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Old 02-06-2020, 02:46 PM   #1
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Where would you put teams?

I have started a dynasty in OOTP 20, and I have the following teams in its version of the American Baseball Federation:

Eastern League:

Atlantic City Gamblers (Atlantic City, New Jersey)
Baltimore Terrapins (Baltimore, Maryland)
Chattanooga Choo-Choos (Chattanooga, Tennessee)
Cleveland Spiders (Cleveland, Ohio)
Cooperstown Legends (Cooperstown, New York)
Florida Flamingos (Miami, Florida)
Georgia Peaches (Atlanta, Georgia)
New Orleans Crescents (New Orleans, Louisiana)

Western League:

California Angels (Anaheim, California)
Houston Railmen (Houston, Texas)
Kansas City Diesels (Kansas City, Missouri)
Minnesota North Stars (Bloomington, Minnesota)
Nevada Heat (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Portland Pioneers (Portland, Oregon)
St. Louis Archers (St. Louis, Missouri)
San Diego Friars (San Diego, California)

I would only like some suggestions for locations minor league teams could be in for the above franchises, and I only want to use sixteen locations for the top minor league level teams, please. I won't likely need a second level of minors just yet, however.

I will search the forums for teams I don't have sets for, of course. Thank you for your time and attention and all. CD out.
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:01 PM   #2
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Give AAA franchises to the big markets you've ignored for MLB, NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:23 PM   #3
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New York and certain other places will come later, for the next major league that will be added to the relevant dynasty. I want to save those places for that major league, if possible, I think.

I was thinking about creating a version of MLB or a similar league circa 1876 to perhaps compete against the ABF. But I'm not quite sure yet just where to place certain teams yet for said league setup, when I do.

It is likely, however, that most of the areas covered by the ABF teams will not have representation initially when this second major league is created, if not all those areas. I would, however, like to start this league's minor league farm system within the next couple of seasons, at most. I started this league with the 1870 season, so that I'd be able to have historical players start playing in the mix beginning with the 1871 season.

It is now just past the All-Star Break in the 1872 season for the ABF. It shouldn't be long before there are enough players in the sixteen present organizations to warrant the creation of the first level of minors for them, I think.

Any input you people can provide for my consideration would be most appreciated, for sure. Thank you for your time and all, Brad K. CD out.
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Old 02-06-2020, 11:58 PM   #4
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Atlantic City-Camden or Newark
Baltimore-Frederick or Hagerstown
Cleveland-Akron or Canton
Cooperstown-Albany or Rochester
Florida-Tampa or Orlando
Georgia-Macon
Chattanooga-Knoxville
New Orleans-Baton Rouge or Shreveport

California-Fresno
Houston-Beaumont
Kansas City-Omaha
Minnesota-Milwaukee
Nevada-Reno
Portland-Spokane
St.Louis-Springfield or Peoria
San Diego-Tijuana

BTW, in the interest of historical accuracy I'm not sure that Las Vegas even existed in 1872. I'm just saying.
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Thank you, Buster Cherry. I'll consider your suggestions here a good deal, for sure, before I make a final decision on where to put the needed teams. CD out.
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New York and certain other places will come later, for the next major league that will be added to the relevant dynasty. I want to save those places for that major league, if possible, I think.
I thought you excluded those markets because you didn't want any mega market teams.
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The Los Angeles area is a major market area now, at least, but may not have been at the time in question, of course. Several of those areas are rather populated now, but weren't then, I'm sure.

I have plans for certain major cities to definitely have teams in this dynasty, but I don't plan to create the second overall major league in it until the 1875-76 offseason, at the earliest. If not also a third major league as well in North America, around that timeframe, more or less.

I'm not entirely sure yet just what I'd call the first top-level minor league (with applicable subleagues) under the American Baseball Federation. But I'm still trying to figure out where to put the teams, and hoping I'll be able to find some suitable enough sets either here or on my computers for various teams, et cetera, just the same. For instance, I was thinking of perhaps calling one subleague the Temple Division, and the other the Church Division. Or I might save those names for later use elsewhere, of course.

