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04-05-2019, 02:17 PM | #21 |
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I'm convinced, from my own anecdotal experience (not any hard data), that it does make a difference.
Huge is probably an over-statement. How large a difference I couldn't really speculate on. But I will say that I increasingly put greater and greater value on having superb defensive catchers (and will sacrifice offense-not that there is much available anyway) at this position. And my team in my fictional league generally has the best or near the best pitching year after year while playing in a park that favors hitters a bit. Edit: But yeah, I have some pretty good pitchers too, including an ace who is the career leader (not much league history yet) in WAR among pitchers. And generally great team defense. So, how does one untangle all of these threads to know what impact each has on the whole? Last edited by BirdWatcher; 04-05-2019 at 02:20 PM. |
04-05-2019, 03:00 PM | #22 | |
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Maybe I'll edit a catcher or two on a team and run a sim to see what happens vs. a few seasons with a non edited/average catcher. I realize we'll probably never have a perfect set of things to look at when it comes to choosing a pitcher... But it would be nice to untangle all this to a few rules of thumb when it comes to building a rotation and a battery. |
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04-05-2019, 03:03 PM | #23 |
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Stats. That's literally all you have to go on, unless they are at least 3.5 stars as a starter or 4.5 as a reliever. There are soooo many pitchers with similar ratings, and you can get such a wide variety of results from them. You gotta look at how they did in the minors, if they can keep their walk rate or HR rate down then they are worth a look, stuff is the least important stat for starters and most important for relievers.
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04-05-2019, 05:36 PM | #24 | |
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04-05-2019, 05:45 PM | #25 | |
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I am looking at FIP-, hr/9, k/9, bb/9, k/bb ratios for my pitchers. That is whats most important. Some of your minor league levels might be awful. But if his ratios are good then that's all that matters. But its also development. If control develops late his minor league numbers/ratios might suffer until control pops and he is mostly developed. That might not be till AAA or sometimes even MLB. While some other pitchers might develop stuff/control early but its their 3rd or 4th pitches that develop late. So some levels in the minors they still might crush it. While high levels they might get rocked. So a lot has to do with development timing and every pitcher has to be looked at on an individual basis. Plus all of the team level factors taking into consideration. My one OOTP 19 universe my AAA, AA, A+ teams won like 5 or 6 championships straight. Which was opposite problem for pitchers as the teams were too good the pitchers appeared even better. |
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04-05-2019, 06:02 PM | #26 |
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I look for stuff and control ... and I try to stay away from flyball pitchers.
Adding good defense up the middle (2B, SS and CF) and I usually get good results.
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04-06-2019, 08:24 AM | #28 | |
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that would be the top 3.33 for each of 30 teams. 4/5th starter junk... if spread out evenly that makes sense... now consider clumpin on better teams with better talent... real distribution. most sp are horrible or flat-out inconsistent. many of those will have good years, but cannot be reasonably expected to remain consistent. there aren't ~20 bonafide aces i n the league. there aren't even ~30 decent #2's or 1A's. never are. maybe some for a short-period of time and coincidentlally it occurs, but ... don't bank on it. a lot of that depends on perception of elite... doing it one year isn't elite to me. even 2-3 years with SP... easy to get lucky for 2-3 years out of a 350 players. Last edited by NoOne; 04-06-2019 at 08:27 AM. |
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04-09-2019, 05:54 PM | #29 |
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I can't speak to the current MLB, but in 2008, the first year for which we have PITCHf/x-based framing stats, the range in receiving value between the best and worst teams was more than 90 runs, or roughly nine wins. That's huge! The number is going down, but I don't have current figures.
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