Large universe Rules and Whatnot - Page 7

franklin_1 · 12-21-2006, 03:53 AM

Would you mind sending a copy of that to me as well?

My email is etb003@drake.edu

Thanks much.

American_Ernesider · 02-10-2007, 11:37 AM

Conn Chris:

Did you ever put your rules in a word document? I'd love to see them as I am looking at resetting up my universe and liked a lot of your ideas.

CONN CHRIS · 02-10-2007, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American_Ernesider

Conn Chris:

Did you ever put your rules in a word document? I'd love to see them as I am looking at resetting up my universe and liked a lot of your ideas.

I hadn't posted it because I wanted to edit and clean it up but let's face it - I'm never going to get to it.

Here it is in all its ugliness. I added the last bit about maintenance that I hadn't gotten to here on the board but other than that it is 22 page cut-and-paste document in need of editing. Make that badly in need of editing.

Christopher

Edit:

By the way, if someone out there actualy wants to edit it and make it a nice purty document I'd be all for it. I'd even answer any emails in the process of cleaning it up if that would help. I am not sure how clear or worthwhile it is in present form.

American_Ernesider · 02-10-2007, 01:19 PM

Wow! Thanks for getting that posted. I'm anxious to go through it and see if I can get it to work with my universe.

Getting started is always the hardest thing for me, and I realize I'm the only one really holding it back! I waver between wanting a more traditional setup (like boxing really is), a more amateur/tournament setup, a league format (with grades of talent like A, AA, AAA divisions), and almost a collegiate-type one.

Has anyone played around with any "alternate" ways of setting a universe up similar to what I mentioned above?

CONN CHRIS · 02-10-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American_Ernesider

Wow! Thanks for getting that posted. I'm anxious to go through it and see if I can get it to work with my universe.

Getting started is always the hardest thing for me, and I realize I'm the only one really holding it back! I waver between wanting a more traditional setup (like boxing really is), a more amateur/tournament setup, a league format (with grades of talent like A, AA, AAA divisions), and almost a collegiate-type one.

Has anyone played around with any "alternate" ways of setting a universe up similar to what I mentioned above?

More than one tourny has been set up in the 'Between the Ropes' forum. Also, LeeSkye ran an Olympics in his universe some time ago.

CONN CHRIS · 02-10-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke

Chris,

I fooled around with that spreadsheet so it would generate 10 TC's at a time for a specific country including which TC tamplate to use. I can't upload the file here as it is 4.5 MB but if you email me your address I will email it to you or if you're really patient I will post it at cornerwork and once the site is back up you can download it.

Cheers,
Mark

Mark:

Did you ever post this at cornerwork? I know that you emailed it to me but some dummy that I know didn't pull it from his email box before his email service went belly up (Elvis.com).

Christopher

Tomato Can · 02-21-2007, 07:25 PM

Hey Chris,

Just wanted to say thanks for all of your hard work and dedication to making this game better for all of us! Your rules and startegies have been a great benefit to me.

I do have one question. Exactly what does a fighter have to do to reach your "international" level? Do you use a certain ranking, number of fights, or what?

I realize that they fight only fighters from their region for a while in the beginning. When do they get a chance to test their mettle against other opponents from around the world?

CONN CHRIS · 02-21-2007, 08:07 PM

Nice of you to say that, thanks.

I have fighters ranked internationaly after 20 bouts. It is only when they get a world ranking that they venture out into other regions. At the moment, a fighter who never cracks the world top 75 will never face opponents out of his geographic area. I will move that number to 100 as the numbers grow within each weight class. That is already the case for the heavyweights

The first ten bouts will almost always be against stiffs. Bouts 11 to 20 will be a combination of stiffs and decent competion within their region.

American_Ernesider · 02-22-2007, 06:27 AM

Another question for you...

I think I missed something, but I wasn't clear on your initial directons about deleting all of the fighters in your database except for one (ok..I understand that...but....)

How do you start introducing the other fighters if they've been deleted? Aren't those fighters "gone?"

I'm sure there is a simple explanatin and I apologize if I missed it on your directions.

Thanks again -- I'm starting to implement a lot of those changes!

CONN CHRIS · 02-22-2007, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American_Ernesider

Another question for you...

