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Old 03-09-2013, 07:29 PM   #21
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HPK Hämeenlinna

Bad overachievement:
- C Arsi Piispanen (1.season 54, 12+19=31, 14.41) (2.season 60, 11+24=35, 17.36) (3.season 60, 10+21=31, 16.03) -- IRL 49, 4+14=18, 15.11
- D Ville-Veikko Eerola (1.season 60, 2+9=11, 16.27) (2.season 60, 3+10=13, 17.41) (3.season 53, 2+9=11, 17.44) -- IRL 5, 0+0=0, 15.05
- RW Jesse Saarinen (1.season 60, 18+29=47, 19.37) (2.season 60, 29+29=58, 19.53) (3.season 60, 14+29=43, 19.26) -- IRL 38, 7+8=15, 15.25

Mild overachievement:
- LW Jere Sallinen (1.season 43, 18+18=36, 19.56) (2.season 60, 27+29=56, 20.36) (3.season 60, 18+29=47, 20.12) -- IRL 56, 14+27=41, 17.06
- RW Borna Rendulic (1. season 52, 14+18=32, 18.11) (2.season 55, 11+15=26, 17.29) (3.season 60, 9+15=24, 16.05) -- IRL 36, 8+4=12, 13.03
- LW Tuomas Santavuori (1.season 59, 14+21=35, 18.59) (2.season 58, 15+17=32, 16.49) (3.season 60, 15+15=30, 16.37) -- IRL 56, 7+17=24, 13.56

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- D Jordan Henry (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 4, 0+3=3, 17.46) (3.season 4, 1+0=1, 21.28) -- IRL 9, 1+1=2, 20.43
- C Otto Paajanen (1.season 22, 0+2=2, 6.04) (2.season 37, 0+4=4, 4.43) (3.season 8, 2+0=2, 5.06) -- IRL 59, 3+6=9, 12.07
- G Mikko Tolvanen (1.season, 2.season and 3.season team sent him to juniors, no played games) -- IRL 22 played games (backup goalie)


Mild underachievement:
- D Aleksi Laakso (1.season 60, 1+13=14, 19.38) (2.season 57, 5+12=17, 19.34) (3.season 52, 3+12=15, 19.36) -- IRL 48, 7+15=22, 20.26


Btw I'm a fan of HPK also and watched almost all of their games this season and I can agree all of ohv observations... It was very good list!

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Old 03-09-2013, 07:42 PM   #22
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Average goals scored in league settings is 5,13 and after simulated seasons it was (1.season) 4,93, (2.season) 4,96 and (3.season) 5,06.
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- C Markus Granlund
I'll drop his defensive and offensive abilities

- C Joni Töykkälä
This is because of lot of centers in HIFK. Ability wise he should fit in team.

- C Joël Perrault
Slight boost to mental and offensive abilities

- D Kyle Klubertanz
There's not much to do. I'll increase his physical ability just a little.

- D Juuso Salmi
I can increase his abilities, but for instance I have to decrease abilities for Tuohilampi and Silfver who are rated using Mestis scale, I think.

- D Toni Söderholm
Points per minute is close to IRL and he only lacks on atoi. I'll try to decrease Melart's offensive abilities.

- C Arsi Piispanen
This is hard one. I'll decrease offensive ability just a bit and I probably have to change template too.

- D Ville-Veikko Eerola
Mestis ability scale.. I'm still wondering what to do with Mestis players.

- RW Jesse Saarinen
- D Jordan Henry
- C Otto Paajanen
- G Mikko Tolvanen
Tweaked or mentioned earlier

- LW Jere Sallinen
Points per minute is pretty close with irl stats. Atoi hopefully get fixed when 4th liners are given more ice time.

- RW Borna Rendulic
I'll change template. He's been playing in first line lately (injuries?), so I don't edit abilities for now. Maybe he shines in playoffs.

