My Historical Sim

eck.nicholas · 04-25-2017, 11:09 PM

Well I am going to attempt to do a historical sim. I have played around with it in the past, but am going to try to run through one with a blog attached to it. The history of the league(s) will try to somewhat stay close to the real deal, with some changes to fit the OOTP model a little bit. The pre-1901 season is not historically accurate 100%, but I will try my best to do it close enough.

In 1869, the previously amateur National Association of Base Ball Players, in response to concerns that some teams were paying players, established a professional category. The Cincinnati Red Stockings were the first team to declare their intention to become fully professional. Other teams quickly followed suit. By 1871, several clubs, wanting to separate fully from the amateur association, broke away to found the National Association of Professional Base Ball Players.

Our league, the National Association (or NA from here on out) will consist of 10 teams playing a 32-game schedule.

The Chicago White Stockings, Washington Nationals, Troy Haymakers, Philadelphia Athletics, Cleveland Forest Citys, Washington Olympics, Rockford Forest City, New York Mutuals, Ft. Wayne Kekiongas, and Boston Red Stockings will take part in the first professional season of baseball in American history. First things first, the inaugural draft.

The historical logos and jersey are all thanks to txranger190. Talk about a collection he has put together. What a wonderful job well done. I encourage everyone looking to do a fictional league or historical one to check out his work.
TxRanger190

eck.nicholas · 04-25-2017, 11:31 PM

To end my start to the sim, we have the draft. I will do a quick rundown on the first three rounds, nothing to in depth since I don't know much about the early pro ball days.

Note: I randomized the draft list 7 times to allow impartiality to any one team. It was set to a serpentine style draft. After the draft (115 picks), I filled the rosters with fictional players to allow the season to play out barring an entire injury disaster.

Round 1
1. New York - Ross Barnes (SS)
2. Philadelphia - Levi Meyerle (3B)
3. Boston - Lip Pike (RF)
4. Rockford - Cal McVey (C)
5. Nationals - George Wright (SS)
6. Cleveland - Jimmy Wood (2B)
7. Ft. Wayne - Steve King (LF)
8. Olympics - John Bass (C)
9. Chicago - Ezra Sutton (C)
10. Troy - Cap Anson (3B)

No pitchers taken in the first round. Weird since the 1870s had the pitchers that could go the distance.

Round 2
1. Troy - George Hall (CF)
2. Chicago - Ed Pinkham (RF)
3. Olympics - George Zettlein (SP)
4. Ft. Wayne - Dave Eggler (CF)
5. Cleveland - Bobby Matthews (SP)
6. Nationals - Fred Treacey (CF)
7. Rockford - Dick Higham (RF)
8. Boston - Asa Brainard (SP)
9. Philadelphia - Al Spalding (SP)
10. New York - Deacon White (C)

Round 3
1. New York - Gat Stires (RF)
2. Philadelphia - Dickie Flowers (SS)
3. Boston - Bill Craver (C)
4. Rockford - Fred Waterman (3B)
5. Nationals - Bill Stearns (SP)
6. Cleveland - Fergy Malone (C)
7. Ft. Wayne - George Bechtel (RF)
8. Olympics - Joe Start (1B)
9. Chicago - Cherokee Fisher (SP)
10. Troy - Jim Foran (1B)

eck.nicholas · 04-25-2017, 11:36 PM

Tomorrow I will give a small rundown on the teams post-draft than we will have Opening Day. I will try to watch at least one game each game day while we have a small number of games.

eck.nicholas · 04-27-2017, 01:21 PM

Got a little busy with work. Won't be able to get to the rundown until Friday at the earliest.

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:04 PM

Here are the rosters (following the draft 1/1/1871)

Boston Red Stockings

Manager: Harry Wright

Top Players:
P - Asa "Count" Brainard
P - Clark Hiller
RF - Lip Pike
Top Prospects:
RF - Lip Pike (#9)
1B - Everett Mills (#41)
CF - Steve Bellan (#46)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:06 PM

Chicago White Stockings

Manager: Jimmy Wood

Top Players:
P - Cherokee Fisher
P - Noel Minor
P - Jesse Sullivan
Top Prospects:
C - Ezra Sutton (#8)
RF - Ed Pinkham (#11)
2B - Clipper Flynn (#34)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:08 PM

Chicago White Stockings

Manager: Charlie Pabor

Top Players:
P - Bobby Matthews
P - Jose Barios
2B - Jimmy Wood
Top Prospects:
P - Bobby Matthews (#7)
SS - John Radcliff (#29)
C - Harry Schafer (#37)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:10 PM

Ft. Wayne Kekiongas

Manager: Franklin Salinas

Top Players:
P - John "Lefty" McMullin
P - Amarajota Karkada
2B - Steve King
Top Prospects:
CF - Dave Eggler (#16)
RF - George Bechtel (#23)
C - Scott Hastings (#28)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:12 PM

