Pre 1940s players

genuvar · 11-18-2018, 08:32 PM

Originally I wanted to collect a bunch of dead ball era guys and field a team with those but I cant find much of anything pre 1920 in the auction hall so I expanded my list a bit. My goal is still to get the oldest players I can so might switch out some of the late 1930s guys at some point if I can find a replacement.

What I need help with is finding some catchers. There were some good ones back then but not sure if they are in PT. Has anyone seen any pre 1940?

Current Roster:
POS NAME YEAR
Pitcher Pete Alexander PEAK/1915
Pitcher Wilbur Cooper 1921
Pitcher Red Faber 1921
Pitcher Sad Sam Jones 1921
Pitcher Bobo Newsom 1934
Pitcher Charlie Robertson 1922
Pitcher Firpo Marberry 1926
Pitcher Herb Pennock 1927
Pitcher Jack Quinn 1931
Catcher
Catcher
1B George H Burns 1926
LF/1B Bob Bescher 1911 (note: he's doesn’t have much 1B ability)
2B Tony Cuccinello 1938
2B Billy Herman 1937
3B/2B Frankie Frisch PEAK/1930
3B Pepper Martin 1933
SS/2B Miller Huggins 1910 (Note: he's doesn’t have much SS ability)
SS Travis Jackson 1934
LF Jesse Burkett 1901
LF Topsy Hartsel 1905
CF Clyde Milan 1912
CF Roy A Thomas 1901
RF Kiki Cuyler 1925
RF Paul Waner 1932

Orcin · 11-18-2018, 08:33 PM

I have seen Mickey Cochrane. I have Martin and Frisch, both were great for me.

genuvar · 11-18-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

I have seen Mickey Cochrane. I have Martin and Frisch, both were great for me.

That would have been a great one but probably too expensive. Frisch did ok for me in the entry division and I just picked up Pepper Martin so hoping for good things.

genuvar · 11-18-2018, 09:04 PM

Just brought in pitcher George Uhle. Interesting player since he has 75 contact and 74 gap in batting as well as being a solid pitcher.

The Otter · 11-22-2018, 09:22 AM

I can highly recommend 1902 Socks Seybold. He's a right fielder, so he doesn't solve the issue with catchers, but 67 contact/92 power/54 eye is pretty great.

(Of course, with an 88 overall rating, he's definitely the kind of guy you save up for... still, he's performing quite well for me, even at the AA level.)

The one issue with a lot of these earlier players is that they're so error-prone... the game tends to correct most stats for era, which explains why Seybold (who held the American League single-season record for home runs before Babe Ruth, with 16) is such a fearsome slugger by PT standards. But they don't do the same for fielding percentage, so a lot of players are quite bad at avoiding errors.

Lukas Berger · 11-22-2018, 10:06 AM

Really nice theme!

If it's helpful, there are six pre-1940 catchers with seven total cards among them available in PT.

genuvar · 11-22-2018, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Really nice theme!

If it's helpful, there are six pre-1940 catchers with seven total cards among them available in PT.

Thanks Lukas! I've been desperate to find those guys but none have shown up in the auction hall yet.

genuvar · 11-22-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Otter

I can highly recommend 1902 Socks Seybold. He's a right fielder, so he doesn't solve the issue with catchers, but 67 contact/92 power/54 eye is pretty great.

(Of course, with an 88 overall rating, he's definitely the kind of guy you save up for... still, he's performing quite well for me, even at the AA level.)

The one issue with a lot of these earlier players is that they're so error-prone... the game tends to correct most stats for era, which explains why Seybold (who held the American League single-season record for home runs before Babe Ruth, with 16) is such a fearsome slugger by PT standards. But they don't do the same for fielding percentage, so a lot of players are quite bad at avoiding errors.

I saw him out in the auction hall one time but didnt have the points to get him. Kiki Cuyler has been great in RF without him. Babe Ruth would be amazing to snag.

Ran an online league with a bunch of friends in the dead ball era so I get the errors but even with that my team is leading the league in defensive efficiency.

zrog2000 · 11-23-2018, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Otter

I can highly recommend 1902 Socks Seybold. He's a right fielder, so he doesn't solve the issue with catchers, but 67 contact/92 power/54 eye is pretty great.

(Of course, with an 88 overall rating, he's definitely the kind of guy you save up for... still, he's performing quite well for me, even at the AA level.)

The one issue with a lot of these earlier players is that they're so error-prone... the game tends to correct most stats for era, which explains why Seybold (who held the American League single-season record for home runs before Babe Ruth, with 16) is such a fearsome slugger by PT standards. But they don't do the same for fielding percentage, so a lot of players are quite bad at avoiding errors.

I have to agree!

stl jason · 12-19-2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by genuvar

Thanks Lukas! I've been desperate to find those guys but none have shown up in the auction hall yet.

for catchers... saw Bill Dickey in the AH last night.... if I only had the points to afford him I would've snapped that one up for my pre ww2 team.

tried to snag Ernie Lombardi last night as well but someone bid more points that I had available...

atabakin · 12-19-2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stl jason

tried to snag Ernie Lombardi last night as well but someone bid more points that I had available...