- LW Tuomas Santavuori
Points per minute is close enough.

- D Aleksi Laakso
Ability wise he is good enough. Maybe I can do something to him when we start to add more attributes for players.


Average goals in game seems to bee too low, but not much. It can have some effect to game and hopefully it can give scoring boost to top defenders when it is fixed.

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Old 03-10-2013, 03:47 AM   #24
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This is weird one. He is far from even decent pk player in db.. I consider this as a bug. Do you still have save game file stored? Can you look at his defensive and mental attributes.. maybe post a screenshot in here or type his attributes?
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Okay here are some screenshots as attachement.
There seems to be issue with ai not using even strength 1st forward liners in 1st or 2nd pk line. Ai usually fills 1st pk with 3rd-4th liners and in 2nd pk it uses 2nd-4th liners. I'm not sure if this has something to do with even strength time on ice distribution.

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I had to be tested because Eric Fehr was one of my favorite players ever in HPK. So I tested that how he managed the game skill level in SM-League. I made a deal with him in the second season, and I noticed that his skills level is about 2nd or 3rd liner. I do not simulated as a few games so statistics are not available, but in real life he was definitely the biggest star in the team while playing and definitely 1st liner.

And yes, Borna Rendulic has been playing in 1st line after that Eric Fehr goes to Washington Capitals. I think that Rendulic is very potential player but the only one reason why he is playing in 1st line in real life is that HPK did not get the agreement of any attacker with the rest of the season.

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Bad overachievement:
- RW Antti Hölli (1.season 52, 10+11=21, 14.23) (2.season 59, 9+15=24, 16.01) (3.season 60, 15+16=31, 14.24) -- IRL 8, 0+1=1, 14.31



Mild overachievement:
- D Miro Hovinen (1.season 60, 2+12=14, 20.03) (2.season 60, 2+14=16, 19.37) (3.season 42, 0+11=11, 18.51) -- IRL 26, 0+4=4, 15.19
- D Jarkko Näppilä (1.season 53, 3+13=16, 20.27) (2.season 59, 5+10=15, 22.56) (3.season 52, 6+13=19, 22.19) -- IRL 21, 1+4=5, 20.48



Bad underachievement:
- LW Tommi Välimaa (1.season 22, 1+0=1, 5.17) (2.season 3, 0+0=0, 9.02) (3.season 8, 0+0=0, 11.05) -- IRL 48, 5+4=9, 11.09
- C Mikael Kuronen (1.season 1, 0+0=0, 2.52) (2.season 13, 1+2=3, 4.44) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 40, 4+5=9, 9.36
- C Mika Viinanen (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 13, 2+1=3, 14.34


Mild underachievement:

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JYP Jyväskylä team is bad underachievement (1.season ranking 12.) (2.season ranking 9.) (3.season ranking 12.) -- IRL ranking 2.



Bad overachievement:
- LW Antti Jaatinen (1.season 60, 11+26=37, 17.44) (2.season 56, 5+26=31, 17.59) (3.season 60, 13+13=26, 18.02) -- IRL 52, 13+12=25, 13.50 (specialty: pure scorer)



Mild overachievement:
- RW Ossi Louhivaara (1.season 60, 22+25=47, 21.25) (2.season 60, 19+24=43, 21.38) (3.season 60, 16+13=29, 21.01) -- IRL 57, 13+20=33, 18.19



Bad underachievement:
- G Joni Myllykoski (1.season, 2.season and 3.season, team sent him to Mestis, no played games) -- IRL 10 played games (backup goalie)
- C Matias Myttynen (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 19, 0+0=0, 4.50) (3.season 5, 0+1=1, 4.43) -- IRL 33, 5+1=6, 10.46



Mild underachievement:
- RW Markus Nenonen (1.season 4, 0+1=1, 4.03) (2.season 5, 0+0=0, 4.08) (3.season 12, 0+1=1, 4.30) -- IRL 17, 5+3=8, 7.40
- RW Mikko Salmio (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 27, 3+1=4, 8.32
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- C Mikael Kuronen
- C Mika Viinanen
Changing Kantola's and Laaksonen's primary positions to RW from C so Kuronen and Viinanen can have more games played.

