Advice needed: 2B or SP?

Sam_15 · 06-13-2018, 02:37 PM

So I recently started an MLB expansion team set up in Charlotte. Have had the first overall pick twice now (shocker). I drafted this guy with the first overall pick in 2020, strictly based off of his prowess as a second baseman.

However, upon checking on his progress a few weeks later, I discovered that the minor league managers were using him not only at second base, but at starting pitcher. What??

I was confused, until I saw his potential as a starter. This kid has front-of-the-rotation stuff in addition to being a stud hitter.

So, I'm looking for advice. Should I try developing him into just a second baseman, just a pitcher, or take a risk and bring him up as a two-way player? I'm torn.

Here are his ratings. I turned scouting off for this, just so you guys get as clear of a picture as possible. These are his true ratings.

Westheim · 06-13-2018, 02:42 PM

I am inclined to say second base, although that *is* some nice stuff. But if he doesn't fully reach his control potential, it might also be a lot of nice stuff for the bin.

GoPedro99 · 06-13-2018, 02:45 PM

id say let him do both until he reaches like A+ or AA. then make a decision based on development

ThePretender · 06-13-2018, 03:13 PM

2b

MisterTidster · 06-13-2018, 03:32 PM

Any time you get a SS or 2b with exceptional offensive and defensive stats, treat them like gold. They’re extremely rare, a great offensive asset that makes your other pitchers better.

OldFatGuy · 06-13-2018, 06:09 PM

Starting Pitcher for now... then if he doesn't develop switch to 2B. Pitching wins in baseball, always has. And besides, how can you go wrong with a starting pitcher named Maddox?

sc_superstar · 06-13-2018, 11:40 PM

Yeah let him go as a two way, at least in the minors and then base it off your team needs/development. If his arm develops I would be inclined to let him start and have him DH/PH a few days a week to get the bat in the lineup

NoOne · 06-13-2018, 11:59 PM

yeah, that's a hof batter with health and ages gracefully. can't say that 100% for sure on the SP side.

has his velocity improved since the draft or just "94-96" entire time? approaching 21+ and so that starts to dwindle, of course. if it has been ticking up, it may not be done.

he's got 3 pitches that are likely to develop. so not too concerned about the 1 lagging.

is there a penalty to development for letting them be a 2-way player? i'm sure there's only a minimal cost to playing time which is only 1 of many factors. can always push this decisions down the road.

jimmysthebestcop · 06-14-2018, 03:24 AM

I would try both until he develops more. But I probably put like a 50 pitch count limit on him. Just to try and avoid injury.

cmaug · 06-14-2018, 04:25 PM

How does he have a 40 grade infield arm while being 94-96 off the mound?

jimmysthebestcop · 06-14-2018, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmaug

How does he have a 40 grade infield arm while being 94-96 off the mound?

Maybe accuracy?

Rosco Peabody · 06-16-2018, 10:22 AM

Definitely develop him as a two way player and see what happens to his ratings.

I had a guy who was an 80/80 POT as both a CF and a SP when I first drafted him (picture my delight), but as I developed him in the minors, his CF POT stayed at 80/80 while his SP POT dropped more to 48/80. I still use his as both, but while he is a Silver Slugger level CF, he is a bottom of the rotation arm at best.

06-13-2018, 02:37 PM	#1
Sam_15 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 252	Advice needed: 2B or SP? So I recently started an MLB expansion team set up in Charlotte. Have had the first overall pick twice now (shocker). I drafted this guy with the first overall pick in 2020, strictly based off of his prowess as a second baseman. However, upon checking on his progress a few weeks later, I discovered that the minor league managers were using him not only at second base, but at starting pitcher. What?? I was confused, until I saw his potential as a starter. This kid has front-of-the-rotation stuff in addition to being a stud hitter. So, I'm looking for advice. Should I try developing him into just a second baseman, just a pitcher, or take a risk and bring him up as a two-way player? I'm torn. Here are his ratings. I turned scouting off for this, just so you guys get as clear of a picture as possible. These are his true ratings. Attached Images

06-13-2018, 02:42 PM	#2
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 11,905	I am inclined to say second base, although that is some nice stuff. But if he doesn't fully reach his control potential, it might also be a lot of nice stuff for the bin. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 83 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

06-13-2018, 06:09 PM	#6
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,867	Starting Pitcher for now... then if he doesn't develop switch to 2B. Pitching wins in baseball, always has. And besides, how can you go wrong with a starting pitcher named Maddox? __________________ I believed in drug testing a long time ago. In the 60's I tested everything. - Bill Lee

06-16-2018, 10:22 AM	#12
Rosco Peabody All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,092	Definitely develop him as a two way player and see what happens to his ratings. I had a guy who was an 80/80 POT as both a CF and a SP when I first drafted him (picture my delight), but as I developed him in the minors, his CF POT stayed at 80/80 while his SP POT dropped more to 48/80. I still use his as both, but while he is a Silver Slugger level CF, he is a bottom of the rotation arm at best. __________________ . Been playing since OOTP '08 Avatar is a picture of me drawn by one of my students a few years ago (My real name is not Rosco, nor do I live anywhere near Peabody)

06-13-2018, 02:45 PM	#3
GoPedro99 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 857	id say let him do both until he reaches like A+ or AA. then make a decision based on development

06-13-2018, 03:13 PM	#4
ThePretender All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,303	2b

06-13-2018, 03:32 PM	#5
MisterTidster Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 39	Any time you get a SS or 2b with exceptional offensive and defensive stats, treat them like gold. They’re extremely rare, a great offensive asset that makes your other pitchers better.

06-13-2018, 11:40 PM	#7
sc_superstar Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 407	Yeah let him go as a two way, at least in the minors and then base it off your team needs/development. If his arm develops I would be inclined to let him start and have him DH/PH a few days a week to get the bat in the lineup

06-13-2018, 11:59 PM	#8
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	yeah, that's a hof batter with health and ages gracefully. can't say that 100% for sure on the SP side. has his velocity improved since the draft or just "94-96" entire time? approaching 21+ and so that starts to dwindle, of course. if it has been ticking up, it may not be done. he's got 3 pitches that are likely to develop. so not too concerned about the 1 lagging. is there a penalty to development for letting them be a 2-way player? i'm sure there's only a minimal cost to playing time which is only 1 of many factors. can always push this decisions down the road.

06-14-2018, 03:24 AM	#9
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,728 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	I would try both until he develops more. But I probably put like a 50 pitch count limit on him. Just to try and avoid injury.

06-14-2018, 04:25 PM	#10
cmaug Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 344	How does he have a 40 grade infield arm while being 94-96 off the mound?