Rolling Thread of prices for rarities

crowhop · 11-12-2018, 03:39 PM

Someone just hit on a BIN for 7500 on Ozzie Smith 1987 AS. I didn't expect it to go for quite that much.

I'm watching to see if someone hits on the Pete Rose PEAK. Just a while ago there was a Rose PEAK that someone dropped in for 1000 BIN. It was gone by the time I clicked on it.

Orcin · 11-12-2018, 04:43 PM

I have the utmost respect for the Wizard of Oz, but his card is not worth 7500PP. I guess you should always price that Buy It Now high just in case.

Josquin · 11-12-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crowhop

Someone just hit on a BIN for 7500 on Ozzie Smith 1987 AS. I didn't expect it to go for quite that much.

I'm watching to see if someone hits on the Pete Rose PEAK. Just a while ago there was a Rose PEAK that someone dropped in for 1000 BIN. It was gone by the time I clicked on it.

Yup, I snapped it up without a second thought

crowhop · 11-12-2018, 06:00 PM

Though it is "only" a 78 card, he's your SS forever, most likely. There's a lot of value in that.

Josquin · 11-12-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by crowhop

Though it is "only" a 78 card, he's your SS forever, most likely. There's a lot of value in that.

Sorry, I meant I snapped up the Pete Rose Legend card for 1000 PP. I agree with the posters here that Ozzie Smith is not worth the going rate.

One Post Wonder · 11-12-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crowhop

Though it is "only" a 78 card, he's your SS forever, most likely. There's a lot of value in that.

That, there, is what determines the real value of a card. Not the OVR. I'd pay 7500 for it (if I had 7500).

Orcin · 11-12-2018, 09:08 PM

But you could get it for much less.

One Post Wonder · 11-13-2018, 01:42 AM

Perhaps, but I've never seen one on sale.

el_gringo · 11-14-2018, 04:22 PM

Ya, that 78-rated Ozzie is easily one of the rarest cards - I almost never see them at the AH, which is saying something for a silver (even a historical one). Even his 74-rated card is pretty hard to come by. If you prioritize defense but still care about offense to some degree, there's really no better SS I've seen at any level of rarity. The Diamond/Gold SS crew can all hit well, but none have the defense of the Wizard... Simmons is comparable on defense of course, but he's also among the most expensive and rare silvers in the AH, and has worse offensive and speed ratings. Lindor even gets pushed to 2B on my team, because he can't compete with Ozzie at SS.

I've noticed that several of the undisputed 'best defenders' (who can hit at least reasonably well) seem to have this going on. When was the last time Andruw Jones (Gold, but still - not Diamond or perfect) hit the AH, and what does he usually go for, for example? I almost never see him there, but a copy of Trout is always available if you've got enough PP to spend.

max venerabel · 11-23-2018, 11:23 AM

I bought 2018 Jose Ramierez for nearly 8K. I really needed a 2B, and as high as that sounded, you can't do much better than Jose Ramierez and its only marginally more than the price of a single Gold pack.

asaintsfan · 12-01-2018, 03:30 PM

Haven’t seen a honus Wagner for sale yet

schreck · 12-15-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by el_gringo

Ya, that 78-rated Ozzie is easily one of the rarest cards - I almost never see them at the AH, which is saying something for a silver (even a historical one). Even his 74-rated card is pretty hard to come by. If you prioritize defense but still care about offense to some degree, there's really no better SS I've seen at any level of rarity. The Diamond/Gold SS crew can all hit well, but none have the defense of the Wizard... Simmons is comparable on defense of course, but he's also among the most expensive and rare silvers in the AH, and has worse offensive and speed ratings. Lindor even gets pushed to 2B on my team, because he can't compete with Ozzie at SS.

I've noticed that several of the undisputed 'best defenders' (who can hit at least reasonably well) seem to have this going on. When was the last time Andruw Jones (Gold, but still - not Diamond or perfect) hit the AH, and what does he usually go for, for example? I almost never see him there, but a copy of Trout is always available if you've got enough PP to spend.

I got a Tulo from 2011 that is a beast on Defense, and great offense too. What is Ozzie's D rated at? I pulled an 89 Gold Pee Wee Reese as well, didn't expect to find a better defensive guy, but Tulo beats him pretty comfortably in the error rating, and has a bit better offense.

Janks · 12-15-2018, 09:28 PM

Here's the 78 OVR OZ

Dogberry99 · 12-17-2018, 01:44 AM

The 2007 Rookie Sensation Tulo actually has better defensive ratings than the 2011 All Star, though you're giving up more offense than what you're gaining on defense

SayHey1 · 12-18-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Janks

Here's the 78 OVR OZ

How on EARTH is that card only rated a 78 OVR?