- D Miro Hovinen
- D Jarkko Näppilä
I'm decreasing their offensive abilities slightly.. it should do it.

- LW Tommi Välimaa
I'm rising offensive and physical abilities


JYP Jyväskylä
I performed ability boost to JYP players earlier in this week hopefully it helped.

- LW Antti Jaatinen
I'm changing template and decreasing defensive ability

- RW Ossi Louhivaara
Slightly decreasing offensive ability

- G Joni Myllykoski
One league ability level victims. I assume that Rajaniemi served as a backup..

- C Matias Myttynen
Small bumb to mental ability and maybe offensive too.

- RW Markus Nenonen
- RW Mikko Salmio
I'll change Sipiläinen's primary position to LW from RW. I probably have to recheck JYP players primary and secondary positions later.

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- D Ossi Väänänen (1.season 57, 2+21=23, 22.53) (2.season 50, 2+20=22, 23.13) (3.season 55, 5+11=16, 23.09) -- IRL 52, 2+11=13, 20.37



Bad underachievement:
- D Markus Nordlund (1.season 18, 0+2=2, 16.50) (2.season 7, 1+1=2, 16.38) (3.season 12, 1+1=2, 16.58) -- IRL 43, 5+13=18, 21.06
- C Joonas Rask (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 4, 1+1=2, 7.50) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 51, 5+4=9, 12.32
- C Jesse Winchester (1.season 60, 3+5=8, 7.29) (2.season 60, 5+7=12, 8.16) (3.season 60, 1+4=5, 8.19) -- IRL 5, 0+3=3, 18.25
- RW Semir Ben-Amor (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 27, 1+2=3, 9.04



Mild underachievement:
- D Teemu Eronen (1.season 51, 5+9=14, 23.30) (2.season 60, 8+16=24, 24.07) (3.season 42, 2+14=16, 23.11) -- IRL 54, 8+18=26, 21.59
- C Tomi Mäki (1.season 14, 0+1=1, 13.44) (2.season 31, 1+10=11, 10.44) (3.season 45, 6+11=17, 14.53) -- IRL 45, 2+5=7, 13.47
- RW Matti Lamberg (1.season 1, 0+0=0, 10.24) (2.season 14, 0+0=0, 4.46) (3.season 6, 0+0=0, 4.45) -- IRL 18, 2+4=6, 8.36
- LW Markus Hännikäinen (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 0, 0+0=0) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 19, 0+1=1, 10.47
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- RW Artturi Lehkonen (1.season 43, 18+14=32, 19.39) (2.season 56, 20+28=48, 19.51) (3.season 60, 32+33=65, 20.13) -- IRL 44, 13+16=29, 15.46




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- C Jasse Ikonen (1.season 8, 0+1=1, 7.32) (2.season 5, 1+2, 5.37) (3.season 7, 0+2=2, 6.35) -- IRL 40, 3+11=14, 14.46




Mild underachievement:
- D Miika Koivisto (1.season 20, 1+3=4, 13.51) (2.season 35, 3+4=7, 17.08) (3.season 48, 3+6=9, 17.41) -- IRL 56, 6+11=17, 17.32
- LW Sakari Salminen (1.season 49, 10+22=32, 20.00) (2.season 60, 19+30=49, 19.59) (3.season 54, 23+33=56, 20.27) -- IRL 53, 25+29=54, 18.26
- LW Kalle Kerman (1.season 60, 7+4=11, 7.16) (2.season 60, 7+2=9, 5.18) (3.season 60, 6+2=8, 5.44) -- IRL 55, 8+11=19, 14.09
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Bad overachievement:
- LW Toni Kähkönen (1.season 60, 12+26=38, 18.02) (2.season 15+41=56, 19.21) (3.season 60, 22+32=54, 19.10) -- IRL 55, 19+11=30, 19.18 (specialty: pure scorer, not playmaker)
- LW Tomi Körkkö (1.season 60, 1+0, 4.15) (2.season 55, 6+8=14, 5.57) (3.season 57, 1+4=5, 6.20) -- IRL 17, 1+1=2, 8.27



