Official Rolen/Cubby Roster Thread - Page 3

molarmite · 06-06-2006, 04:44 PM

Just make him a free agent and if you want him on the Astros, just sign him and put him on the DL for 90 days if you want. It would accomodate everyones needs better if he was a FA instead of him being on the Astros.

toadfreak7 · 06-06-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

I don't see how you could say that it is more realistic that Clemens is on the 60day DL for the Astros. As of April 1, 2006 (which is the date of the roster set), Clemens was a FREE AGENT.

As a matter of fact, if the Astros in this game where to sign Clemens, I highly doubt it would be anywhere near $22million for one year.

So...I hope he is a free agent.

So it's more realistic for him to go to the Marlins every season? That doesn't make sense to me. This isn't like a trade. He didn't play anywhere the first two months. Since we know he wound up with the Astros, he should be put there. Besides, in Clemens mind, he probably knew in April he'd be with the Astros.

White Sox · 06-06-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by toadfreak7

So it's more realistic for him to go to the Marlins every season? That doesn't make sense to me. This isn't like a trade. He didn't play anywhere the first two months. Since we know he wound up with the Astros, he should be put there. Besides, in Clemens mind, he probably knew in April he'd be with the Astros.

The problem with both of your theories is that you're too quick to ASSUME that that is going to be the case.

toadfreak7 · 06-06-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Waninski

The problem with both of your theories is that you're too quick to ASSUME that that is going to be the case.

I'm not assuming anything. Putting Clemens on the Astros with a 90 day DL makes the set more realistic, protecting against unrealistic decisions made by the computer AI (going to KC, FLA, TB, etc.). Plus, we know that's where he went.

OTBA Team · 06-06-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

As a matter of fact, if the Astros in this game where to sign Clemens, I highly doubt it would be anywhere near $22million for one year.

Maybe you're right about 2006. In OOTP 6 and 6.5 he'd probably sign for $30 Million.

attackemu · 06-06-2006, 05:19 PM

Will the roster set include correct records/hall of fame?

MorseMoose · 06-06-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by toadfreak7

So it's more realistic for him to go to the Marlins every season? That doesn't make sense to me. This isn't like a trade. He didn't play anywhere the first two months. Since we know he wound up with the Astros, he should be put there. Besides, in Clemens mind, he probably knew in April he'd be with the Astros.

What if he gets traded before he plays a game with the Astros? Does Rolen/Cubbyput them on that team?

CubbyFan23 · 06-06-2006, 05:25 PM

Guys, this discussion is irrelavent. He'll be either on Houston or in free agency in the roster set, and if you don't like where he is, you can place him where you want him. We don't need to waste time arguing about something like this IMO.

CubbyFan23 · 06-06-2006, 05:26 PM

Also, could use some help -- does anyone know a place where I could find a list of positions that players in the minor leagues have played? I can find all this info for anyone who has appeared in a ML game, but for minor league lifers, its a tough one to locate.

billethius · 06-06-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Also, could use some help -- does anyone know a place where I could find a list of positions that players in the minor leagues have played? I can find all this info for anyone who has appeared in a ML game, but for minor league lifers, its a tough one to locate.

MinorLeaguebaseball.com might have fielding stats for each year.

eriqjaffe · 06-06-2006, 05:43 PM

On a lesser note, but not an entirely un-serious note...

Is Sammy Sosa going to be lurking in the FA list? Technically, he hasn't retired...

Then again, neither has Rickey Henderson.

CubbyFan23 · 06-06-2006, 05:44 PM

Look who you're talking to! You better believe it!

eriqjaffe · 06-06-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

Look who you're talking to! You better believe it!

Sweet! I can't wait to see how many more SBs Rickey can rack up!

Oh, wait, you were talking about Sammy.

GForce · 06-06-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

The only issue I see with placing Clemens as a FA is a team like Florida, Tampa, etc. could sign him when IRL there is a 0% chance of this happening...

True, but if you're doing finances for the teams, Clemens' ratings would make his signing demands out of the bounds of those teams. If you guys aren't doing finances, then I can see the argument for putting him on Houston.

Either way, really not a big deal. People can move him very easily from wherever you guys put him.

GH

CubbyFan23 · 06-06-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

True, but if you're doing finances for the teams, Clemens' ratings would make his signing demands out of the bounds of those teams. If you guys aren't doing finances, then I can see the argument for putting him on Houston.

Either way, really not a big deal. People can move him very easily from wherever you guys put him.

GH

Yeah I can see your point, and thought about that when I posted that, planning on having accurate financials in there... however, most likely that would mean a team like Florida WOULD have cash to spend (since I think their payroll is about $58.25) and I'd just rather avoid seeing him end up there as it kind of kills the illusion of reality there for me.

Either way, I gotta get back to cracking on this set!

MorseMoose · 06-06-2006, 05:58 PM

How can you release a guy without having the contract hit on the team?

So...it is much easier to add Clemens to the 'stros than releasing him from the 'stros.

CubbyFan23 · 06-06-2006, 06:09 PM

You can just edit him to have his contract = Minor League Contract and release him.

MVela20 · 06-06-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

True, but if you're doing finances for the teams, Clemens' ratings would make his signing demands out of the bounds of those teams. If you guys aren't doing finances, then I can see the argument for putting him on Houston.

Either way, really not a big deal. People can move him very easily from wherever you guys put him.

GH

COMPLETELY agree...furthermore, you could use one of the great features of OOTP that further injects reality into the game (no, not steroids) by making his "Desire for Winning Team" close to 100!!

Looking forward to the roster set, Erich and CF!!!

Slapstick · 06-06-2006, 06:37 PM

Not to distract you from the already beaten to death topic again, but is there any ETA on the rosters? I am just curious. I know that they take a lot of time and I don't want it to sound like I am getting impatient. I am just curious. I am trying to plan if I will be spending the entire weekend in my underwear blocking out my wife's yelling or if I will actually have to do some items from the "Honey Do" list.

BURNS1981 · 06-06-2006, 06:46 PM

This poor horse has been beat into dog food about now dont ya agree.

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CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Guys, this discussion is irrelavent. He'll be either on Houston or in free agency in the roster set, and if you don't like where he is, you can place him where you want him. We don't need to waste time arguing about something like this IMO.

06-06-2006, 05:26 PM	#49
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Also, could use some help -- does anyone know a place where I could find a list of positions that players in the minor leagues have played? I can find all this info for anyone who has appeared in a ML game, but for minor league lifers, its a tough one to locate.

06-06-2006, 05:44 PM	#52
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Look who you're talking to! You better believe it!

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MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Blog Entries: 4 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	How can you release a guy without having the contract hit on the team? So...it is much easier to add Clemens to the 'stros than releasing him from the 'stros.

06-06-2006, 06:09 PM	#57
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	You can just edit him to have his contract = Minor League Contract and release him.

06-06-2006, 06:37 PM	#59
Slapstick Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16	Not to distract you from the already beaten to death topic again, but is there any ETA on the rosters? I am just curious. I know that they take a lot of time and I don't want it to sound like I am getting impatient. I am just curious. I am trying to plan if I will be spending the entire weekend in my underwear blocking out my wife's yelling or if I will actually have to do some items from the "Honey Do" list.

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BURNS1981 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 19	This poor horse has been beat into dog food about now dont ya agree.