That was probably me. He got two hits in his first game... and is 1-24 since. He does have a 1.73 CERA through eight games, though...

stl jason · 12-19-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by atabakin

That was probably me. He got two hits in his first game... and is 1-24 since. He does have a 1.73 CERA through eight games, though...

nice pickup.... how much was the final price?

atabakin · 12-19-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stl jason

nice pickup.... how much was the final price?

About 5300

stl jason · 12-19-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by atabakin

About 5300

sounds about right... think I put down everything I had with 5 seconds to go (5331), so your max bid was obviously higher... his average sale price was over 6K if I remember correctly so still a deal

I'll just keep trolling the AH until the next old timer catcher comes around (that I can afford

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stl jason · 12-20-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Orcin

I have seen Mickey Cochrane. I have Martin and Frisch, both were great for me.

just saw Cochrane as well....

and snagged him... woot!!

pricey (9001) but it's only points

and it was basically the average sale price for him anyway (guess whoever was selling just wanted to move him as the price was 9000 and the BIN was 9001).... big thanks to Burleigh Grimes for throwing the no-hitter for me last night (otherwise I wouldn't have had the points)

gemini615 · 12-21-2018, 07:33 PM

I have a 92 rated Roger Connor. He was the mvp in my bronze league. I tried selling him in the AH a few weeks ago but nobody wanted to fork over the 55,555 I was asking lol

TreMetal · 12-22-2018, 02:50 PM

I just opened an Arky Vaughan that might be right up your alley. 1935 historic all star 96 OVR. I am guessing he is pretty rare though since the last 5 and all time are both 55k. His batting is pretty insane:

stl jason · 12-22-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TreMetal

I just opened an Arky Vaughan that might be right up your alley. 1935 historic all star 96 OVR. I am guessing he is pretty rare though since the last 5 and all time are both 55k. His batting is pretty insane:

nice pickup.... he'd fit quite well into my bunch.... someday maybe I'll have enough to afford someone like that.... maybe

stl jason · 12-27-2018, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by genuvar

Thanks Lukas! I've been desperate to find those guys but none have shown up in the auction hall yet.

saw another in the AH... but he was priced just a wee bit out of what I can afford

11-18-2018, 08:32 PM	#1
genuvar Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 96	Pre 1940s players Originally I wanted to collect a bunch of dead ball era guys and field a team with those but I cant find much of anything pre 1920 in the auction hall so I expanded my list a bit. My goal is still to get the oldest players I can so might switch out some of the late 1930s guys at some point if I can find a replacement. What I need help with is finding some catchers. There were some good ones back then but not sure if they are in PT. Has anyone seen any pre 1940? Current Roster: POS NAME YEAR Pitcher Pete Alexander PEAK/1915 Pitcher Wilbur Cooper 1921 Pitcher Red Faber 1921 Pitcher Sad Sam Jones 1921 Pitcher Bobo Newsom 1934 Pitcher Charlie Robertson 1922 Pitcher Firpo Marberry 1926 Pitcher Herb Pennock 1927 Pitcher Jack Quinn 1931 Catcher Catcher 1B George H Burns 1926 LF/1B Bob Bescher 1911 (note: he's doesn’t have much 1B ability) 2B Tony Cuccinello 1938 2B Billy Herman 1937 3B/2B Frankie Frisch PEAK/1930 3B Pepper Martin 1933 SS/2B Miller Huggins 1910 (Note: he's doesn’t have much SS ability) SS Travis Jackson 1934 LF Jesse Burkett 1901 LF Topsy Hartsel 1905 CF Clyde Milan 1912 CF Roy A Thomas 1901 RF Kiki Cuyler 1925 RF Paul Waner 1932 Last edited by genuvar; 11-18-2018 at 08:39 PM.

11-18-2018, 08:33 PM	#2
Orcin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,798	I have seen Mickey Cochrane. I have Martin and Frisch, both were great for me. Last edited by Orcin; 11-18-2018 at 08:34 PM.

11-22-2018, 10:06 AM	#6
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 19,883	Really nice theme! If it's helpful, there are six pre-1940 catchers with seven total cards among them available in PT. __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Order Out of the Park Baseball 25! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

12-22-2018, 02:50 PM	#17
TreMetal Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 34	I just opened an Arky Vaughan that might be right up your alley. 1935 historic all star 96 OVR. I am guessing he is pretty rare though since the last 5 and all time are both 55k. His batting is pretty insane: Attached Images

11-18-2018, 09:04 PM	#4
genuvar Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 96	Just brought in pitcher George Uhle. Interesting player since he has 75 contact and 74 gap in batting as well as being a solid pitcher.

11-22-2018, 09:22 AM	#5
The Otter Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 41	I can highly recommend 1902 Socks Seybold. He's a right fielder, so he doesn't solve the issue with catchers, but 67 contact/92 power/54 eye is pretty great. (Of course, with an 88 overall rating, he's definitely the kind of guy you save up for... still, he's performing quite well for me, even at the AA level.) The one issue with a lot of these earlier players is that they're so error-prone... the game tends to correct most stats for era, which explains why Seybold (who held the American League single-season record for home runs before Babe Ruth, with 16) is such a fearsome slugger by PT standards. But they don't do the same for fielding percentage, so a lot of players are quite bad at avoiding errors.

12-21-2018, 07:33 PM	#16
gemini615 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 671	I have a 92 rated Roger Connor. He was the mvp in my bronze league. I tried selling him in the AH a few weeks ago but nobody wanted to fork over the 55,555 I was asking lol