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Old 02-07-2020, 03:16 AM   #8
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By the way, does anyone have a full set of caps and jerseys for the Nevada Heat besides RBLwebguy? I have at least two, if not all, of the related logos, but have not been able to find the appropriate caps and uniforms to go along with them here on the forums just yet, unfortunately, it seems. If so, I'd appreciate it a whole lot if they could please share them here in this thread, with RBLwebuy's permission and all, of course. CD out.
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When is the best time, often, to add new teams/leagues to a dynasty? I will be coming up to the 1875-76 offseason in one of my existing OOTP 20 dynasties before too much more time passes, for sure. And I'd like to know, so that if I need to transfer clubs from one league to another, I can do so with less of a problem, especially if I want to move one or more existing teams into any number of new leagues?

For instance, in this dynasty, I will likely put the existing California Angels into one of the yet-to-be-created new leagues, probably the MLB one, or MLB-like one, and replace them in the relevant existing league here, once I move them to a different league. And when I do transfer a team, what will happen to their histories, whether team or league-related? What would happen with the draft-related matters, if they would be placed in a different league? I don't necessarily want to shrink the size of the league that any team may come from, when they are transferred to a different league, of course.

And I don't want to use promotion and relegation in certain cases here, either, to better facilitate team transfers from one league to another, to be sure, you see. So any help and advice any of you might be able to provide would certainly be much appreciated, for sure, folks.

Hope any of you can let me know how to handle such things here, of course. Thank you in advance if you can. May you all have good days and all, folks, if and when you see this here, Lord willing. CD out.
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- Any time in the off-season is fine. I do my team/league changes Jan 1.

- I have never changed a team into a separate league, only division. But the team history page should retain the history from the other league,
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Any other thoughts from anyone else here? Please advise, if and when you like, folks. Thank you. CD out.
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i'm lazy and re-use existing teams. then, you don't have to make the logos and pick the colors etc. it won't even matter if it is Rookie or AAA in real life. just pick some out if you like the mascot.

if you want to keep it regional, stick to that, otherwise travel isn't a dynamic in ootp. you don't have to worry if a AAA player has to go around half the world for a call up.

100% fictional, pick some rural areas.. keep the kids away from the party cities? plus, reminds me of bull durham (movie).

anyone notice fogerty has clearly never played baseball by his lyrics? or, possibly just creative necessity?
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Chose the following farm teams for the above teams, but don't yet have all the necessary logos and jerseys and caps yet downloaded and all. Will have them soon, I think, though, if I don't already have them by now.

Columbian Interstate Baseball Association (New Triple A-level league for ABF)

Colonial League:

Akron Apes (Cleveland Spiders)
Alexandria Possums (Atlantic City Gamblers)
Annapolis Corsairs (Baltimore Terrapins)
Cape Coral Hammerheads (Florida Flamingos)
Little Rock Rascals (Georgia Peaches)
Murfreesboro Marmots (Chattanooga Choo-Choos)
Rochester Roosters (Cooperstown Legends)
Waco Wackos (New Orleans Crescents)

Sunset League:

Carson City Lords (Nevada Heat)
Fresno Fury (California Angels)
Long Beach Titans (San Diego Friars)
Lubbock Stampede (Houston Railmen)
Midland Hoodlums (Kansas City Diesels)
Milwaukee Mudfish (Minnesota North Stars)
Peoria Power (St. Louis Archers)
Tacoma Squids (Portland Pioneers)

Most of the new minor league teams' items will most likely be ones that low created some good length of time ago or has just created, but not all of them will be, I think. All currently-needed items have now been downloaded. I may also need league-related logos later, of course, but we'll have to see. If so, then I will certainly post a request in the appropriate part of the forums, for sure, and try to keep it as simple as possible, everyone.

