3D issues?

tward13 · 07-02-2019, 03:28 PM

I played out quite a few games and reported what seemed like minor 3D issues when the ame first came out.

Then I got into my online leagues and mostly simmed.

I just started a new game to play out my teams games and it seems, SSS, that the 3D is much worse than earlier this year.

Runner movements, fielder actions, etc

Line drive hit to the LF and he holds it so the runner gets a double.

Bunt that goes past the mound but the catcher fields it.

Two outfielders standing around in RC so the runner can round second and cruise in for a triple.

This is all in a handful of games. Also, things that were going to be corrected, like runners tagging from second on DEEP flies to RF or runners scoring from second with two outs. Not fixed.

What happened?

tward13 · 07-02-2019, 03:50 PM

Also, that box coming up that asks about allowing the runner to try advancing, still flashes then shows the result on the field rather than the play. I thought that was being resolved?

tward13 · 07-03-2019, 11:13 AM

Nothing?

No one else is havng issues or have we given up for this year. It hinestly seems as bad as release day.

Reed · 07-03-2019, 12:51 PM

OK, I will play.
Either you were very lucky early on or I was very unlucky because my experience is the opposite of yours. Early on, the baseballs and fielders were constantly disappearing in the outfield walls, outfielders would throw the ball 20 feet over the catchers head, the 1st baseman would fire hard instead of tossing the ball to the pitcher covering 1st, pitcher would throw the ball 15 feet outside for an intentional walk, etc..
Play for me seems to be much smoother although I agree there is still work to be done. In fact, many of the current items you list, I have seen also in the past month.
My suggestion, go to the technical section of the forum and post your bugs under the animation thread, there is a format to use so they can recreate your issue but it is easy to do. I think only 2 or 3 people do that consistently.
With time, they will get these bugs worked out.

PocketsAintFull · 07-03-2019, 03:00 PM

Also, I think when some of the odd stuff happens, eg. the fielder standing holding the ball, it's the 3D timing of the play being off, rather than the fielder actually doing nothing, if you follow.

tward13 · 07-03-2019, 04:39 PM

I follow, but that's my complaint. With the 3D.

It makes watching the 3D play out not very realistic.

PocketsAintFull · 07-03-2019, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tward13

I follow, but that's my complaint. With the 3D.

It makes watching the 3D play out not very realistic.

That's fair. I do think it's gradually improving, at least imo.

sdw1000 · 07-03-2019, 05:52 PM

That's why I went back to 2D...the 3-D animations drive me nuts...

DreamTeams · 07-04-2019, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sdw1000

That's why I went back to 2D...the 3-D animations drive me nuts...

Same here.

sdw1000 · 07-04-2019, 06:36 AM

Well, to be honest, the 2-D is acting just as stupid. I set the ballpark locations. They are all set. Things go well for while then I hit the space bar once and they relocate themselves. So now I have the CF 408 wall marker at Yankee Stadium at about 2B....I just can't win.

EDIT: so I checked it in a exhibition game and the locations were back to being correct. Strange..

DreamTeams · 07-04-2019, 12:11 PM

Did you make sure that the locations were set the same for both day and night game images? Some games switch from day to night during the game and if the locations are not set the same (for both) it will switch those, as well.

curt · 07-04-2019, 06:30 PM

I can tolerate the 3D, it's a work in progress. To me, it beats 2D. I can't go back to 2D.

David Watts · 07-04-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by curt

I can tolerate the 3D, it's a work in progress. To me, it beats 2D. I can't go back to 2D.

Just the opposite here. Every year I try 3D. It takes too long to play out a game and I lose interest around the 5th inning of the second game. I quickly realize why I despised Micro League Baseball. I crank things back to 2D classic and I'm happy as can be.

Reed · 07-04-2019, 08:09 PM

I play in spectator mode and now when I try to play 2d, I find myself frequently pressing the space bar without paying any attention to the screen/game. Pressing the space bar became just a habit. With 3d I always watch the play, even if it is quirky sometimes.

Fredrocker · 07-04-2019, 08:09 PM

If you go to my websites in sig and look under util 3d replay you can watch games from first release ootp 20 to the latest..

I agree with Tom... it is tough to take in... though its gettin better

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

mtopham · 07-04-2019, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdw1000

That's why I went back to 2D...the 3-D animations drive me nuts...

I wish I could go back to 2D, but any choice other than Modern 3D instantly crashes the game for me...

What really bugs me about 3D in v20 is the pitchers wind-ups - They Take SO LONG...

David Watts · 07-04-2019, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reed

I play in spectator mode and now when I try to play 2d, I find myself frequently pressing the space bar without paying any attention to the screen/game. Pressing the space bar became just a habit. With 3d I always watch the play, even if it is quirky sometimes.

I play spectator mode as well. I use very short pbp instant and for the most part just pay attention to the play result. Some games actually offer result only and in the end that's all I need. Groundout 6-3, single to left etc.

Reed · 07-05-2019, 06:33 AM

Instead of 2D or 3D,
What I would like to see is something like a scoresheet where with 1 click you could go half inning by half inning or inning by inning. That way you could see a whole game in a couple minutes or less and it would be easy to play out a season that way. That would be cool IMO.
I guess it would be a little bit like looking at the game log but I hate the game log.

zappa1 · 07-05-2019, 09:30 AM

3D all the way for me. Especially with my new graphics card. Old card was at it's end.

