"What if" Time Machine - Round 2

majesty95 · 05-29-2014, 12:47 AM

We are wrapping up the first round of the "What if" Time Machine sim. As I have been simming, I have been debating on what to do next. There was some interest in a second round of the sim so I'm going to continue it. I'm actually going to do four rounds!

The first three rounds are going to be set up just like Round 1 - Pick a non-playoff team from history (1946 and up) and then choose 2 players from your team's history (past or future) not currently on the roster to import to your team. After the first three rounds are completed, I am going to take the 24 playoff teams (8 from each round) and put them in a league to determine the grand champion!

So, this thread will be for team/player selection of Round 2. Again, you can choose any team that did not make the playoffs between 1946 and 2013 (1994 is ineligible due to not having playoffs). However, teams and players chosen in Round 1 will not be allowed. For instance, I took the 1992 Twins with 1969 Harmon Killebrew and 2004 Johan Santana. That means that the 1992 Twins are off the board. Also, any person choosing the Twins cannot take Harmon KIllebrew or Johan Santana. BUT, another franchise for which those players played could use them (ie the Mets and Santana).

Here is a list of the teams and players taken in Round 1 that are no longer eligible:

1980 Baltimore Orioles - 83 Cal Ripken - 66 Frank Robinson
2011 Boston Red Sox - 00 Pedro Martinez - 41 Ted Williams
2005 Cleveland Indians - 53 Al Rosen - 72 Gaylord Perry
1969 Detroit Tigers - 87 Alan Trammell - 13 Miguel Cabrera
1979 Kansas City Royals - 89 Bo Jackson - 94 David Cone
1979 Houston Astros - 94 Jeff Bagwell - 97 Craig Biggio
1992 Minnesota Twins - 69 Harmon Killebrew - 2004 Johan Santana
1985 New York Yankees - 99 Mariano Rivera - 58 Whitey Ford
2004 Oakland A's - 32 Jimmie Foxx - 90 Dennis Eckersley
2003 Seattle Mariners - 95 Randy Johnson - 97 Ken Griffey, Jr.
1993 Texas Rangers - 79 Buddy Bell - 74 Ferguson Jenkins
1987 Toronto Blue Jays - 03 Roy Halladay - 93 Roberto Alomar

2007 Atlanta Braves - 59 Hank Aaron - 95 Greg Maddux
1957 Brooklyn Dodgers - 1997 Mike Piazza - 2013 Clayton Kershaw
1969 Chicago Cubs - 29 Rogers Hornsby - 01 Sammy Sosa
1974 Cincinnati Reds - 77 Tom Seaver - 66 Frank Robinson
1997 Colorado Rockies - 10 Ubaldo Jimenez - 11 Troy Tulowitzki
2009 Florida Marlins - 96 Kevin Brown - 96 Gary Shefield
1996 Montreal Expos - 09 Ryan Zimmerman - 82 Steve Rogers
2007 New York Mets - 85 Dwight Gooden - 69 Tom Seaver
2006 Philadelphia Phillies - 72 Steve Carlton - 74 Mike Schmidt
1977 Pittsburgh Pirates - 66 Roberto Clemente - 08 Honus Wagner
2001 St. Louis Cardinals - 85 Ozzie Smith - 85 John Tudor
1993 San Francisco Giants - 08 Tim Lincecum - 62 Willie Mays

Here are the teams/players taken in Round 2: Selections Complete

2012 Arizona Diamondbacks - 99 Matt Williams - 01 Randy Johnson
2001 Chicago Cubs - 92 Greg Maddux - 58 Ernie Banks
1981 Cincinnati Reds - 01 Noodles Hahn - 61 Vada Pinson
2004 Florida Marlins - 93 Bryan Harvey - 97 Charles Johnson
1972 Houston Astros - 86 Mike Scott - 83 Dickie Thon
1982 Los Angeles Dodgers - 63 Sandy Koufax - 53 Roy Campanella
1956 Milwaukee Braves - 28 Rogers Hornsby - 96 John Smoltz
1985 New York Mets - 07 David Wright - 06 Jose Reyes
1988 Pittsburgh Pirates - 35 Arky Vaughn - 73 Wilie Stargell
1979 St. Louis Cardinals - 68 Bob Gibson - 05 Albert Pujols
1966 San Francisco Giants - 29 Mel Ott - 33 Carl Hubbell
2013 Washington Natinals - 82 Gary Carter - 97 Pedro Martinez