Mild overachievement:
- LW Joonas Donskoi (1.season 60, 15+32=47, 18.55) (2.season 60, 8+28=36, 18.17) (3.season 12+23=35, 17.20) -- IRL 30, 4+10=14, 15.51
- C Joonas Komulainen (1.season 60, 19+23=42, 18.38) (2.season 47, 9+12=21, 16.54) (3.season 54, 9+17=26, 15.05) -- IRL 47, 7+13=20, 13.56
- D Ville Pokka (1.season 58, 1+20=21, 22.46) (2.season 59, 4+23=27, 23.10) (3.season 47, 1+16=17, 23.22) -- IRL 46, 6+6=12, 19.15
- RW Julius Junttila (1.season 60, 17+18=35, 16.25) (2.season 56, 21+16=37, 17.14) (3.season 60, 15+17=32, 17.21) -- IRL 59, 15+10=25, 14.39



Bad underachievement:
- D Vladimir Eminger (1.season 3, 0+0=0, 17.02) (2.season 3, 0+0=0, 17.03) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 36, 1+6=7, 16.02
- LW Simon Suoranta (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 17, 0+4=4, 5.44) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 46, 4+1=5, 8.08
- C John Norman (1.season 4, 0+0=0, 10.42) (2.season 5, 1+0=1, 9.04) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 27, 2+6=8, 13.21
- C Tomas Plihal (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 24, 5+4=9, 11.36) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 41, 6+5=11, 13.25



Mild underachievement:
- C Jari Viuhkola (1.season 56, 7+10=17, 12.34) (2.season 50, 5+14=19, 13.47) (3.season 60, 9+11=20, 14.49) -- IRL 19, 3+2=5, 16.02
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- D Otto Räty (1.season 45, 1+9=10, 17.28) (2.season 54, 1+4=5, 13.50) (3.season 54, 0+9=9, 15.12) -- IRL 4, 0+1=1, 13.42




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- C Arttu Ilomäki (1.season 11, 0+0=0, 8.01) (2.season 9, 1+0=1, 4.04) (3.season 3, 0+1=1, 7.46) -- IRL 45, 2+6=8, 8.14




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- RW Miikka Männikkö (1. kausi 59, 25+23=48, 19.34) (2.kausi 60, 24+22=46, 20.07) (3.kausi 59, 29+22=51, 19.32) -- IRL 35, 7+15=22, 10.35



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- C Pekka Saarenheimo (1.season 60, 2+4=6, 4.34) (2.season 49, 4+3=7, 4.38) (3.season 60, 0+4=4, 5.03) -- IRL 51, 7+13=20, 14.26
- RW Pekka Jormakka (1.season 10, 1+2=3, 7.03) (2.season 53, 14+14=28, 8.02) (3.season 27, 8+3=11, 8.13) -- IRL 52, 17+15=32, 15.18
- RW Jesse Niinimäki (1.season 57, 8+11=19, 8.24) (2.season 11, 1+3=4, 6.44) (3.season 39, 5+7=12, 8.48) -- IRL 41, 4+14=18, 13.50



