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Old 10-18-2019, 02:26 PM   #281
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You didn't answer my question, it seems, Eugene. But so be it, if you don't. Anyway, here are two new caps for the Lumberjacks of Tran City. I'll probably have to work on them more, along with the related jerseys, but hopefully these will do for starters, at least until I find good shades of the necessary colors for the Tran City Lumberjacks/Bucks franchise, if not longer.

As for caps, uniforms, and logos for teams like the Worcester Ruby Legs, among others, I have not yet found many, if any, on the forums so far, unfortunately. It would be nice if someone could make them, and I may try to take a stab at that sort of thing myself, but it might be hard for me to make them close enough to what they might have actually worn.

As far as Lawn Loaf's branching out into the Minnesota townball thing, that seems quite interesting to me, seeing as I live somewhere in the state at the present time, although I'm not saying just where, for the obvious reasons. I certainly will be following that line of things from him. The resolution on the Aitkin Steam logo doesn't seem to be perfect, nor the uniform, but that's probably how he found them when he did some digging. Any poor resolution is not something he can control, after all.

I checked out at least a few of the teams' sites, and some of the graphics aren't exactly ones with the best resolution. But from what he's provided so far along that line of set creation for OOTP, he's evidently done quite well, considering the graphics he's already found to date, even if they're always not the best quality images at the various sources in question. And I commend him for his initiative and hard work, even if his source images aren't of high quality at this point in certain cases.

I think that's just about enough to talk about here now in this post. So I'll close with the two caps I mentioned above, and wish you a great day, Lord willing, of course, Eugene. That is all. CD out.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:31 PM   #282
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The question in the first paragraph of post 277 in this thread. By the way, if you want, feel free to mention my thoughts about Lawn Loaf's Minnesota Baseball Association-related design/commentary thread to him. Another good thread for him, I think, so far. CD out.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:36 PM   #283
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Your caps for Tran City are pretty good... the brown, dark green and bright green colors fit the Lumberjack image... trees are green... trunks and branches are brown.

To make them show up better... outline or trim the brown L letter with the bright green... use the light brown color on the bill for the L letter... and also outline the Brown TC with the bright green... replace the teal (blue green) with the bright green...also replace the white TC letters with the light brown and trim them in bright green... the bright green is already on your cap... the teal green outline does not look as good as the bright green outline..

Both team letters will be highlighted by the new outline color and the caps will look much better in the game.

This is just my opinion.

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Old 10-18-2019, 03:04 PM   #284
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Eugene, what do you think might look good for a team named the Explorers, font-wise, et cetera? Just curious, that's all. They'll eventually become the Vikings, with main colors of black, gold, and red circa 1901, but I'm not sure if those colors would work well enough for the Explorers at this time.

I will also probably need to make sets for the Amjasi Farmers, the Benclimil Thoroughbreds, the Sara City Inventors, and the Shmala Zookeepers, at least, using various colors, but right now, I'm thinking of how I might best design a workable enough set for the Explorers to use very soon.

Thanks for your input. I'll certainly consider it. The caps look okay, if not good, at least as of now, I think. But if they can possibly be improved, then it would be foolish of me not to consider other people's suggestions, at least, would it not be? CD out.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:17 PM   #285
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I was considering pinstriped caps for the Lumberjacks, to match better with the jerseys, but haven't found something workable I'm satisfied enough yet for them, unfortunately. I'll keep trying to come up with workable ones a bit longer, though, I think.

Thanks for your input. Is much appreciated, for sure. CD out.
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What might you suggest I could or should use for logos related to the Scholars, Black Guards, Warriors, Artists, Lumberjacks, Fighters, and Archeologists, at least? I have some ideas already, but not yet sure about how I might be able to make suitable enough logos for each team to use here, though, et cetera.

