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Old 04-23-2014, 06:49 PM   #1
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First time for everything........

I had the bases loaded and no outs. GB to the third baseman, stepped on bag, fired to 2nd, but he relay to first was late, so the PBP said not quite fast enough for a Triple Play. I've been playing since v4, and I've never witnessed the game try for a triple play in that situation. Nice addition.

HOWEVER: I did just notice the runner didn't score, he stayed on third. Not sure I'd say that should happen.

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HOWEVER: I did just notice the runner didn't score, he stayed on third. Not sure I'd say that should happen.
Well, wait a minute. When the 3B stepped on his base, he was forcing the runner coming from second. His throw to second nipped the guy coming from first. Two outs, batter safe at first. In the meantime, you said the bases were loaded so there was a runner on third. Maybe he got hung up midway and was "looked" back to third by the 2B before he threw to first? What does the PbP say (if you had it set for full detail)?
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Well, wait a minute. When the 3B stepped on his base, he was forcing the runner coming from second. His throw to second nipped the guy coming from first. Two outs, batter safe at first. In the meantime, you said the bases were loaded so there was a runner on third. Maybe he got hung up midway and was "looked" back to third by the 2B before he threw to first? What does the PbP say (if you had it set for full detail)?
There was no mention of it. I assumed I scored, and didn't notice until after I posted.
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There was no mention of it. I assumed I scored, and didn't notice until after I posted.
Well, I assume something like that happened. I've never seen it myself but that's also due to the fact that I play with instant, short PbP rather than the long version. Anything in the game log?
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I had the bases loaded and no outs. GB to the third baseman, stepped on bag, fired to 2nd, but he relay to first was late, so the PBP said not quite fast enough for a Triple Play. I've been playing since v4, and I've never witnessed the game try for a triple play in that situation. Nice addition.

HOWEVER: I did just notice the runner didn't score, he stayed on third. Not sure I'd say that should happen.
Go ahead and post this in the bug report thread. Markus can fix it if he deems it a problem. (And I do think it's a problem.) Thanks.
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:38 AM   #6
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Well, wait a minute. When the 3B stepped on his base, he was forcing the runner coming from second. His throw to second nipped the guy coming from first. Two outs, batter safe at first. In the meantime, you said the bases were loaded so there was a runner on third. Maybe he got hung up midway and was "looked" back to third by the 2B before he threw to first? What does the PbP say (if you had it set for full detail)?
This seems pretty incredible for a bases loaded situation. The runner at 3B wouldn't have been watching the play, he would have been breaking for home on contact at the same time all of the other runners would have been going.

This reminds me of the "1st and 3rd, nobody out, GIDP doesn't score the runner" issue that crops up from time to time. I've never seen that happen watching a real game, I can't even imagine a bases loaded situation not leading to the run scoring, unless the first out was at home plate.
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Well, I assume something like that happened. I've never seen it myself but that's also due to the fact that I play with instant, short PbP rather than the long version. Anything in the game log?
No mention of it in the log either. Just a 5-4 DP. No mention of runner on 3b.
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No run scores because hitter never got to first base safely
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But he DID get to first base safely.


I had an actual triple play once.


I recently had the most exciting thing I have seen... an inside-the-park GRAND SLAM homer... by a pitcher.
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I recently had the most exciting thing I have seen... an inside-the-park GRAND SLAM homer... by a pitcher.
That would be interesting to see in real life lol
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That would be interesting to see in real life lol
Joaquin Andujar did it last in 1979. Mel Stottlemyre hit an ITP slam in 1965.
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I managed a triple play in one of the last v14 games I played. 5-4-3. Was a nice cap to a great game. Both the one played and ootp14 in general.
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Old 04-24-2014, 12:54 PM   #15
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I have never seen a triple play that resulted in a run scored with bases loaded in real life or on OOTP. I would love to see and learn if there is a way to score on a triple play.
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I have never seen a triple play that resulted in a run scored with bases loaded in real life or on OOTP. I would love to see and learn if there is a way to score on a triple play.
there are plenty of ways to score on a triple play. As long as the run scores before the final out is recorded and the final out isn't a force, it's all good.

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bases loaded nobody out

ball gets hit to CF and is caught by the CF (OUT 1). Runners on 3rd & 2nd try to tag up and the CF throws home trying to get the runner. Throw misses the cutoff man and the runner at 1st takes off for 2nd. Catcher throws to 2B nailing the runner (OUT 2). When the catcher threw to 2nd the runner moving to 3rd takes off for home and is thrown out (OUT 3). The original guy at 3B scores.

Now ill admit it does take some horrid baserunning but it's not impossible.
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The runner not scoring on the non-triple play actually isn't that odd.

Simply, the runner got hung up on the hit. If there is less than two outs and the runner is a conservative base runner he may not be breaking on the hit so he doesn't get hung up on a line drive.

In this case if it was a low liner near baseline the runner may have held to make sure it wasn't caught on the fly (in fact he may have even taken a step back towards the bag --- there's nothing worse than a DP-5). The 3rd basemen even may have thought he caught it on the fly and his instinct was force the runner off third and then get the runner off 2nd.

Basically trying for a 5-4 triple play (more common than 5-4-3 i believe) but the ball hopped before he caught it.
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I have never seen a triple play that resulted in a run scored with bases loaded in real life or on OOTP. I would love to see and learn if there is a way to score on a triple play.
It happened in this game: Seattle Mariners vs. Minnesota Twins - Box Score - May 27, 2006 - ESPN
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I had the bases loaded and no outs. GB to the third baseman, stepped on bag, fired to 2nd, but he relay to first was late, so the PBP said not quite fast enough for a Triple Play. I've been playing since v4, and I've never witnessed the game try for a triple play in that situation. Nice addition.

HOWEVER: I did just notice the runner didn't score, he stayed on third. Not sure I'd say that should happen.
Just to be clear here, we're talking about a bases loaded situation, with a GIDP, not a triple play, with the runner not scoring from third. I think that's a problem, I wasn't discussing an actual triple play not scoring a run as a problem at all.
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