1st & 3rd base coaches

RubeBaker · 09-23-2016, 10:20 PM

I think it's long overdue that we had 1st & 3rd base coaches. For the 1st base coach, it'd be cool to have an option where you could check to see if it was a good time to steal or he could give you a tip like "this team's catcher has a cannon-I wouldn't recommend stealing a base." The 1st base coach's ratings would also have an impact on your team's stolen base success, baserunning, aggressiveness, etc.

Likewise, the 3rd base coach's ratings could have an impact on your team's defensive ratings. He could also give you a tip like "this would be a good time to bring the infield in" or recommend putting on the shift, etc.

Thoughts?

RchW · 09-23-2016, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RubeBaker

I think it's long overdue that we had 1st & 3rd base coaches. For the 1st base coach, it'd be cool to have an option where you could check to see if it was a good time to steal or he could give you a tip like "this team's catcher has a cannon-I wouldn't recommend stealing a base." The 1st base coach's ratings would also have an impact on your team's stolen base success, baserunning, aggressiveness, etc.

Likewise, the 3rd base coach's ratings could have an impact on your team's defensive ratings. He could also give you a tip like "this would be a good time to bring the infield in" or recommend putting on the shift, etc.

Thoughts?

How much of an impact should a coach have on a bad team vs a good team?

RubeBaker · 09-24-2016, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

How much of an impact should a coach have on a bad team vs a good team?

It all depends on the type of coach.

RchW · 09-24-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RubeBaker

It all depends on the type of coach.

Except that coaches are generally only as good as the team they play for. Nobody talks about how good the Kansas City coaches and manager are this year. We will hear how great the Red Sox coaches and manager are despite being lousy last year.

Number4 · 09-25-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Except that coaches are generally only as good as the team they play for. Nobody talks about how good the Kansas City coaches and manager are this year. We will hear how great the Red Sox coaches and manager are despite being lousy last year.

Huh? As a Red Sox follower, I think our coaching is a BIG part of our success on the base paths.
The Red Sox Have Been the Best Base-Stealing Team Ever | FanGraphs Baseball

There should be a new category of "base coach", with values for "helping steals" used if coaching first and "sending runners" used if coaching third, as well as an aggression rating.

LouGerig_IronHorse · 09-26-2016, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RubeBaker

I think it's long overdue that we had 1st & 3rd base coaches. For the 1st base coach, it'd be cool to have an option where you could check to see if it was a good time to steal or he could give you a tip like "this team's catcher has a cannon-I wouldn't recommend stealing a base." The 1st base coach's ratings would also have an impact on your team's stolen base success, baserunning, aggressiveness, etc.

Likewise, the 3rd base coach's ratings could have an impact on your team's defensive ratings. He could also give you a tip like "this would be a good time to bring the infield in" or recommend putting on the shift, etc.

Thoughts?

Agreed! Would love to see this added in. There is a pretty cool clip on YouTube from the 1974 World Series between the Dodgers and the A's - Tommy Lasorda was the third base coach for Walter Alston in those days - Lasorda was mic'd for one of the games - and the clip shows him chatterboxing like crazy with the third base umpire as well as signalling and shouting out instructions and encouragement to the team.

So the idea of having first and third base coaches who could be interactive in the game would add a ton to the realism when managing a game live. Would very much love to see that added!

mitchkenn · 09-27-2016, 02:51 PM

having more coaches sounds like a good idea to some users, and possibly would add to the game - if you play it out, or watch it. i don't. i simply sim my games and thus it will offer nothing but a few more coaches on the personnel list. So FOR ME, it's i don't care to see it. If it works for others, then why not make it an option and i would have no objections.

darkcloud4579 · 09-30-2016, 12:13 PM

I can't see an iota of game value these would provide.

With the coaches already in-game and probably half of players who don't even play with coaches (or scouts) I'm just not sure what value this adds, even if it's just a cosmetic change.

09-23-2016, 10:20 PM	#1
RubeBaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 640	1st & 3rd base coaches I think it's long overdue that we had 1st & 3rd base coaches. For the 1st base coach, it'd be cool to have an option where you could check to see if it was a good time to steal or he could give you a tip like "this team's catcher has a cannon-I wouldn't recommend stealing a base." The 1st base coach's ratings would also have an impact on your team's stolen base success, baserunning, aggressiveness, etc. Likewise, the 3rd base coach's ratings could have an impact on your team's defensive ratings. He could also give you a tip like "this would be a good time to bring the infield in" or recommend putting on the shift, etc. Thoughts?

09-27-2016, 02:51 PM	#7
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,853	having more coaches sounds like a good idea to some users, and possibly would add to the game - if you play it out, or watch it. i don't. i simply sim my games and thus it will offer nothing but a few more coaches on the personnel list. So FOR ME, it's i don't care to see it. If it works for others, then why not make it an option and i would have no objections. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

09-30-2016, 12:13 PM	#8
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,308 Blog Entries: 32	I can't see an iota of game value these would provide. With the coaches already in-game and probably half of players who don't even play with coaches (or scouts) I'm just not sure what value this adds, even if it's just a cosmetic change. __________________ Godfather of Fast-Sim OOTP My Mods: GMExcel 24 Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| My (outdated) market calculator & financial spreadsheets