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08-26-2014, 07:47 AM | #161 |
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It it so depressing/funny/ridiculous/sad/amazing (take your pick, I can't decide right now) that this discussion is going on once again.
Interestingly enough some different people are now leading this discussion, but they are still sayin the same things I/we have said over the last year or so. And with that I go back to my hiding place where I've been for the last five months, shaking my head and waiting for anything to change here. Sadly: No progress. |
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Jeff has provided that update.
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08-26-2014, 10:49 AM | #164 |
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It's always better to provide updates when the community starts questioning what's going on, when the last update previously from OOTP seemingly seemed to be the at the end of July almost one month ago, by Sebastien...Now that we have another update from Jeff, we can wait another 2-3 weeks before questioning what's going on again...That's when someone needs to take look and let us know...Before it gets outta hand again.... Or..try the silence route and see what happens...Anyhow keep up the hard good work.
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Wait.. That was an update..
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I think i'm done waiting. That last 'update' is far too shady for my liking and hints at purposely holding off information. I doubt (like many) that i'll be buying another product from OOTP. |
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However, what more can Jeff or the other devs do? They've been honest throughout. Yes, there have been some overly ambitious targets/features promised that haven't yet been delivered, BUT if Jeff says that releasing more info may delay things further then I'm sure there's a good reason for that. I don't think it's fair to say either Dave or Jeff are simply towing the party line. They're just trying to give the users at least some form of update. Jeff/Sebastian/Malte could equally just have ignored the recent posts in here or just made something up - but they didn't. That said, I do wish OOTP would learn not to over-promise and under-deliver. Promising x number of updates per week or that FHM 15 would be released in October seemed ambitious to many the moment these promises were posted. This really doesn't help things. But equally, nor does it help to throw accusations around (hence I tend to ignore the public forum - I find it a largely aggressive place to visit).
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This product is way behind where it should be after nearly a year. A patch and a new version are now going to be delayed. Some communication and a bit of real honesty is all people are asking for and as customers and potential buyers of future versions should expect. Last edited by Penfold75; 08-26-2014 at 06:04 PM. |
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08-26-2014, 06:10 PM | #170 |
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Well I'm very satisfied now with the recent dialogue... I can wait longer knowing what's going on...It might not be where we'd like it to be but it's getting there now we just gotta wait. We can wait another 2-3 Weeks I think but we'll need to keep informed about it in that time. I suggest another update about it in 2-3 weeks...We can speculate and talk about it but we got our update on what's going on. We don't need another for now...
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08-26-2014, 06:13 PM | #171 |
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Stupid and idiotic eh? Well, you're entitled to your opinion. If posting screenshots of something that might not even make it into the final patch strikes you as a good idea, who am I to argue?
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Actually we know nothing at all. All we have to go on is the product itself, what they sell us, which has improved very little over two years. Eventually hope has to turn to reality and see what is actually been manifested. The best predictor of future behavior is past behaviour. Asking for updates or communication is long gone. That was asked for 8 months ago with little response. People should be asking "show us specifically what you are doing so we can decide ourselves if this game will really improve, or will just be promises that washed away in the wind." |
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Yes he has. My point is that I think things would have gone a lot smoother on this forum if Jeff or someone had been doing that all along, letting people in on what's been going on on a regular bi-weekly basis. But that's old news by now. There were a few efforts along that line, but they always petered out. At this point it's probably unrealistic to expect anything different from the established norm.
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I'm privy to the reasons for the current delay, and I can confirm that what Jeff wrote is the extent of what can be said right now. We wish we could be more forthcoming but we can't. It's as simple as that.
We knew Jeff's post would likely cause more frustration, but we also felt it was better than continuing to say nothing. It really is a "between a rock and a hard place" kind of situation, and I don't know if we'll ever be able to fully explain the reasons for the delay. |
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I think that to offer no explanation is treating the people who have invested money and time since the beta stages of this game in a pretty disrespectful manner and certainly not a way that I would conduct myself as an IT professional. What you will do with this cloak and dagger form of non-communication is isolate your users and lose potential and/or new customers for the next version. |
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08-26-2014, 07:36 PM | #179 |
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I kinda wish there was a timetable or something...Like when is the new FHM 15 going to be released? Three months? The patch should be out next week? 2 weeks? one month? 2 months? The final patch after the patch we've been waiting for? 2 months? The hockey season Starts soon. What a perfect time to sell the game! Unless...They're doing another roster update on the current version? That would take very long indeed...oh well...wait and see what happens.
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08-26-2014, 08:01 PM | #180 |
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There isn't one person here that doesn't want a release date. But at the other end none of us want anything rushed. We saw what happened last time that happened. It was a disaster. This community was not a good place to be and rightfully so. The one thing for certain is that I know these guys are not giving up on the game. They take a lot of heat but they keep working away.
In the end, we all want the same thing. We just have to wait longer than anyone wanted for it.
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