Thanks for your input. Is much appreciated, for sure. CD out.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:10 PM   #287
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The question in the first paragraph of post 277 in this thread. By the way, if you want, feel free to mention my thoughts about Lawn Loaf's Minnesota Baseball Association-related design/commentary thread to him. Another good thread for him, I think, so far. CD out.
I thought you were just making a comment... didn't notice the question mark.

I'll use your own words to answer the question:

"So do the best I can, and let the Lord work on their hearts and minds as He sees fit and they allow."... Yes, that's what you should do.

As far as you posting on the other OOTP Forums, just "wait on the Lord"... he will work it out for you.

No, CD... I don't think it would be a good idea for me to post your comments about the Minnesota League... you didn't have much good to say about Lawn Loaf's graphics... if I posted your opinion about his graphics, he would probably be offended... no one like to hear critical comments about their work, unless they ask for constructive suggestions or criticism.. even then, you have to do it in a nice way..

I try to only give positive comments about other people's work in their threads... however, I will comment in a nice way that something could be improved... it's all in the way you say something... it has be done in a tactful way.

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You really need to learn the art of being tactful with other people... you unintentionally offend them... the lack of tact caused your problems on the other Forums.

If you live in Minnesota, start your own Minnesota League and just use the teams created by Lawn Loaf that you like... just don't use the ones you do not like.

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Old 10-18-2019, 08:19 PM   #288
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I suppose I won't get much, if any, help either with developing my fictional languages further or creating unique names that certain players might use in-game. Don't know how many linguists play these games, as well, but ^oriole seems to know at least a bit about linguistics and all, at least. CD out.
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CD, you have too many requests about your leagues and teams.

Just decide the teams yourself... you don't need me to offer suggestions.
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I believe I did compliment him on a number of his items. But he, like many others, is probably still upset with me for various reasons, so probably it would not be wise to take any chances with him and others if I can avoid doing so for a good long while.

How will I know when certain others might not mind me commenting in their threads again, if ever, possibly? Just curious, that's all. CD out.
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I suppose I won't get much, if any, help either with developing my fictional languages further or creating unique names that certain players might use in-game. Don't know how many linguists play these games, as well, but ^oriole seems to know at least a bit about linguistics and all, at least. CD out.
The honest truth is that you are going to have to create your fictional names,leagues, teams, nickname, logos, jerseys and caps YOURSELF.

NOBODY IS GOING TO DO IT FOR YOU.

The other way to do is use someone's else leagues that have already been created... someone else's quickstart league where everything has been created for you... all you have to do is just play the games.

A quickstart game would be your best solution... it wouldn't be the way you want to play the game, but it would be far better than what you are doing now.

CD, you spend too much time dreaming up leagues and too much time trying to get other people to create your graphics... and too little time playing the game.

Get you a small league and enjoy it.
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I believe I did compliment him on a number of his items. But he, like many others, is probably still upset with me for various reasons, so probably it would not be wise to take any chances with him and others if I can avoid doing so for a good long while.

How will I know when certain others might not mind me commenting in their threads again, if ever, possibly? Just curious, that's all. CD out.
It will take a long, long time for you to be accepted on the Forums... you are going to have to learn to be tactful.

Actually you didn't have much good to say about the Minnesota League... your comments were mostly about his poor sources... in my opinion they were negative and offensive to most people.

CD, you give "backhanded compliments"... you say some nice things, but then you ruin it with the negative comments.

Examples of a backhanded compliment:

Someone telling his mother-in-law: "My goodness, I'm surprised at how good this dinner was since I know you usually have such trouble with cooking."
"I Didn't Expect You To Get The Job — Congratulations!"
"Well, Half Your Logos, Jerseys and Caps Look Fabulous."
"You really do logos, jerseys and caps very, very well, but I will probably not use them".

"That dress makes you look so much thinner." (Implying that they think you're too fat.)
"It's so refreshing to meet someone who doesn't care how they look!"
"EC, I like the logos you did for me.. I will use them until I get some good ones."

