Facegen and Player Color

[Long_Long_Name]

I've looked and found nothing about the change I'm about to mention, and it seems odd to me that no one else has mentioned it. Might I be missing something?

In any case, here goes: is a shift from a more photo-realistic to a more cartoony, fake tan orange appearance for Facegen photos intentional, or is anything else at play? The attached photos will give a clue as to what I am talking about, showing the difference between the same players in 14 and 15.

It's one thing to do cartoony, and that would be a defensible choice, but if that's the case, I'd say it's not successful, and it's a downgrade from previous versions.

Unless, again, I am missing something. What do you guys think?

[Fyrestorm3]

This has been brought up before; there's something screwy with facegen in imported leagues. Facegens generated by OOTP14 just don't seem to import well into 15.

[rpriske]

The facegens in my OOTP15 quickstart don't look any better.

I think it is a big step backwards from '14.

(It is the ONLY thing I think is a big step backwards from '14, however...)

[Ruthian23]

For the record, I'm not really seeing this at all. I'm still seeing the first style in my quickstart league, not the cartoonish style. You're not the first to mention it, though the others seemed to be related to imports, as Fyrestorm said. Maybe it's a system thing? I'm using Windows 8.

[Markus Heinsohn]

On some systems Facegen does not work 100% as intended. We are investigating the issue and fix it soon

[sandman2575]

Originally Posted by rpriske

The facegens in my OOTP15 quickstart don't look any better.

I think it is a big step backwards from '14.

Hate to be a negative nellie but I definitely agree. The Facegens across the board in 15 are inferior to 14. They are indeed cartoony, and it's a bizarre step backward. Lots of folks (myself included) jumped on this when the first facegen screenshots were posted back in January. We were all told to calm down because this was still very much under development. But frankly, the released product doesn't seem a whole lot better than the early screenshots.

Absolutely loved the facegens and the UI in 14. I'm very sorry to say I cannot say the same of 15.

[old timer]

I've tried it on multiple systems and the only one that looks like this is my Mac. Any of you with this problem using a Windows system or are you using Macs?

[sandman2575]

I'm playing on regular ol' Windows 7 (64 bit). Also, have tried new leagues, not imported. Facegens in 14 look great on my computer. Facegens in 15 do not. In addition to the less detailed, more cartoony appearance, I'm seeing some weird 'blue' effects with the faces -- I would occasionally get that in 14 but it seems quite prevalent in 15, at least from my experience. Tanaka's portrait in the AIO mod is really distorted with this blue effect -- I'll post a screenshot when I get home from work later.

[diesel230]

Im on a Mac and i have the same issue. The facegens are orange in color, blotchy with very little detail. The facegens in 14 were spot on. You could recognize players instantly without looking at their names. Not the case in 15

[BDMarvel]

Those screens don't looks "cartoony" to me. They just look like they're missing shadows.

[coffee87]

Originally Posted by diesel230

Im on a Mac and i have the same issue. The facegens are orange in color, blotchy with very little detail. The facegens in 14 were spot on. You could recognize players instantly without looking at their names. Not the case in 15

Ditto. I'm also on a Mac - didn't convert the file from 14 either, it's a new quickstart.

[Elektranaut]

Yes,the 15 faces above just look 'over exposed'

[CBLCardinals]

Hey gang,

Im now on a Mac and the facegen's in OOTP14 (PC) look vastly better. Was not sure if that was v14 to v15 or PC vs Mac

Facegen on Mac seem similar to the images placed in the original post.

[Padreman]

I do the Iike the expanded facial hair featured on the 15, love in fact just the faces do look a bit odd

[ChiefWahoo]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

On some systems Facegen does not work 100% as intended. We are investigating the issue and fix it soon

Markus, once you update the FaceGen, could you possibly leave an option to keep the current cartoony look? I, though in the minority, much prefer the cartoony look of players in OOTP 15. I'd be sad to see it go away all together. Thank you!

[byzeil]

As Markus said there seems to be an issue on some computers with facegen.

I imported a v14 league and post screen shots in this other thread my fictional pics look fin in v15.

[Long_Long_Name]

FWIW:

1. I run a Mac, OS 10.9.2.

2. As you can see in the screenshots, this was in an imported league. I created a fictional league as well and re-genned every face, to very similar results.

[Quinton_Upchurch]

Patch #2 seems to have fixed this issue for me (Windows 7)

[Long_Long_Name]

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

FWIW:

1. I run a Mac, OS 10.9.2.

2. As you can see in the screenshots, this was in an imported league. I created a fictional league as well and re-genned every face, to very similar results.

No changes with the new patch (15.2 Build 4) for me.

[coffee87]

Originally Posted by Quinton_Upchurch

Patch #2 seems to have fixed this issue for me (Windows 7)

Didn't fix the issue for me on a Mac. Did you have to start a new game or did it fix the one you were already doing? I want to start my season badly but don't want to if I'll have to restart. I can't stand looking at these creepy over-exposed faces.