1975 Baltimore Orioles - 96 Brady Anderson - 92 Mike Mussina
1978 Boston Red Sox - 99 Nomar Garciaparra - 86 Roger Clemens
1990 Chicago White Sox - 15 Eddie Collins - 20 Joe Jackson
1953 Cleveland Indians - 12 Shoeless Joe Jackson - 68 Luis Tiant
1961 Detroit Tigers - 34 Charlie Gehringer - 46 Hal Hewhouser
2013 Los Angeles Angels - 72 Nolan Ryan - 90 Chuck Finley
1963 Minnesota Twins - 73 Rod Carew - 13 Walter Johnson
1954 New York Yankees - 27 Babe Ruth - 30 Lou Gehrig
2005 Oakland A's - 90 Rickey Henderson - 96 Mark McGwire
2012 Tampa Bay Rays - 10 Carl Crawford - 09 Jason Bartlett
2013 Texas Rangers - 01 Alex Rodriguez - 99 Rafael Palmeiro
2013 Toronto Blue Jays - 97 Roger Clemens - 93 Joe Carter

majesty95 · 05-29-2014, 12:48 AM

I am going to start Round 2 off with:

1985 New York Mets

07 David Wright
06 Jose Reyes

majesty95 · 05-29-2014, 01:04 AM

Actually going to allow teams from 1946 (post WWII) through 2013 (sans 1994). Just changing it from 1950 to 1946.

Fyrestorm3 · 05-29-2014, 02:24 AM

Bucky Bleeping Dent no more - I'm going with the '78 Red Sox this time around.

Adding '99 Nomar and '86 Clemens.

MarkInCincy · 05-29-2014, 06:03 AM

1981 Reds
Noodles Hahn 1901 - He's been a beast in any sim I have ever done, in any era, neutralized or real stats
1961 Vada Pinson, great yr, could have been a great player still was very good and under rated / unrecognized for the most part

shawn.woodsmall · 05-29-2014, 07:19 AM

82 dodgers
63 Koufax
53 Campanella

Hrycaj · 05-29-2014, 08:11 AM

1961 Tigers.

1934 Charlie Gehringer 2B
1946 Hal Newhouser SP

ThatSeventiesGuy · 05-29-2014, 08:20 AM

1979 Cardinals: 1968 Bob Gibson & 2005 Albert Pujols...just don't put him at 1B. Hernandez has that covered pretty well already!

Caporegime · 05-29-2014, 10:07 AM

I obviously screwed up choosing the 1985 Yankees. Time to break out the pinstriped ICBMs and end this once and for all.

1954 Yankees: Probably the best 2nd place team in history (103-51)

1927: Babe Ruth
1930: Lou Gehrig

The Babe, Mick and Iron Horse all in the same lineup...lights out.

rferry · 05-29-2014, 10:15 AM

2013 Washington Nationals with 1982 Gary Carter to replace Ramos and 1997 Pedro Martinez to replace Dan Haren.

Mike45 · 05-29-2014, 10:48 AM

Steve Bartman will sleep easy tonite.

2003 Chicago Cubs
1992 Greg Maddux
1958 Ernie Banks

EDIT
Sorry, misread. Thought it was non world series winner, not non-playoff winner.

Make it the 2001 Cubs. Same players. Bartman lives in infamy

MrWideFrame · 05-29-2014, 12:00 PM

2012 Arizona Diamondbacks
1999 Matt Williams
2001 Randy Johnson

David Watts · 05-29-2014, 02:52 PM

Glad someone else did the Tigers this time, seeing that I picked a last place finisher in round 1

BMD · 05-29-2014, 05:01 PM

1988 Pittsburgh Pirates
1935 Arky Vaughan
1973 Willie Stargell

majesty95 · 05-29-2014, 05:08 PM

Updated the Team Selections in the original post. Will be fun to watch the almighty Yankees fall

shawn.woodsmall · 05-29-2014, 06:28 PM

Like the Pittsburgh selection w Arjun Vaughn

Ruwisc · 05-29-2014, 07:14 PM

The 2001 Cardinals (picked in round 1) made the playoffs - they lost to the eventual champion D'Backs in the NLDS. You'd have to pick the '99 team or the '03 team if you want a Cardinal team from that period.

majesty95 · 05-29-2014, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruwisc

The 2001 Cardinals (picked in round 1) made the playoffs - they lost to the eventual champion D'Backs in the NLDS. You'd have to pick the '99 team or the '03 team if you want a Cardinal team from that period.