Thank you all for your input here, and I might just create a thread for my Turtle Pilgrim 001 dynasty and its related leagues in the appropriate part of the forums very soon. Please feel free to drop by anytime you like and all, once I do. Within reason and all, of course, folks. CD out.
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If I were you I would change the nicknames of every one of your minor league teams EXCEPT Annapolis (Corsairs fits with city's naval heritage), Cape Coral (for some reason I like Hammerheads nickname), Fresno (Fury fits), Long Beach (At least you didn't choose Beach Bums or Surfers), and Peoria (Power, like Fury with Fresno, fits with Peoria). How in the world did you come up with the likes of Midland Hoodlums, Milwaukee Mudfish, and Alexandria Possums?

Now I realize it's your league and if you're comfortable with these nicknames (and I assume you must be since you chose them) then by all means go ahead and use them. Just giving you my two cents here. Good luck and have fun.
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I have started a dynasty in OOTP 20, and I have the following teams in its version of the American Baseball Federation:

Eastern League:

Atlantic City Gamblers (Atlantic City, New Jersey)
Baltimore Terrapins (Baltimore, Maryland)
Chattanooga Choo-Choos (Chattanooga, Tennessee)
Cleveland Spiders (Cleveland, Ohio)
Cooperstown Legends (Cooperstown, New York)
Florida Flamingos (Miami, Florida)
Georgia Peaches (Atlanta, Georgia)
New Orleans Crescents (New Orleans, Louisiana)

Western League:

California Angels (Anaheim, California)
Houston Railmen (Houston, Texas)
Kansas City Diesels (Kansas City, Missouri)
Minnesota North Stars (Bloomington, Minnesota)
Nevada Heat (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Portland Pioneers (Portland, Oregon)
St. Louis Archers (St. Louis, Missouri)
San Diego Friars (San Diego, California)

I would only like some suggestions for locations minor league teams could be in for the above franchises, and I only want to use sixteen locations for the top minor league level teams, please. I won't likely need a second level of minors just yet, however.

I will search the forums for teams I don't have sets for, of course. Thank you for your time and attention and all. CD out.
Maybe I'm late but my suggestions are:

Vegas for AC
Montreal for Baltimore
Rochester, NY or somewhere in Maryland for the Choo-Choo's
Indianapolis for Cleveland
Somewhere in Alaska (Anchorage?) for Cooperstown
Lincoln, Nebraska for the Flamingos
Nashville, TN for the GA Peaches
Hicksville, NY for New Orleans

California Angels? Orlando or Tampa.
Sweet Home Alabama for the Railmen
Mexico City for the Diesels
Chicago or the suburbs of Chicago for the Minnesota North Stars
Los Angeles or Coastal California for the Vegas team
Seattle or somewhere in Washington for Portland
How about Albuquerque, NM for St. Louis call-ups??
San Antonio for San Diego.

Hope this was of great help!
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In the relevant dynasty, I have now added two more major league setups, one being Major League Baseball and the North American Baseball Association, with eight teams each. Please see below, for where the related teams are located.

National League:

Boston Braves
Brooklyn Dodgers
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
New York Giants
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
St. Louis Cardinals

Union League:

Augusta Colonials
Birmingham Stallions
Boston Pilgrims
Brooklyn Robins
Charleston Miners
Kentucky Colonels
Nashville Blue Sox
Washington Generals

The 1876 regular season has just started for the major leagues, and the CIBA will be starting very soon. The ABF started with the 1870 season, and it uses random debut appearances. As will the other two major leagues already mentioned.

I don't yet know when the ABF will need another minor league and/or level, though. Might be needed within five to ten seasons, though?