I think I missed something, but I wasn't clear on your initial directons about deleting all of the fighters in your database except for one (ok..I understand that...but....)

How do you start introducing the other fighters if they've been deleted? Aren't those fighters "gone?"

I'm sure there is a simple explanatin and I apologize if I missed it on your directions.

Thanks again -- I'm starting to implement a lot of those changes!

That was just an explanation of how I created a separate database just for the universe. Once I created and named the new database, I wanted to import only certain fighters into it. First though, I wanted to get rid of all the fighters that load with a new DB. I found out the hard way that if you delete all fighters, you cannot import new ones into the empty database. That is why I leave one fighter, he gets deleted after I import the first batch of new fighters.

To get the fighters that I want in the universe, I export the desired fighters to a file folder from my other database(s) and then open the new DB and import them from the same folder. The export/import functions are located in the right side menu.

One other step that I do is to have a holding DB. I export/import fighters into that DB then make all changes necessary for my universe (DOB, Groups, et cetera) in that holding universe. Then I export/import them into the real universe database. With nearly 9,000 fighters in the universe, I just find that working with the rookie fighters in their own DB to make alterations is easier than dumping them in the big DB and finding/altering them there.

Ian Lord · 06-09-2007, 02:06 PM

Johnny 'Bump City' Bumphus

CONN CHRIS · 06-23-2007, 05:20 AM

I had a request for the rules that I use. Nothing special.

CONN CHRIS · 06-23-2007, 05:27 AM

Also, here is the link to the title belts used in this universe:

Link (belts created by talented folks here on our board)

gocubsgo · 06-23-2007, 06:34 PM

Thanks a lot Chris. I decided to start a new Uni using your setup in the large universe thread. So far i am very impressed it has been much easier than my current heavyweight Uni.

CONN CHRIS · 06-23-2007, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

Thanks a lot Chris. I decided to start a new Uni using your setup in the large universe thread. So far i am very impressed it has been much easier than my current heavyweight Uni.

If you have suggestions for improvement please let me know so we can adjust the word document for the next guy to use.

Christopher

Kalinik · 06-24-2007, 12:31 PM

I must say this is a very useful thread. I looked here to make my own rules for my Universe. In my opinion it's some sort of menu card for every to pick out what he/she likes. Very good job guys.

barkflex · 12-11-2007, 09:18 AM

Sorry to dig up an old one but I have a question I'd love to have answered. Very good thread by the way.

Concerning Auto Aging, I can't find the following options anywhere, I have TB2 V1.0.20, I'm starting to think it might not be included in this version.
If it is there, would somebody be kind enough to post screenshot to help me find it? If not, what version do I need? I also can't find anything about entering sub-groups. Many thanks.

- Aging

Here are the options I use for aging. This is subjective but here is what I use and like so far:

1) Go to options tab on the start screen
2) Select the aging tab (last one on right)
3) Check both boxes at the top
4) Set aging parameters - I use:
----Pre rime 1 to 4 bouts
----Prime 10 to 25
----Post prime 20 to 60
----End 10 to 20
----Retired 8 to 20
------This will give a career range of 49 to 129 fights. It seems pretty good to me so far.
5) Click 'Activate auto aging for each fighter'
6) Click 'Calculate next aging for all fighters' (You will not have to ever click this again, even when you bring in new fighters)

CONN CHRIS · 12-13-2007, 08:02 PM

If I recall, it's in options. Look to the tabs at the top, it is on the right end.

Scruff · 04-29-2008, 04:05 PM

This thread is great, wow. What a resource.

How does the 2.5 update impact this? What things can be automated now, besided the RFG? Thanks for any help.

Scruff · 05-05-2008, 08:13 PM

Just figured I'd check in again regarding version 2.5. Thanks for any help.

02-21-2007, 08:07 PM	#128
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 28,371	Nice of you to say that, thanks. I have fighters ranked internationaly after 20 bouts. It is only when they get a world ranking that they venture out into other regions. At the moment, a fighter who never cracks the world top 75 will never face opponents out of his geographic area. I will move that number to 100 as the numbers grow within each weight class. That is already the case for the heavyweights The first ten bouts will almost always be against stiffs. Bouts 11 to 20 will be a combination of stiffs and decent competion within their region. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

06-23-2007, 05:20 AM	#132
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 28,371	I had a request for the rules that I use. Nothing special. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

06-23-2007, 05:27 AM	#133
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 28,371	Also, here is the link to the title belts used in this universe: Link (belts created by talented folks here on our board) __________________ Check Out My Cards!