New York Mutuals

Manager: Ryan Brown

Top Players:
SS - Ross Barnes
P - Jake Brittany
2B - Enrique "Turkey" Sanchez
Top Prospects:
SS - Ross Barnes (#1)
C - Deacon White (#15)
RF - Gat Stires (#21)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:15 PM

Philadelphia Athletics

Manager: Dick McBride

Top Players:
P - Al Spalding
3B - "Long" Levi Meyerle
P - Elijah Perry
Top Prospects:
3B - "Long" Levi Meyerle (#2)
P - Al Spalding (#12)
SS - Dickie Flowers (#17)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:17 PM

Rockford Forest City

Manager: Jonathan Wright

Top Players:
3B - Fred Waterman
C - Cal McVey
1B - Eduardo Chairez
Top Prospects:
C - Cal McVey (#4)
2B - Dick Higham (#18)
3B - Fred Waterman (#19)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:19 PM

Troy Haymakers

Manager: Tommie Wade

Top Players:
LF - Jim Foran
2B - Cap "Pop" Anson
CF - George Hall
Top Prospects:
2B - Cap "Pop" Anson (#5)
CF - George Hall (#18)
P - Al Pratt (#20)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:20 PM

Washington Nationals

Manager: Tommie Wade

Top Players:
CF - Fred Treacey
P - Bill Stearns
SS - George Wright
Top Prospects:
SS - George Wright (#3)
P - Bill Stearns (#13)
CF - Fred Treacey (#14)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:22 PM

Washington Olympics

Manager: Matt Craft

Top Players:
P - Dick McBride
1B - "Old Reliable" Joe Start
P - George "Charmer" Zettlein
Top Prospects:
C - John Bass (#6)
P - Dick McBride (#22)
LF - Charlie Pabor (#45)

eck.nicholas · 04-28-2017, 10:53 PM

April 1, 1871

BaseballMan · 04-29-2017, 06:56 PM

Like the uniforms

eck.nicholas · 04-30-2017, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaseballMan

Like the uniforms

I do to. I couldn't find an older style Nationals, so I used TxRangers fictional style Nationals one.

mjj55409 · 04-30-2017, 08:49 AM

You have fictional players mixed in with real ones. Intentional?

eck.nicholas · 04-30-2017, 11:00 AM

Yeah. It was intentional. It was just enough to fill the rosters, and get through the first few years of the early era. From here on out, the draft will consist of players joining in their proper first seasons.

mjj55409 · 04-30-2017, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eck.nicholas

Yeah. It was intentional. It was just enough to fill the rosters, and get through the first few years of the early era. From here on out, the draft will consist of players joining in their proper first seasons.

Ok, got it. I usually just turn off injuries for a few years.

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04-28-2017, 10:15 PM	#10
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Philadelphia Athletics Manager: Dick McBride Top Players: P - Al Spalding 3B - "Long" Levi Meyerle P - Elijah Perry Top Prospects: 3B - "Long" Levi Meyerle (#2) P - Al Spalding (#12) SS - Dickie Flowers (#17) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-25-2017, 11:09 PM	#1
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	My Historical Sim Well I am going to attempt to do a historical sim. I have played around with it in the past, but am going to try to run through one with a blog attached to it. The history of the league(s) will try to somewhat stay close to the real deal, with some changes to fit the OOTP model a little bit. The pre-1901 season is not historically accurate 100%, but I will try my best to do it close enough. In 1869, the previously amateur National Association of Base Ball Players, in response to concerns that some teams were paying players, established a professional category. The Cincinnati Red Stockings were the first team to declare their intention to become fully professional. Other teams quickly followed suit. By 1871, several clubs, wanting to separate fully from the amateur association, broke away to found the National Association of Professional Base Ball Players. Our league, the National Association (or NA from here on out) will consist of 10 teams playing a 32-game schedule. The Chicago White Stockings, Washington Nationals, Troy Haymakers, Philadelphia Athletics, Cleveland Forest Citys, Washington Olympics, Rockford Forest City, New York Mutuals, Ft. Wayne Kekiongas, and Boston Red Stockings will take part in the first professional season of baseball in American history. First things first, the inaugural draft. The historical logos and jersey are all thanks to txranger190. Talk about a collection he has put together. What a wonderful job well done. I encourage everyone looking to do a fictional league or historical one to check out his work. TxRanger190 __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves Last edited by eck.nicholas; 04-25-2017 at 11:12 PM.