Good call. Don't know how I missed that one

24Rocks · 05-29-2014, 07:41 PM

2013 Texas Rangers 99 Rafael Palmeiro 01 Alex Rodriguez

majesty95 · 05-29-2014, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Rocks

2013 Texas Rangers 99 Rafael Palmeiro 01 Alex Rodriguez

I thought about that team too being from DFW. Wasn't sure about their pitching though. I was also going to use Hamilton.

05-29-2014, 12:47 AM	#1
majesty95 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,755	"What if" Time Machine - Round 2 We are wrapping up the first round of the "What if" Time Machine sim. As I have been simming, I have been debating on what to do next. There was some interest in a second round of the sim so I'm going to continue it. I'm actually going to do four rounds! The first three rounds are going to be set up just like Round 1 - Pick a non-playoff team from history (1946 and up) and then choose 2 players from your team's history (past or future) not currently on the roster to import to your team. After the first three rounds are completed, I am going to take the 24 playoff teams (8 from each round) and put them in a league to determine the grand champion! So, this thread will be for team/player selection of Round 2. Again, you can choose any team that did not make the playoffs between 1946 and 2013 (1994 is ineligible due to not having playoffs). However, teams and players chosen in Round 1 will not be allowed. For instance, I took the 1992 Twins with 1969 Harmon Killebrew and 2004 Johan Santana. That means that the 1992 Twins are off the board. Also, any person choosing the Twins cannot take Harmon KIllebrew or Johan Santana. BUT, another franchise for which those players played could use them (ie the Mets and Santana). Here is a list of the teams and players taken in Round 1 that are no longer eligible: 1980 Baltimore Orioles - 83 Cal Ripken - 66 Frank Robinson 2011 Boston Red Sox - 00 Pedro Martinez - 41 Ted Williams 2005 Cleveland Indians - 53 Al Rosen - 72 Gaylord Perry 1969 Detroit Tigers - 87 Alan Trammell - 13 Miguel Cabrera 1979 Kansas City Royals - 89 Bo Jackson - 94 David Cone 1979 Houston Astros - 94 Jeff Bagwell - 97 Craig Biggio 1992 Minnesota Twins - 69 Harmon Killebrew - 2004 Johan Santana 1985 New York Yankees - 99 Mariano Rivera - 58 Whitey Ford 2004 Oakland A's - 32 Jimmie Foxx - 90 Dennis Eckersley 2003 Seattle Mariners - 95 Randy Johnson - 97 Ken Griffey, Jr. 1993 Texas Rangers - 79 Buddy Bell - 74 Ferguson Jenkins 1987 Toronto Blue Jays - 03 Roy Halladay - 93 Roberto Alomar 2007 Atlanta Braves - 59 Hank Aaron - 95 Greg Maddux 1957 Brooklyn Dodgers - 1997 Mike Piazza - 2013 Clayton Kershaw 1969 Chicago Cubs - 29 Rogers Hornsby - 01 Sammy Sosa 1974 Cincinnati Reds - 77 Tom Seaver - 66 Frank Robinson 1997 Colorado Rockies - 10 Ubaldo Jimenez - 11 Troy Tulowitzki 2009 Florida Marlins - 96 Kevin Brown - 96 Gary Shefield 1996 Montreal Expos - 09 Ryan Zimmerman - 82 Steve Rogers 2007 New York Mets - 85 Dwight Gooden - 69 Tom Seaver 2006 Philadelphia Phillies - 72 Steve Carlton - 74 Mike Schmidt 1977 Pittsburgh Pirates - 66 Roberto Clemente - 08 Honus Wagner 2001 St. Louis Cardinals - 85 Ozzie Smith - 85 John Tudor 1993 San Francisco Giants - 08 Tim Lincecum - 62 Willie Mays Here are the teams/players taken in Round 2: Selections Complete 2012 Arizona Diamondbacks - 99 Matt Williams - 01 Randy Johnson 2001 Chicago Cubs - 92 Greg Maddux - 58 Ernie Banks 1981 Cincinnati Reds - 01 Noodles Hahn - 61 Vada Pinson 2004 Florida Marlins - 93 Bryan Harvey - 97 Charles Johnson 1972 Houston Astros - 86 Mike Scott - 83 Dickie Thon 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers - 63 Sandy Koufax - 53 Roy Campanella 1956 Milwaukee Braves - 28 Rogers Hornsby - 96 John Smoltz 1985 New York Mets - 07 David Wright - 06 Jose Reyes 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates - 35 Arky Vaughn - 73 Wilie Stargell 1979 St. Louis Cardinals - 68 Bob Gibson - 05 Albert Pujols 1966 San Francisco Giants - 29 Mel Ott - 33 Carl Hubbell 2013 Washington Natinals - 82 Gary Carter - 97 Pedro Martinez 1975 Baltimore Orioles - 96 Brady Anderson - 92 Mike Mussina 1978 Boston Red Sox - 99 Nomar Garciaparra - 86 Roger Clemens 1990 Chicago White Sox - 15 Eddie Collins - 20 Joe Jackson 1953 Cleveland Indians - 12 Shoeless Joe Jackson - 68 Luis Tiant 1961 Detroit Tigers - 34 Charlie Gehringer - 46 Hal Hewhouser 2013 Los Angeles Angels - 72 Nolan Ryan - 90 Chuck Finley 1963 Minnesota Twins - 73 Rod Carew - 13 Walter Johnson 1954 New York Yankees - 27 Babe Ruth - 30 Lou Gehrig 2005 Oakland A's - 90 Rickey Henderson - 96 Mark McGwire 2012 Tampa Bay Rays - 10 Carl Crawford - 09 Jason Bartlett 2013 Texas Rangers - 01 Alex Rodriguez - 99 Rafael Palmeiro 2013 Toronto Blue Jays - 97 Roger Clemens - 93 Joe Carter __________________ College Football Sim League \| '95 Problems Online League Last edited by majesty95; 06-11-2014 at 02:42 AM.