David Watts · 07-05-2019, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reed

Instead of 2D or 3D,
What I would like to see is something like a scoresheet where with 1 click you could go half inning by half inning or inning by inning. That way you could see a whole game in a couple minutes or less and it would be easy to play out a season that way. That would be cool IMO.
I guess it would be a little bit like looking at the game log but I hate the game log.

A too prefer a scoresheet to the game log. Currently I'm Eugene Churching games daily. I fast sim each game to the end of the 6th inning. I then watch innings 7-9 and any extra innings. Started doing this to slow myself down a little. I usually just pick one game per day to watch and this allowed me to move quickly through a season. Churching each game slows me down some, but I'm getting to know my league a lot better.

07-02-2019, 03:28 PM	#1
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,957	3D issues? I played out quite a few games and reported what seemed like minor 3D issues when the ame first came out. Then I got into my online leagues and mostly simmed. I just started a new game to play out my teams games and it seems, SSS, that the 3D is much worse than earlier this year. Runner movements, fielder actions, etc Line drive hit to the LF and he holds it so the runner gets a double. Bunt that goes past the mound but the catcher fields it. Two outfielders standing around in RC so the runner can round second and cruise in for a triple. This is all in a handful of games. Also, things that were going to be corrected, like runners tagging from second on DEEP flies to RF or runners scoring from second with two outs. Not fixed. What happened?

07-03-2019, 03:00 PM	#5
PocketsAintFull All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,771	Also, I think when some of the odd stuff happens, eg. the fielder standing holding the ball, it's the 3D timing of the play being off, rather than the fielder actually doing nothing, if you follow. __________________

07-04-2019, 06:36 AM	#10
sdw1000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SC USA Posts: 862 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Well, to be honest, the 2-D is acting just as stupid. I set the ballpark locations. They are all set. Things go well for while then I hit the space bar once and they relocate themselves. So now I have the CF 408 wall marker at Yankee Stadium at about 2B....I just can't win. EDIT: so I checked it in a exhibition game and the locations were back to being correct. Strange.. Last edited by sdw1000; 07-04-2019 at 07:21 AM.

07-04-2019, 12:11 PM	#11
DreamTeams Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,521	Did you make sure that the locations were set the same for both day and night game images? Some games switch from day to night during the game and if the locations are not set the same (for both) it will switch those, as well. __________________ Last edited by DreamTeams; 07-04-2019 at 03:25 PM.

07-02-2019, 03:50 PM	#2
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,957	Also, that box coming up that asks about allowing the runner to try advancing, still flashes then shows the result on the field rather than the play. I thought that was being resolved?

07-03-2019, 11:13 AM	#3
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,957	Nothing? No one else is havng issues or have we given up for this year. It hinestly seems as bad as release day.

07-03-2019, 12:51 PM	#4
Reed All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,938	OK, I will play. Either you were very lucky early on or I was very unlucky because my experience is the opposite of yours. Early on, the baseballs and fielders were constantly disappearing in the outfield walls, outfielders would throw the ball 20 feet over the catchers head, the 1st baseman would fire hard instead of tossing the ball to the pitcher covering 1st, pitcher would throw the ball 15 feet outside for an intentional walk, etc.. Play for me seems to be much smoother although I agree there is still work to be done. In fact, many of the current items you list, I have seen also in the past month. My suggestion, go to the technical section of the forum and post your bugs under the animation thread, there is a format to use so they can recreate your issue but it is easy to do. I think only 2 or 3 people do that consistently. With time, they will get these bugs worked out.

07-03-2019, 04:39 PM	#6
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,957	I follow, but that's my complaint. With the 3D. It makes watching the 3D play out not very realistic.

07-03-2019, 05:52 PM	#8
sdw1000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SC USA Posts: 862 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	That's why I went back to 2D...the 3-D animations drive me nuts...

07-04-2019, 06:30 PM	#12
curt Major Leagues Join Date: May 2013 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 456	I can tolerate the 3D, it's a work in progress. To me, it beats 2D. I can't go back to 2D.

07-04-2019, 08:09 PM	#14
Reed All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,938	I play in spectator mode and now when I try to play 2d, I find myself frequently pressing the space bar without paying any attention to the screen/game. Pressing the space bar became just a habit. With 3d I always watch the play, even if it is quirky sometimes.

07-04-2019, 08:09 PM	#15
Fredrocker Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Winchester, KY Posts: 449	If you go to my websites in sig and look under util 3d replay you can watch games from first release ootp 20 to the latest.. I agree with Tom... it is tough to take in... though its gettin better Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

07-05-2019, 06:33 AM	#18
Reed All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,938	Instead of 2D or 3D, What I would like to see is something like a scoresheet where with 1 click you could go half inning by half inning or inning by inning. That way you could see a whole game in a couple minutes or less and it would be easy to play out a season that way. That would be cool IMO. I guess it would be a little bit like looking at the game log but I hate the game log.

07-05-2019, 09:30 AM	#19
zappa1 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,873	3D all the way for me. Especially with my new graphics card. Old card was at it's end.