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01-19-2020, 12:45 PM | #181 |
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Altuve is still denying it and has the gall to act like he is a victim and predicts the Astros will be back in the series.
We'll see. Other players are starting to call them on it which i think is good. |
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My wife was reading that MLB knew about this for years and decided not to do anything unless the story broke, so here we now are. Leadership means setting the tone at the top, including what's proper behavior. If this is true, it wouldn't be surprising if many of the teams/players began to do it. For sure it would be wrong but again, highly competitive players in a win at all costs society with tons of money at stake and a league that is essentially complicit ... this is a recipe for disaster. |
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You're bothered that cheaters aren't honest? If they were honest people then I wager they wouldn't have cheated in the first place. I hate it too, but I doubt we're going to see many confessions.
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Honestly, I assume the "victim mentality" is more of a sign that he's upset that more teams haven't been found out .... yet |
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01-19-2020, 02:36 PM | #186 |
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Did he though? An accusation does not equal guilt. I've haven't read anywhere that he has been caught. But I have read the MLB say that no body worn devices were discovered.
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Haven't paid much attention to the body device accusation since that seemed a bridge too far to me after trash can banging, so if the "victim mentality" was from those accusations then he'll have to deal with those types of questions for awhile now as it's part of his (and his teammates') reputation now ... which is the risk of cheating |
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01-19-2020, 04:54 PM | #188 | |
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It may be the truth but it's a big reach to buy Altuve's execuse that his wife would be upset with him taking off his shirt in a moment of a lifetime. If Altuve had just said something like that's just not my style it might be more believable. The way he hit that Chapman pitch, running home, hanging on to his shirt, going to the dugout asap and then the way he answered the interviewer's questions makes his claim of innocence hard to believe. Could it be the MLB not wanting to take on the players association? |
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He's denying the ridiculous twitter rumor of players being buzzed on the pitches not the original scandal of the banging trash can. A claim that the MLB investigation found no evidence of. Now if this turns out to be true then I'll eat crow but at least get your denials correct.
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Maybe they were good enough to win anyway. Cheating when he was gong to win anyway is what got Nixon in trouble.
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The video of Altuve isn't reason to charge him with a stabbing. But its reason to investigate him on the possibility. But your view that presently having insufficient evidence to convict means no investigation. Last edited by Brad K; 01-19-2020 at 08:51 PM. |
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01-19-2020, 09:18 PM | #194 |
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I don't think MLB wants any of the publicity to begin with. If the Astros cheated in 2019 MLB doesn't want to find new evidence it just makes the league look bad. If you an outside independent investigators I am confident more would come up if this was done completely outside.
The Astros are going to be roundly greeted at every stadium they go to on the road. It will be interesting to watch. I am a Yankees fan so it will nice not to be the main villian. |
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Not a court of law. I said he may be telling the truth but I dont believe him. I dont need evidence to not believe him. |
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You are saying you don't have evidence AND don't need it. You DO have evidence. Not enough for proof. But you do have evidence. Not enough to say you don't believe. But enough to be skeptical. But then to say to don't need evidence for an opinion... yes you do despite the apparent increase in the numbers of people in the court of public opinion who think otherwise. Last edited by Brad K; 01-19-2020 at 11:22 PM. |
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01-19-2020, 11:27 PM | #198 |
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It is most evident in the home run video Altuve has something to hide. Could be anything.
For example, say he got a new tatoo and wants to surprise his wife with in private, not having her see it in public first. Maybe despite her nagging he was wearing a dirty undershirt. Maybe he has some wounds from the professional dominatrix he visited the day before. Or maybe he's wearing a communication device that tells him what pitch is coming. While I don't consider the video proof, I challenge someone to come up with a more reasonable explanation than hiding a communication device. |
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The commissioner needs to go. He's a failure. The owners love him, though, so that probably won't happen. Attendance keeps falling. He says he didn't know about the juice. The baseball juiced up. I don't believe him. He saw what steroids did for the sport. With everyone interested and following the chases of Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, etc. He thought the more livelier ball would do the same as balls sailed out of sight at a pace never before seen. Yet, attendance drops. He needs to go. His ideas for speeding up the game aren't working. He took his eye off the ball. He should have been more focused on cheating and the attendance. How did this cheating sandal go on so long? Didn't anybody think it was kind of weird people banging on garbage cans? Commissioner should resign.
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Evidence may help give it more weight but it is not mandatory in all cases. I do need evidence if i state that my opinion is true. You do not need evidence to suspect a spouse is cheating. It may help your case but you are still entitled to your own opinion. Now whether you dont mind sleeping on the couch is where the evidence is needed. Even then i dont think it would help in that case. |
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