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majesty95 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,755	I am going to start Round 2 off with: 1985 New York Mets 07 David Wright 06 Jose Reyes Last edited by majesty95; 05-29-2014 at 01:05 AM.

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MarkInCincy All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Cincinnait, OH (WestSider) Posts: 657	1981 Reds Noodles Hahn 1901 - He's been a beast in any sim I have ever done, in any era, neutralized or real stats 1961 Vada Pinson, great yr, could have been a great player still was very good and under rated / unrecognized for the most part __________________ "A baseball fan has the digestive apparatus of a billy goat. He can, and does, devour any set of statistics with insatiable appetite and then nuzzles hungrily for more." - Sportswriter Arthur Daley "Who says there's an unemployment problem in this country? Just take the five percent unemployed and give them a baseball stat to follow." - Outfielder Andy Van Slyke

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majesty95 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,755	Actually going to allow teams from 1946 (post WWII) through 2013 (sans 1994). Just changing it from 1950 to 1946.

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Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	I obviously screwed up choosing the 1985 Yankees. Time to break out the pinstriped ICBMs and end this once and for all. 1954 Yankees: Probably the best 2nd place team in history (103-51) 1927: Babe Ruth 1930: Lou Gehrig The Babe, Mick and Iron Horse all in the same lineup...lights out. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra Last edited by Caporegime; 05-29-2014 at 10:21 AM.

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Mike45 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 162	Steve Bartman will sleep easy tonite. 2003 Chicago Cubs 1992 Greg Maddux 1958 Ernie Banks EDIT Sorry, misread. Thought it was non world series winner, not non-playoff winner. Make it the 2001 Cubs. Same players. Bartman lives in infamy Last edited by Mike45; 05-29-2014 at 11:02 AM.

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Ruwisc All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Southwestern Illinois Posts: 610	The 2001 Cardinals (picked in round 1) made the playoffs - they lost to the eventual champion D'Backs in the NLDS. You'd have to pick the '99 team or the '03 team if you want a Cardinal team from that period.

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