should be more dynamic. I like when guys have setbacks with major injuries and over time, their career ends. But an outfielder diving for a ball, getting injured and retiring at the end of the day is very far fetched.

12-30-2014, 06:09 PM	#12
Lockdog Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 263	Might as well make career-ending injuries a setting that can be toggled. Either turn them off or leave them on, user's choice. Everyone wins.

01-01-2015, 09:43 AM	#19
hfield007 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,650	whenever I get a CEI in my game for a player in the league I usually just edit it to him being out for anywhere from 400-800 days and put them in FA. Sometimes they come back and are shells of their former selves while other times they still have some great play left. Always interesting to see who takes the gamble signing.