Mild underachievement:
- C Jari Kauppila (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 11, 1+3=4, 7.57) (3.season 2, 0+0=0, 4.24) -- IRL 26, 0+5=5, 10.11
- RW Joni Isomäki (1.season 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 19, 0+0=0, 8.14
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- C Jaakko Rissanen (1.season 60, 21+28=49, 19.57) (2.season 60, 21+31=52, 19.47) (3.season 60, 13+34=47, 20.12) -- IRL 46, 11+15=26, 15.37
- RW Roberts Jekimovs (1.season 59, 29+16=45, 19.48) (2.season 59, 23+22=45, 19.19) (3.season 59, 25+13=38, 17.22) -- IRL 54, 16+11=26, 13.55




Mild overachievement:
- LW Stefano Giliati (1.season 60, 14+34=48, 20.04) (2.season 60, 18+27=45, 19.54) (3.season 51, 14+14=28, 19.46) -- IRL 52, 18+17=35 14.53
- LW Anssi Löfman (1.season 58, 8+28=36, 18.10) (2.season 60, 15+29=44, 17.56) (3.season 57, 10+26=36, 19.58) -- IRL 48, 8+19=27, 17.13



Bad underachievement:
- C Ville Hämäläinen (1.season 7, 0+0=0, 4.44) (2.season 9, 1+0=1, 4.30) (3.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) -- IRL 51, 2+7=9, 14.51
- RW Juha Koivisto (1.season 1, 1+0=1, 7.56) (2.season 14, 1+2=3, 15.05) (3.season 1, 0+0=0, 3.06) -- IRL 59, 7+5=12, 14.41
- LW Jesper Piitulainen (1.season 19, 3+6=9, 14.39) (2.season 8, 0+5=5, 18.03) (3.season 4, 2+1=3, 14.33) -- IRL 37, 7+8=15, 11.55



Mild underachievement:
- D Brian Salcido (1.season 52, 4+16=20, 23.45) (2.season 53, 4+14=18, 24.44) (3.season 60, 5+25=30, 25.05) -- IRL 35, 7+19=26, 23.00
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Sante, maybe you like KHL too?

I have watched at sm-league so much so that I am able to provide analyzes of it, but watching KHL league has been so much less that I think that I can not help it.

But I will going to keep that in mind and maybe later will also help KHL

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- LW Rasmus Kulmala (1.season 53, 12+9=21, 15.42) (2.season 53, 7+11=18, 16.21) (3.season 60, 7+14=21, 17.06) -- IRL 48, 4+3=7, 8.29




Mild overachievement:
- D Anssi Rantanen (1.season 60, 2+10=12, 18.46) (2.season 60, 1+14=15, 17.29) (3.season 54, 1+5=6, 18.16) -- IRL 31, 1+2=3, can't see atoi



Bad underachievement:
- D Timo Seppänen (1.season 8, 0+1=1, 14.29) (2.season 10, 0+0=0, 13.26) (3.kausi 10, 1+1=2, 12.40) -- IRL 26, 0+0=0, 13.45
- D Josh MacNevin (1.season 1, 0+0=0, 10.34) (2.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (3.season 2, 0+1=1, 25.22) -- IRL 17, 1+4=5, 16.12
- G Antero Niittymäki (1.season, 2.season and 3.season team sent him to juniors, no played games) -- IRL 14 played games (backup goalie)



Mild underachievement:
- D Niklas Friman (1.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (2.season 0, 0+0=0, 0.00) (3.season 1, 0+0=0, 13.12) -- IRL 25, 2+3=5, 10.20
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It seems there's this recurring theme that in general the first line gets too much playing time and it inflates their stats also a bit. Balancing the ice-time could fix things. Though this could also be caused by too many penalties given, and inflating the first powerplay lines minutes. Unfortunatly I don't have those test sims with me, so I'll have to sim again to check this.
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I have few hours time to implent tweaks before I have to send files to Malte. But I'll try my best.

And in next week I have to plan what to do for Mestis and U20 players. Their ability scale needs lowering. Mestis is currently at same level with Norwegian and Danish league so I probably can't decrease abilities any futher. I don't know if Jeff have something planned to rise gaps between leagues.. I hope so.
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