04-25-2017, 11:31 PM	#2
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	To end my start to the sim, we have the draft. I will do a quick rundown on the first three rounds, nothing to in depth since I don't know much about the early pro ball days. Note: I randomized the draft list 7 times to allow impartiality to any one team. It was set to a serpentine style draft. After the draft (115 picks), I filled the rosters with fictional players to allow the season to play out barring an entire injury disaster. Round 1 1. New York - Ross Barnes (SS) 2. Philadelphia - Levi Meyerle (3B) 3. Boston - Lip Pike (RF) 4. Rockford - Cal McVey (C) 5. Nationals - George Wright (SS) 6. Cleveland - Jimmy Wood (2B) 7. Ft. Wayne - Steve King (LF) 8. Olympics - John Bass (C) 9. Chicago - Ezra Sutton (C) 10. Troy - Cap Anson (3B) No pitchers taken in the first round. Weird since the 1870s had the pitchers that could go the distance. Round 2 1. Troy - George Hall (CF) 2. Chicago - Ed Pinkham (RF) 3. Olympics - George Zettlein (SP) 4. Ft. Wayne - Dave Eggler (CF) 5. Cleveland - Bobby Matthews (SP) 6. Nationals - Fred Treacey (CF) 7. Rockford - Dick Higham (RF) 8. Boston - Asa Brainard (SP) 9. Philadelphia - Al Spalding (SP) 10. New York - Deacon White (C) Round 3 1. New York - Gat Stires (RF) 2. Philadelphia - Dickie Flowers (SS) 3. Boston - Bill Craver (C) 4. Rockford - Fred Waterman (3B) 5. Nationals - Bill Stearns (SP) 6. Cleveland - Fergy Malone (C) 7. Ft. Wayne - George Bechtel (RF) 8. Olympics - Joe Start (1B) 9. Chicago - Cherokee Fisher (SP) 10. Troy - Jim Foran (1B) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-25-2017, 11:36 PM	#3
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Tomorrow I will give a small rundown on the teams post-draft than we will have Opening Day. I will try to watch at least one game each game day while we have a small number of games. __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-27-2017, 01:21 PM	#4
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Got a little busy with work. Won't be able to get to the rundown until Friday at the earliest. __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:04 PM	#5
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Here are the rosters (following the draft 1/1/1871) Boston Red Stockings Manager: Harry Wright Top Players: P - Asa "Count" Brainard P - Clark Hiller RF - Lip Pike Top Prospects: RF - Lip Pike (#9) 1B - Everett Mills (#41) CF - Steve Bellan (#46) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves Last edited by eck.nicholas; 04-28-2017 at 10:24 PM.

04-28-2017, 10:06 PM	#6
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Chicago White Stockings Manager: Jimmy Wood Top Players: P - Cherokee Fisher P - Noel Minor P - Jesse Sullivan Top Prospects: C - Ezra Sutton (#8) RF - Ed Pinkham (#11) 2B - Clipper Flynn (#34) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:08 PM	#7
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Chicago White Stockings Manager: Charlie Pabor Top Players: P - Bobby Matthews P - Jose Barios 2B - Jimmy Wood Top Prospects: P - Bobby Matthews (#7) SS - John Radcliff (#29) C - Harry Schafer (#37) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:10 PM	#8
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Ft. Wayne Kekiongas Manager: Franklin Salinas Top Players: P - John "Lefty" McMullin P - Amarajota Karkada 2B - Steve King Top Prospects: CF - Dave Eggler (#16) RF - George Bechtel (#23) C - Scott Hastings (#28) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:12 PM	#9
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	New York Mutuals Manager: Ryan Brown Top Players: SS - Ross Barnes P - Jake Brittany 2B - Enrique "Turkey" Sanchez Top Prospects: SS - Ross Barnes (#1) C - Deacon White (#15) RF - Gat Stires (#21) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:17 PM	#11
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Rockford Forest City Manager: Jonathan Wright Top Players: 3B - Fred Waterman C - Cal McVey 1B - Eduardo Chairez Top Prospects: C - Cal McVey (#4) 2B - Dick Higham (#18) 3B - Fred Waterman (#19) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves Last edited by eck.nicholas; 04-28-2017 at 10:18 PM.

04-28-2017, 10:19 PM	#12
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Troy Haymakers Manager: Tommie Wade Top Players: LF - Jim Foran 2B - Cap "Pop" Anson CF - George Hall Top Prospects: 2B - Cap "Pop" Anson (#5) CF - George Hall (#18) P - Al Pratt (#20) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:20 PM	#13
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Washington Nationals Manager: Tommie Wade Top Players: CF - Fred Treacey P - Bill Stearns SS - George Wright Top Prospects: SS - George Wright (#3) P - Bill Stearns (#13) CF - Fred Treacey (#14) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:22 PM	#14
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Washington Olympics Manager: Matt Craft Top Players: P - Dick McBride 1B - "Old Reliable" Joe Start P - George "Charmer" Zettlein Top Prospects: C - John Bass (#6) P - Dick McBride (#22) LF - Charlie Pabor (#45) __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-28-2017, 10:53 PM	#15
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	April 1, 1871 __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves

04-29-2017, 06:56 PM	#16
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,266	Like the uniforms

04-30-2017, 08:49 AM	#18
mjj55409 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,166	You have fictional players mixed in with real ones. Intentional? __________________ FABL -- Chicago Chiefs

04-30-2017, 11:00 AM	#19
eck.nicholas Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 484	Yeah. It was intentional. It was just enough to fill the rosters, and get through the first few years of the early era. From here on out, the draft will consist of players joining in their proper first seasons. __________________ Chop On: Atlanta Braves