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Not his quality of work, but the fact that a few of the source images on various teams' sites are not necessarily of the best quality. Based on what he evidently has to work with, from the sites I checked out so far, he's doing very good work so far, I think. One can only work with what they may have available at any time, you know. Any poor quality imagery for certain teams is NOT his fault or responsibility. And I was commending him for his initiative and all with the related thread and all. I have NO problems with the work he's done so far in that thread whatsoever, to be PERFECTLY clear here. CD out.
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Read my comments in the third and fourth paragraphs of post 278 in this thread again, please, and you will see that I am definitely not criticizing the quality of his work in the relevant thread. Thank you. CD out.
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Not his quality of work, but the fact that a few of the source images on various teams' sites are not necessarily of the best quality. Based on what he evidently has to work with, from the sites I checked out so far, he's doing very good work so far, I think. One can only work with what they may have available at any time, you know. Any poor quality imagery for certain teams is NOT his fault or responsibility. And I was commending him for his initiative and all with the related thread and all. I have NO problems with the work he's done so far in that thread whatsoever, to be PERFECTLY clear here. CD out.
Sorry, I got the feeling that you said he was using inferior sources and doing his best with them.
This is your backhanded compliment: "And I commend him for his initiative and hard work, even if his source images aren't of high quality at this point in certain cases."

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Okay. thanks for trying to help me here, Eugene. And letting me know where I could very well be in error and all. It is much appreciated, for sure. Have a good rest of the night, then, I hope. Talk to you again soon, Lord willing. CD out.
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Eugene, in relation to any or all of my previous yet-unfilled requests, I have now left them ALL in God's Hands. IF they ever get filled, it will ONLY be because God has actually led others to fill them. I will let Him handle such matters from now on, and not get in His way with them, as best as I can, for sure.

As far as any future requests I may eventually make someday, I'm quite certain that I will not make many, if any, for quite some time. And IF I do make any, they will definitely not be so numerous in a certain period of time, whatever that period of time may be at any time in the future. These forums are not just for my use, but everyone else's as well.

I may eventually request a few here and there, every so often, IF I can't make them myself. And I'll definitely let God handle things from then on, IF and WHEN I do, as best as I can.

I just wanted you to know where I stand now in terms of my current thoughts about my various requests from the past, the present, and/or the future. I can't control what others do, et cetera. Nor would I even want to, for sure. I have enough things in my own life that I need to control, where it is actually possible to control them, after all, you know. CD out.
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Tran City Lumberjacks caps updated, per your suggestions. That is all. CD out.
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Tran City Lumberjacks caps updated, per your suggestions. That is all. CD out.
CD, only make the suggested changes in your caps if you like the changes... don't make the changes just to please me.

Do the caps the way YOU like them.

See if my suggestions below improve your graphics.

On the L cap you need to make the L a lighter Brown like the Light Brown on the cap underbill... keep the Bright Green trim on the L... it will show up better than the Dark Brown L.

On the TC cap, change the Teal Green (Blue Green) on the underbill to the Bright Green you used on the TC lettering trim... the cap looks better in my opinion without the Teal (Blue Green).
The Dark Brown, Light Brown and Bright Green coordinate well together.... you did a very nice job... these are the best hats you have made so far.

Please feel free to ignore my graphics suggestions if you don't think they make your graphics better.

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Tried making the L the lighter brown like on the bill, but with the light green, it didn't look good, as far as I could then tell well enough, because the colors seemed too close together in terms of brightness, at least, even if they were different colors. So went with the darker L as seen above.

That's one reason why I put the teal on the away cap as well, I think, in terms of the bill. The underbills of caps are always the color shown in the upper left-hand corner, if memory serves. But with the changes already made, the caps seem to look better than they did before, if I'm not too mistaken here. Thanks for your suggestions.

Am now beginning to work on the Sara City Inventors-related set. You should see something posted soon for your viewing, and possible commentary, I suspect strongly.

Talk to you soon, I hope. CD out.
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