12-13-2007, 08:02 PM	#138
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 28,371	If I recall, it's in options. Look to the tabs at the top, it is on the right end. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

04-29-2008, 04:05 PM	#139
Scruff Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 243	Great Stuff This thread is great, wow. What a resource. How does the 2.5 update impact this? What things can be automated now, besided the RFG? Thanks for any help.

12-21-2006, 03:53 AM	#121
franklin_1 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Heartland Posts: 138	Would you mind sending a copy of that to me as well? My email is etb003@drake.edu Thanks much.

02-10-2007, 11:37 AM	#122
American_Ernesider Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 354	Conn Chris: Did you ever put your rules in a word document? I'd love to see them as I am looking at resetting up my universe and liked a lot of your ideas.

02-10-2007, 01:19 PM	#124
American_Ernesider Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 354	Wow! Thanks for getting that posted. I'm anxious to go through it and see if I can get it to work with my universe. Getting started is always the hardest thing for me, and I realize I'm the only one really holding it back! I waver between wanting a more traditional setup (like boxing really is), a more amateur/tournament setup, a league format (with grades of talent like A, AA, AAA divisions), and almost a collegiate-type one. Has anyone played around with any "alternate" ways of setting a universe up similar to what I mentioned above?

02-21-2007, 07:25 PM	#127
Tomato Can Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 426	Hey Chris, Just wanted to say thanks for all of your hard work and dedication to making this game better for all of us! Your rules and startegies have been a great benefit to me. I do have one question. Exactly what does a fighter have to do to reach your "international" level? Do you use a certain ranking, number of fights, or what? I realize that they fight only fighters from their region for a while in the beginning. When do they get a chance to test their mettle against other opponents from around the world?

02-22-2007, 06:27 AM	#129
American_Ernesider Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 354	Another question for you... I think I missed something, but I wasn't clear on your initial directons about deleting all of the fighters in your database except for one (ok..I understand that...but....) How do you start introducing the other fighters if they've been deleted? Aren't those fighters "gone?" I'm sure there is a simple explanatin and I apologize if I missed it on your directions. Thanks again -- I'm starting to implement a lot of those changes!

06-09-2007, 02:06 PM	#131
Ian Lord All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry, England. Posts: 1,814	Johnny 'Bump City' Bumphus

06-23-2007, 06:34 PM	#134
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,556	Thanks a lot Chris. I decided to start a new Uni using your setup in the large universe thread. So far i am very impressed it has been much easier than my current heavyweight Uni.

06-24-2007, 12:31 PM	#136
Kalinik Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 120	I must say this is a very useful thread. I looked here to make my own rules for my Universe. In my opinion it's some sort of menu card for every to pick out what he/she likes. Very good job guys.

12-11-2007, 09:18 AM	#137
barkflex Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 96	Sorry to dig up an old one but I have a question I'd love to have answered. Very good thread by the way. Concerning Auto Aging, I can't find the following options anywhere, I have TB2 V1.0.20, I'm starting to think it might not be included in this version. If it is there, would somebody be kind enough to post screenshot to help me find it? If not, what version do I need? I also can't find anything about entering sub-groups. Many thanks. - Aging Here are the options I use for aging. This is subjective but here is what I use and like so far: 1) Go to options tab on the start screen 2) Select the aging tab (last one on right) 3) Check both boxes at the top 4) Set aging parameters - I use: ----Pre rime 1 to 4 bouts ----Prime 10 to 25 ----Post prime 20 to 60 ----End 10 to 20 ----Retired 8 to 20 ------This will give a career range of 49 to 129 fights. It seems pretty good to me so far. 5) Click 'Activate auto aging for each fighter' 6) Click 'Calculate next aging for all fighters' (You will not have to ever click this again, even when you bring in new fighters)

05-05-2008, 08:13 PM	#140
Scruff Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 243	Just figured I'd check in again regarding version 2.5. Thanks for any help.