BZ 1798: Sequence problem in year-by-year listing

sfnate · 07-28-2008, 06:29 PM

(Apologies for the duplicate posting; I put this in General first, then figured it was better off here)

Much of the pleasure I get from playing this game is browsing the stats. Like just about everyone else. So it's a bit surprising to me that I've not seen any comments on my favorite pet peeve, the out-of-sequence formatting of the year-by-year stats. Here's what I mean:

Say a player on Team A is released or traded or whatever in year 1900. He joins up with another team that same year. In his stats, it would look like this:

1900 Athletics
1900 Giants

Looking at this, you know that he started the year with the Athletics, then moved to the Giants. I can see this at a glance. The ordering gives me that information.

Now let's say he leaves the Giants mid-season in 1901, and re-joins the Athletics, maybe because he's homesick. You'd expect to see this:

1900 Athletics
1900 Giants
Total 1900
1901 Giants
1901 Athletics
Total 1901

Again, I can see the sequence at a glance. I don't need to figure the sequence out by reviewing other data in his profile.

So here's my pet peeve: too often in the game I see something like this:

1900 Athletics
1900 Giants
Total 1900
1901 Athletics
1901 Giants
Total 1901

So I'm looking at this, I'm not intimately familiar with the player's history, and I'm thinking, "Did he start the year with the Athletics, then move back to the Giants; or did he start with the Giants and go to the Athletics?"

This is a nitpick, I know, but it drives me crazy. If you look at Baseballreference.com, you can see that they do this right: you know at a glance what the sequence is. I like that. I don't like having to look around in the player file to find out what the sequence is. It's another unnecessary step to have to take.

Is there a way to force the game to do this correctly, so that this gem of a game can be that much better, especially for people like me who tend to spend HOURS reviewing stats?

Am I the only person who has noticed this?

Thanks for your time guys, I got it off my chest now.

tcblcommish · 07-28-2008, 06:46 PM

This is something that has bugged me forever also...

tcblcommish · 07-30-2008, 06:38 PM

BZ # 1798

Sorry, forgot to add that

sfnate · 01-06-2009, 05:21 PM

Since this is still an open issue, and hasn't made the cut for the last couple of updates, I assume no fix will be forthcoming. Pity. Fixing this would make reading the stat pages so much easier/enjoyable--and stats stats stats is what this game is (in large part) about.

If anyone can speak to why this fix can't be made, it would help me to let go of any lingering hope I have that something might eventually be done.

Nutlaw · 01-06-2009, 05:35 PM

This was marked as something to be addressed at a later time (for a later version of the game), so there's still hope, but not for OOTP 9.

sfnate · 01-06-2009, 06:00 PM

Thanks, Nutlaw, for the update. When and if the fix ever comes, I will be the first to loudly proclaim its arrival.

07-28-2008, 06:29 PM	#1
sfnate Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corner of 16th and Bryant Streets Posts: 296	BZ 1798: Sequence problem in year-by-year listing (Apologies for the duplicate posting; I put this in General first, then figured it was better off here) Much of the pleasure I get from playing this game is browsing the stats. Like just about everyone else. So it's a bit surprising to me that I've not seen any comments on my favorite pet peeve, the out-of-sequence formatting of the year-by-year stats. Here's what I mean: Say a player on Team A is released or traded or whatever in year 1900. He joins up with another team that same year. In his stats, it would look like this: 1900 Athletics 1900 Giants Looking at this, you know that he started the year with the Athletics, then moved to the Giants. I can see this at a glance. The ordering gives me that information. Now let's say he leaves the Giants mid-season in 1901, and re-joins the Athletics, maybe because he's homesick. You'd expect to see this: 1900 Athletics 1900 Giants Total 1900 1901 Giants 1901 Athletics Total 1901 Again, I can see the sequence at a glance. I don't need to figure the sequence out by reviewing other data in his profile. So here's my pet peeve: too often in the game I see something like this: 1900 Athletics 1900 Giants Total 1900 1901 Athletics 1901 Giants Total 1901 So I'm looking at this, I'm not intimately familiar with the player's history, and I'm thinking, "Did he start the year with the Athletics, then move back to the Giants; or did he start with the Giants and go to the Athletics?" This is a nitpick, I know, but it drives me crazy. If you look at Baseballreference.com, you can see that they do this right: you know at a glance what the sequence is. I like that. I don't like having to look around in the player file to find out what the sequence is. It's another unnecessary step to have to take. Is there a way to force the game to do this correctly, so that this gem of a game can be that much better, especially for people like me who tend to spend HOURS reviewing stats? Am I the only person who has noticed this? Thanks for your time guys, I got it off my chest now.

07-28-2008, 06:46 PM	#2
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,435	This is something that has bugged me forever also...

07-30-2008, 06:38 PM	#3
tcblcommish Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 3,435	BZ # 1798 Sorry, forgot to add that

01-06-2009, 05:21 PM	#4
sfnate Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corner of 16th and Bryant Streets Posts: 296	Since this is still an open issue, and hasn't made the cut for the last couple of updates, I assume no fix will be forthcoming. Pity. Fixing this would make reading the stat pages so much easier/enjoyable--and stats stats stats is what this game is (in large part) about. If anyone can speak to why this fix can't be made, it would help me to let go of any lingering hope I have that something might eventually be done.

01-06-2009, 05:35 PM	#5
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	This was marked as something to be addressed at a later time (for a later version of the game), so there's still hope, but not for OOTP 9.

01-06-2009, 06:00 PM	#6
sfnate Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corner of 16th and Bryant Streets Posts: 296	Thanks, Nutlaw, for the update. When and if the fix ever comes, I will be the first to loudly proclaim its arrival.