Will keep the above suggestions in mind for team locations, and will scour the forums for any suitable items I don't already have or don't make or can't make, as time permits and all. Thank you for your input and all, everyone. I will try to start a suitable enough dynasty thread once I am finally able to finish writing the current chapter of my latest story. Please stay tuned for more information later. CD out.
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If I were you I would change the nicknames of every one of your minor league teams EXCEPT Annapolis (Corsairs fits with city's naval heritage), Cape Coral (for some reason I like Hammerheads nickname), Fresno (Fury fits), Long Beach (At least you didn't choose Beach Bums or Surfers), and Peoria (Power, like Fury with Fresno, fits with Peoria). How in the world did you come up with the likes of Midland Hoodlums, Milwaukee Mudfish, and Alexandria Possums?

Now I realize it's your league and if you're comfortable with these nicknames (and I assume you must be since you chose them) then by all means go ahead and use them. Just giving you my two cents here. Good luck and have fun.
As I said, I am using a good number of low's items for various teams in this dynasty, at least for the minor league teams. And I thought of cities that he's done items for, and which were generally fairly close to their parent teams' locations, where possible and all, as best as I could, et cetera.

I tried to stay close to their parent teams' locations, and generally tried to use names with already-made items related to them. While some of the names may not be ones I'm totally satisfied with here, to be honest, the names chosen should suffice at least for a while, for each team, I think. If not a long while, at that.

I don't know yet just when more minor leagues and/or teams under the ABF will be needed in-game. But I still wouldn't and don't expect to create them until at least the 1880-1881 offseason, if not later, folks.

If and when I'm able to get to sometime around the 1900 timeframe in this dynasty, MLB will gain the American League, while the NABA will gain the Victory League. By then, I'm not sure if the ABF will expand or be joined in the dynasty by at least one more major league, just yet.

Much is yet to be determined and all here for the now-existing leagues in the relevant dynasty. In any case, I will continue to keep an eye out for new team-related items here on the forums, if I don't actually make them myself, for sure. If I don't make them, I'll probably grab them as I like and can, and all, of course.

Thank you all for your time and all, folks. Take care, then, I hope, everyone, Lord willing. CD out.
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The relevant dynasty now has the Tea and Coffee Union in existence, and it's a bit past halfway through its first season. I will need another minor league for the ABF, but I have not yet decided what to call it, and what level of minor league it will be. Leaning towards making it a Double A-level league, however.

Any suggestions you all might have for possible team locations and/or league/subleague names would be most appreciated, for sure. Just point me to logical enough locations, at least, and I'll do the rest as best as I can. Thank you. CD out.
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Please excuse the length of this post, everyone. But it is necessary, I think, for you to fully understand how things are for the American Baseball Federation and its minor league setup as they stand at the time of the 1877 ABF All-Star Game. I am trying to figure out how to expand the relevant organizations' minor league systems logically enough, but I'm not quite sure where the required new teams should be or what they should be called, just yet, unfortunately. Perhaps a number of you might have some good ideas on how I can do that better and easier, I hope.

Current configuration of the applicable ABF-related leagues:

Eastern League:

Atlantic City Gamblers (Atlantic City, New Jersey)
Baltimore Terrapins (Baltimore, Maryland)
Chattanooga Choo-Choos (Chattanooga, Tennessee)
Cleveland Spiders (Cleveland, Ohio)
Cooperstown Legends (Cooperstown, New York)
Florida Flamingos (Miami, Florida)
Georgia Peaches (Atlanta, Georgia)
New Orleans Crescents (New Orleans, Louisiana)

Western League:

California Angels (Anaheim, California)
Houston Railmen (Houston, Texas)
Kansas City Diesels (Kansas City, Missouri)
Minnesota North Stars (Bloomngton, Minnesota)
Nevada Heat (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Portland Pioneers (Portland, Oregon)
St. Louis Archers (St. Louis, Missouri)
San Diego Friars (San Diego, California)

Minor League System (Only one level at present, but more will become necessary later, I'm sure. Locations in parentheses and team's parent club in brackets):

Colonial League:

