Parade of the Tomato Cans - Page 9

mikehoudini · 10-08-2007, 11:37 AM

Hi Bear,

Inadvertently I've been doing some pearl gathering on boxrec, but not very scientific. I pulled up various heavyweights, and did some of the things you mentioned, like looking at debut fights, then drilling down on fighters with losing records. I have about a 16 page Word document laying out the records and other info (who they beat and lost to), and have quite a few guys listed, and many more that I have yet to put inro Word.

Some of the fighters are well-known (e.g. Danny Wofford), but Danny did send a few guys into retirement! I haven't created anything from the TC templates, as I still am a relative newcomer.

If you'd like, I can post some of them in your thread, or start a new one. I do know that I have spent many a lunch hour driiling down on boxrec, and know the work effort involved.

Thanks! Mikehoudini

bear · 10-09-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikehoudini

Hi Bear,

Inadvertently I've been doing some pearl gathering on boxrec, but not very scientific. I pulled up various heavyweights, and did some of the things you mentioned, like looking at debut fights, then drilling down on fighters with losing records. I have about a 16 page Word document laying out the records and other info (who they beat and lost to), and have quite a few guys listed, and many more that I have yet to put inro Word.

Some of the fighters are well-known (e.g. Danny Wofford), but Danny did send a few guys into retirement! I haven't created anything from the TC templates, as I still am a relative newcomer.

If you'd like, I can post some of them in your thread, or start a new one. I do know that I have spent many a lunch hour driiling down on boxrec, and know the work effort involved.

Thanks! Mikehoudini

Mike
If you create any TCs using templates for guys you find in Boxrec this is a good place to post them. My only worry would be the possible duplication of work. Like you I've been spending lunch times creating lists of potential guys.

Bear

mikehoudini · 10-16-2007, 10:20 PM

Hi Bear,

I haven't actually created any tomato cans, as I don't feel that confident with my ability to do so. I have 110 or so fighters (mainly heavyweights)documented in a Word document, with their records and some commentary (with many more fighters printed out but not put into the document). I'd be happy to send that to you and see if you think it is of value, then I could parse some posts about my list.

I started it just as information-gathering, and maybe it could be turned into information-sharing. It has been laborious but very interesting, and I sometimes go down so many levels that it's hard to get back to my original fighter. I was amazed to see how some fighters padded their records, fighting the same sets of tomato cans 3 and sometimes 4 times.

Again, I'd be happy to send you the word document for your review and comment. Gotta get back to the Sox/Indians game!

mikehoudini

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:01 PM

Zimbabwe heavies Bonyongo Destroyer and Jukebox Timebomb were mentioned in another thread as desired TCs. While working on them I also found a few others.

Bonyongo Destroyer
1989-1998
Global ID 33987
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
alias John Mutema
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 6 (KO 6) + drawn 0 = 6

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:04 PM

Sando First Son the Devil
1978
Global ID 240383
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 1
lost a prelim on points

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:07 PM

Bucks Schumi
1970-1970
Global ID 141770
sex male
division heavyweight
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 1
South Africa ?

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:13 PM

Hitler The Killer
1977-1982
Global ID 240316
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 2 (KO 2) + drawn 0 = 2

The fighter that adopted this ringname suffered two ko losses. With the choice of this ring name I feel they were deserved so I used the worst possible template for this guy.

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:14 PM

Mauriste Moses Zikalala
1963-1970
Global ID 139419
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality South Africa
won 1 (KO 1) + lost 4 (KO 3) + drawn 1 = 6

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:16 PM

Elisha Kanyeala
1985
Global ID 240384
sex male
division heavyweight
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 1
Zimbabwe ?
lost to Jukebox Timebomb

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:18 PM

Jefita Jamaica
1978
Global ID 240347
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 1

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:19 PM

Wonder Boy Zaka Madziwa
1961-1967
Global ID 139672
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 1 (KO 1) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 0 = 4

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:20 PM

Rocky Diamond
1977-1983
Global ID 102603
sex male
division light heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 7 (KO 3) + drawn 0 = 7

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:22 PM

George Foreman
1983-1987
Global ID 176132
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
alias Foreman Makachunga
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 6 (KO 5) + drawn 0 = 6

To avoid confusion I named him George Foreman Makachunga

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:24 PM

Mike Foreman
1996
Global ID 240561
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 1
lasted 20 seconds in only roxrec recorded bout

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:25 PM

Wild Mhere
1988-1992
Global ID 82868
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 1 (KO 1) + lost 4 (KO 3) + drawn 0 = 5

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:27 PM

Mathews Chembe
1989-1990
Global ID 239290
sex male
division cruiserweight
nationality Zambia
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 3 (KO 3) + drawn 0 = 3

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:28 PM

Matthews Zulu
1993-1994
Global ID 47376
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zambia
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 4 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 4

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:31 PM

Tarzan City Guy
1966-1969
Global ID 121954
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zambia
residence Ndola, Zambia
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 2 (KO 1) + drawn 1 = 3
1 tko loss, 1 DQ, and a draw

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:32 PM

Kelvin Sitali
1998
Global ID 348290
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zambia
won 0 (KO 0) + lost 1 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 1
lost only bout to an 0-2 fighter

Bear

bear · 12-02-2007, 10:34 PM

And the man everyone's been waiting for:

Jukebox Timebomb
1985-1991
Global ID 176131
sex male
division heavyweight
nationality Zimbabwe
won 2 (KO 2) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 0 = 5

Bear

10-08-2007, 11:37 AM	#161
mikehoudini All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Catonsville, MD Posts: 1,213	Hi Bear, Inadvertently I've been doing some pearl gathering on boxrec, but not very scientific. I pulled up various heavyweights, and did some of the things you mentioned, like looking at debut fights, then drilling down on fighters with losing records. I have about a 16 page Word document laying out the records and other info (who they beat and lost to), and have quite a few guys listed, and many more that I have yet to put inro Word. Some of the fighters are well-known (e.g. Danny Wofford), but Danny did send a few guys into retirement! I haven't created anything from the TC templates, as I still am a relative newcomer. If you'd like, I can post some of them in your thread, or start a new one. I do know that I have spent many a lunch hour driiling down on boxrec, and know the work effort involved. Thanks! Mikehoudini

10-16-2007, 10:20 PM	#163
mikehoudini All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Catonsville, MD Posts: 1,213	Hi Bear, I haven't actually created any tomato cans, as I don't feel that confident with my ability to do so. I have 110 or so fighters (mainly heavyweights)documented in a Word document, with their records and some commentary (with many more fighters printed out but not put into the document). I'd be happy to send that to you and see if you think it is of value, then I could parse some posts about my list. I started it just as information-gathering, and maybe it could be turned into information-sharing. It has been laborious but very interesting, and I sometimes go down so many levels that it's hard to get back to my original fighter. I was amazed to see how some fighters padded their records, fighting the same sets of tomato cans 3 and sometimes 4 times. Again, I'd be happy to send you the word document for your review and comment. Gotta get back to the Sox/Indians game! mikehoudini