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08-09-2014, 02:14 PM
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1943-02-19 Madison Square Garden, New York part 2
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. California Jackie Wilson Marvin Bryant vs. Sonny Horne Joe Carter vs. Johnny Seaman Gus Coen Levine vs. Victor Resto Bernie Bernard vs. Clyde English Bobby Gunther vs. Eddie Dowl
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-09-2014, 02:38 PM
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1943-02-26 Olympia Stadium, Detroit, Michigan
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Jake LaMotta Frankie Best vs. Charley Hayes Gilbert Stromquist vs. Dan Merritt Johnny Ryan vs. Pete Mead Gus Coen Levine vs. Eddie Scott
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-18-2014, 03:51 PM
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1943-04-30 Boston Garden, Boston, Massachusetts
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Freddie Cabral Jackie Caparell vs. Freddie Wilson George 'Red' Doty vs. Phil Norman Gus Coen Levine vs. Jimmy Paraggio Johnny Cesario vs. Billy White
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-18-2014, 03:53 PM
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1943-07-01 Boston Garden, Boston, Massachusetts part 1
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Ralph Zannelli Steve Kronis vs. Joey Edwards Al Francis vs. Tommy Burnett Warren Jones vs. Tony Taranto Sammy Garcia vs. Gus Coen Levine Clem Crowley vs. Johnny Coe
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-18-2014, 03:55 PM
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1943-07-01 Boston Garden, Boston, Massachusetts part 2
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Ralph Zannelli Steve Kronis vs. Joey Edwards Al Francis vs. Tommy Burnett Warren Jones vs. Tony Taranto Sammy Garcia vs. Gus Coen Levine Clem Crowley vs. Johnny Coe
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-18-2014, 03:58 PM
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1943-08-27 Madison Square Garden, New York
Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Henry Armstrong Lew Hanbury vs. Gus Coen Levine Izzy Jannazzo vs. Cecil Hudson Steve Kronis vs. Aaron Seltzer Ham Wiloby vs. Davey Crawford Danny Martin vs. Carlos Morin That's Robinson's 46th contest and the last until his Army days end.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-20-2014, 02:48 PM
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I love this series of rating all of the fighters on an old historical card.
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08-20-2014, 06:40 PM
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Despite barely make a dent in the Robinson replay I've already got eyes on Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles and Willie Pep down the road. They'll be some time before the next card as I'm focusing on finishing off rating each Welterweight who was included in The Ring Magazine groupings for 1941.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-20-2014, 07:28 PM
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Interesting Boxers Stumbled Upon part 1
John Budinich, 1902-1915. Pioneer in Chile and Cuba. Del Fontaine, 1925-1935. Canadian Middleweight Champion hung in England for murder.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-20-2014, 07:40 PM
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Discovered a birth date for Curley St Angelo. 1920-09-14.
Haven't posted new file with it added, but information now there for those who wish to add it themselves.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-21-2014, 06:54 PM
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Are these the extensive rankings in the Ring's February issue or 1941 top ten?
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08-22-2014, 01:51 AM
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Trying not to put a deadline on it but once complete going to plunge straight into 1942's rankings whilst attempting to press on with Robinson's cards.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson Last edited by bob_bask; 08-22-2014 at 01:58 AM. Reason: Font type and size |
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08-22-2014, 10:45 AM
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Discovered a birth date for Bobby Gunther. 1922-05-15.
Also his height is 5' 8". Haven't posted new file with it added, but information now there for those who wish to add it themselves.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-22-2014, 02:13 PM
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Discovered a birth date for Phil Norman. 1920-02-03.
Haven't posted new file with it added, but information now there for those who wish to add it themselves.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-22-2014, 02:33 PM
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Discovered a birth date for Gus Coen Levine. 1922-12-27.
Levine featured on 13 of Robinson's cards. The two were boyhood friends who both learnt at Salem Crescent A.C. In 1953 Levine was a bartender at Robinson's Harlem tavern when he was arrested for selling undercover narcotic agents 30 ounces of heroin. Haven't posted new file with it added, but information now there for those who wish to add it themselves.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-22-2014, 05:58 PM
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08-24-2014, 02:53 PM
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The Ring Magazine 1941 Welterweight Group Rankings part 1
I believe 1942 (for 1941) was the first time the publication detailed such extensive rankings. I'll list those created with a note of group ranking. Mike Kaplan - Group 1 Arthur Danahar - Group 3 Tony Marteliano - Group 3 Yussell Goldstein - Group 4 Jack Larrimore - Group 4
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson Last edited by bob_bask; 08-24-2014 at 03:08 PM. |
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08-24-2014, 02:56 PM
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The Ring Magazine 1941 Welterweight Group Rankings part 2
All from Group 4.
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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08-24-2014, 02:57 PM
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The Ring Magazine 1941 Welterweight Group Rankings part 3
All from Group 4.
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08-24-2014, 02:59 PM
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The Ring Magazine 1941 Welterweight Group Rankings part 4
Saverio Turiello - Group 4 Alan Westbury - Group 4 Ramiro Alamgro - Group 5 Dewey Anderson - Group 5 Hockey Bennell - Group 5
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"I occasionally agreed to carry an opponent, almost always in what is known as a tune-up fight. I never considered it morally wrong as long as I was winning the fight. I was never a killer, like some fighters. I never enjoyed knocking out a guy who I knew had no chance to beat me." Sugar Ray Robinson |
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