Akron Apes (Akron, Ohio) [Cleveland Spiders)
Alexandria Possums (Alexandria, Virginia) [Atlantic City Gamblers]
Annapolis Corsairs (Annapolis, Maryland) [Baltimore Terrapins]
Cape Coral Hammerheads (Cape Coral, Florida) [Florida Flamingos]
Little Rock Rascals (Little Rock, Arkansas) [Georgia Peaches]
Murfreesboro Marmots (Murfreesboro, Tennessee) [Chattanooga Choo-Choos}
Rochester Roosters (Rochester, New York) [Cooperstown Legends]
Waco Wackos (Waco, Texas) [New Orleans Crescents]

Sunset League:

Carson City Lords (Carson City, Nevada) [Nevada Heat]
Fresno Fury (Fresno, California) [California Angels]
Long Beach Titans (Long Beach, California) [San Diego Friars]
Lubbock Stampede (Lubbock, Texas) [Houston Railmen]
Midland Hoodlums (Midland, Texas) [Kansas City Diesels]
Milwaukee Mudfish (Milwaukee, Wisconsin) [Minnesota North Stars]
Peoria Power (Peoria, Illinois) [St. Louis Archers]
Tacoma Squids (Tacoma, Washington) [Portland Pioneers]

Now here is where it gets tricky. I would like to create a Double A-level league, but I'd also prefer to try to avoid putting teams too close to other places where teams already exist or are likely to exist very soon. I will list a few possibilities I am considering, and I'd like your opinions on the places and team names I suggest. Most, if not all, of these places and/or team names are likely from low's current main thread, if memory serves me correctly here, just so you know.

For Atlantic City's next affiliate, I'm currently considering the Hampton Marauders and the Visalia Sequoias, from Virginia and California respectively.

For Baltimore's next affiliate, Chula Vista Terrapins or Augusta Decapods, from California or Maine, respectively.

For California's next affiliate Moreno Valley Dreamers (CA) or Albany Chiefs (NY)

For Chattanooga's next affiliate Sterling Heights Howlers (MI) or Austin Rustlers (TX)

For Cleveland's next affiliate Savannah Saber Tooths, although I might want it to be Sabertooths later, in Georgia, or Chandler Firebirds (AZ)

For Cooperstown's next affiliate, Syracuse Choppers (NY) or Lowell Legends (MA).

For Florida's next affiliate New Haven Humpbacks (CT) or Jacksonville Sharks (FL)

For Georgia's next affiliate Orange Juice (CA) or Macon Gledes (GA) or Henderson Defenders (NV)

For Houston's next affiliate, El Paso Mavericks (TX) or Beaumont Mocs <Which I might want to be the Mockingbirds> (TX) or Abilene Roughnecks (TX)

For Kansas City's next affiliate, Fort Worth Cowboys (TX) or Rockford Hot Rods (IL) or Bakersfield Oilers (CA)

For Minnesota's next affiliate Bridgeport Navigators (CT) or Winnipeg Frostbite (MB)

For Nevada's next affiliate Tucson Flames (AZ) or Cheyenne Rattlers (WY)

For New Orleans' next affiliate Shreveport Cranes (LA) or Napierville Nightwings (IL) or Joliet Jesters (IL)

For Portland's next affiliate Overland Park Hunters (KS) or Columbia Black Cats (SC)

For St. Louis's next affiliate Edison Scholars (NJ) or Lakewood Archers (CO)

For San Diego's next affiliate Des Moines Monks (IA) or Pomona Friars (CA)

Some of these names may work, of course, but some of these prospective teams are probably far too close to other teams, or where other teams will eventually play out of in time.

I'm probably already pushing it right now with the Friars' minor league team quite close to Anaheim where the Angels are based, for instance. And even though I'm sure that the LA area can support several teams in it, minor league or not, I really would like to avoid potentially oversaturating any location needlessly with minor league teams, at least, if possible, folks.

So if you don't think any of the above locations and/or team nicknames work well, please feel free to suggest possible alternative locations/team nicknames I could use in the next minor league for the ABF's current organizations, if and when you like and can. Thank you all very much for your time, in any case. CD out.
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