Janks · 12-18-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SayHey1

How on EARTH is that card only rated a 78 OVR?

That could explain his auction history.

He doesn't fit my theme team. I tried to sell him before the season and there were no bids.
So now he's hitting .342 with a .410 OBP, 23 stolen bases and 1 error through May 17 of this season.

el_gringo · 12-18-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SayHey1

How on EARTH is that card only rated a 78 OVR?

1 Power pulls him down/caps him, I can only imagine. I'm not complaining, if it had managed to be a low-80's-rated card it'd cost a small fortune...

Orcin · 12-18-2018, 09:13 PM

It's a great card but it is WAY overpriced. There are several gold historical shortstops (Reese, Rizzuto, Boudreau) that are as good overall, and Lindor is much better for less money.

CrazyWR · 12-19-2018, 08:33 AM

Lindor can't touch Ozzie's glove. Thats important to some people. He definitely will outhit him though.

Orcin · 12-19-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyWR

Lindor can't touch Ozzie's glove.

I disagree. If you have both players in your league, look at the actual fielding stats. They are very similar.

11-12-2018, 03:39 PM	#1
crowhop Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 207	Rolling Thread of prices for rarities Someone just hit on a BIN for 7500 on Ozzie Smith 1987 AS. I didn't expect it to go for quite that much. I'm watching to see if someone hits on the Pete Rose PEAK. Just a while ago there was a Rose PEAK that someone dropped in for 1000 BIN. It was gone by the time I clicked on it. Last edited by crowhop; 11-12-2018 at 03:52 PM.

11-14-2018, 04:22 PM	#9
el_gringo Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 275	Ya, that 78-rated Ozzie is easily one of the rarest cards - I almost never see them at the AH, which is saying something for a silver (even a historical one). Even his 74-rated card is pretty hard to come by. If you prioritize defense but still care about offense to some degree, there's really no better SS I've seen at any level of rarity. The Diamond/Gold SS crew can all hit well, but none have the defense of the Wizard... Simmons is comparable on defense of course, but he's also among the most expensive and rare silvers in the AH, and has worse offensive and speed ratings. Lindor even gets pushed to 2B on my team, because he can't compete with Ozzie at SS. I've noticed that several of the undisputed 'best defenders' (who can hit at least reasonably well) seem to have this going on. When was the last time Andruw Jones (Gold, but still - not Diamond or perfect) hit the AH, and what does he usually go for, for example? I almost never see him there, but a copy of Trout is always available if you've got enough PP to spend. Last edited by el_gringo; 11-14-2018 at 04:25 PM.

12-01-2018, 03:30 PM	#11
asaintsfan All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Orleans LA Posts: 524	Haven’t seen a honus Wagner for sale yet Attached Images Last edited by asaintsfan; 12-01-2018 at 03:44 PM.

12-15-2018, 09:28 PM	#13
Janks Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 283	Here's the 78 OVR OZ Attached Images

11-12-2018, 04:43 PM	#2
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	I have the utmost respect for the Wizard of Oz, but his card is not worth 7500PP. I guess you should always price that Buy It Now high just in case.

11-12-2018, 06:00 PM	#4
crowhop Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 207	Though it is "only" a 78 card, he's your SS forever, most likely. There's a lot of value in that.

11-12-2018, 09:08 PM	#7
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	But you could get it for much less.

11-13-2018, 01:42 AM	#8
One Post Wonder All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 538	Perhaps, but I've never seen one on sale.

11-23-2018, 11:23 AM	#10
max venerabel Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 103	I bought 2018 Jose Ramierez for nearly 8K. I really needed a 2B, and as high as that sounded, you can't do much better than Jose Ramierez and its only marginally more than the price of a single Gold pack.

12-17-2018, 01:44 AM	#14
Dogberry99 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Posts: 1,328	The 2007 Rookie Sensation Tulo actually has better defensive ratings than the 2011 All Star, though you're giving up more offense than what you're gaining on defense

12-18-2018, 09:13 PM	#18
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	It's a great card but it is WAY overpriced. There are several gold historical shortstops (Reese, Rizzuto, Boudreau) that are as good overall, and Lindor is much better for less money.

12-19-2018, 08:33 AM	#19
CrazyWR All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 549	Lindor can't touch Ozzie's glove. Thats important to some people. He definitely will outhit him though.