OOTP 17 Update #8 HOTFIX, Version 17.10.67 Available! - Page 4

Silfir · 08-10-2016, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsGuy34

Anyone having "Shop a Player" issues?

I do, actually. I can shop my stud prospects, anyone at all - no takers.

atomicpup · 08-10-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Silfir

I do, actually. I can shop my stud prospects, anyone at all - no takers.

Same here.

MizzouRah · 08-10-2016, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

As far as I'm aware, there are some minor issues, but nothing that should cause problems for the vast majority of leagues.

We will still issue a maintenance patch at some point, however that likely will not come out for another couple weeks, just to be sure that we catch the last of the issues.

I'm in the playoffs.. so just to be safe, I'll wait until the end of the season.

james17 · 08-11-2016, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by markvacc1

What drivers are we talking about? I bought 17 this year and the sound was fine until the latest patch. Something in the patch took out part of the sound effects. If somebody can provide me with a walk through with detailed instructions, I'll give it a try.

Ironically, when this happened to me, I updated my Nvidia drivers and that fixed it. If you use Nvidia's GeForce Experience software, just click on check for updates.

I don't have any suggestions if you're using an AMD video card, but Nvidia's drivers update worked for me on this issue.

markvacc1 · 08-11-2016, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by james17

Ironically, when this happened to me, I updated my Nvidia drivers and that fixed it. If you use Nvidia's GeForce Experience software, just click on check for updates.

I don't have any suggestions if you're using an AMD video card, but Nvidia's drivers update worked for me on this issue.

I'll see what I have. I don't see why it would be drivers though. I had the sound before the latest patch. The way I see it, it is something with the latest patch. I will check on the card first though.

markvacc1 · 08-11-2016, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchkenn

first of all, i'd follow Matt's suggestion and FTP him your files
..... but if you really want to undo this update and install an older one there is a way.

see post 114 to 128 of this link ....

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post4074875

i did find a link on OOTP website to older versions (patches) of the game.

Index of /ootp

i'd follow Matt's advice first, as he MAY be able to isolate the issue. The fact he's willing to work with you and save any potential issues with a reinstall (esp. if you don't have an older saved game), is pretty impressive, knowing he's doing it on his own time most likely.

Why won't a previous patch overwrite the newer patch? It works in other games. I've done it in Puresim Baseball and the war games I play. It is still OOTP17 in the previous patch.

Simmo13 · 08-11-2016, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by markvacc1

I'll see what I have. I don't see why it would be drivers though. I had the sound before the latest patch. The way I see it, it is something with the latest patch. I will check on the card first though.

What James said....I updated NVIDIA GEFORCE drivers and sound worked perfectly.

pbreen · 08-11-2016, 12:53 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I am sure glad we have this new slight inflation in our leagues due to the new patch. It is totally worth the bugs and month or so of them to come!

The Yurpman · 08-11-2016, 02:24 PM

The folks at OOTP do an absolute amazing job year in, year out on making the best "true to life" baseball simulation in the world. I've downloaded this patch but have not installed it due to some of the issues others have had.

Some of you guys need to realize how challenging a game like OOTP would be to create, none the less update regularly while fixing problems and creating new options for users on the fly. Recognizing issues and bugs is one thing but ridiculing the OOTP Team is just petty, stupid and disrespectful.

My two pennies.

james17 · 08-11-2016, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by markvacc1

I'll see what I have. I don't see why it would be drivers though. I had the sound before the latest patch. The way I see it, it is something with the latest patch. I will check on the card first though.

Not sure here, but I believe Matt said it had something to do with the patch(es) made some small changes to their OpenGL coding that knocked that part of the sound out.

mitchkenn · 08-11-2016, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by markvacc1

Why won't a previous patch overwrite the newer patch? It works in other games. I've done it in Puresim Baseball and the war games I play. It is still OOTP17 in the previous patch.

i don't know, but i DO know it does not work with this game... i've tried it to no avail. the only way i know, which was explained in a post by Markus on a very early patch, is the unlicense, uninstall current patch - reinstall older patch route. Sorry but in order to help you get your older version back, unless someone has a better way (which would be great and i'd use it if i had to), it's the best i can do.

LouGerig_IronHorse · 08-11-2016, 07:01 PM

Just installed the hotfix this morning - and have played a few games. In 3D mode, the home team pawns have all turned completely black from head to toe. They look like little grim reapers! lol. But it appears that post hotfix, the home team pawns have lost their team colors. Anyone else experiencing this or any 3D issues?

Another issue post patch (in 3D mode) - runner on first - batter hits a line drive to the gap in right center - ball rolls all the way to the wall. Runner stops at second - batter stops at first - throw comes in and goes through the infield but runners stay put at first and second. Normally (and pre-patch) - a gapper that rolls to the wall in right center in this situation at worst has runners at second and third (a speedy runner on first often comes around to score or at least there's a play at the plate)...

clamel · 08-11-2016, 08:04 PM

I am truly getting scared. For each fixed problems in any new patch a couple of new ones seems to pop up according to what folks informs.

It's a complicated game, but the last few years maybe it have gotten to complicated, hence all those extra hick-ups with almost every patch.
Every time one wait a couple of days, then one stops and hopes for the next patch. The merry go round start again.
Truly sad...

This latest that now the sound and graphic cards seems to be messed with isn't very good. Ripple-effect into hardware from this game isn't very funny.

I do hope you guys at OOTP try and make even more test before releasing a final patch on this version, or like I recall before some issues was left until next years version. That is very bad business.

Hope one of these days I dare to DL and patch, but really not sure.

Mac and steam problems comes naturally. You mess with them and you are asking for trouble

Always been against Steam controlling everything

LouGerig_IronHorse · 08-11-2016, 09:41 PM

Gotta admit that it's taking a little bit of the 'fun factor' away seeing the home team pawns all black. Honestly, I downloaded and installed this new fix hoping it would fix the game crash issue when trying to install 3D version of Dodger Stadium. I haven't tested that one yet. Still trying to deal with home team pawns that have lost their uniform colors! LOL

Am hoping the Dodger Stadium game crash bug is fixed - not only could I not install the 3D park - but even attempting to play any game with the Dodgers as the home team would crash out the game. UGH!!

NoOne · 08-12-2016, 12:05 PM

they aren't alone in doing this.. look up any small operation or crowdfunded game...

they use clients as the debuggers. this game is released in alpha/beta phase and we do work for them (the absoulte worst part... like cpa's being auditors for 2years or w/e), lol. this is mutually exclusive of whether the game is good or how true-to-life it is... game quality has nothing to do with the fact it's an small operation and once you get your expectations in line with what they are, this is just a patch release well within the 'norm.'

if it's too complicated relative to sales and how much staff they can hire, then yes, they need to dial it back and be more realistic... i really doubt that's the case, though.

you've got numerous processes that all influence each other, you tweak one, you have to tweakthe rest mst likely... many moving parts, so you should expect oddities at patch time -- even if it happens only once per release.

just with windows patches or any update -- EVER -- you should wait for feedback of the ones that don't understand that you shouldn't download immediately... unless you are being paid to do so.

about drivers: update all of them... if the update has been out more than a month, update it. your vid card, sound card, everything! if you have a big box brand, you likely can go to their website and type in your model number... if you bought stuff separately, go to the mobo home page then each device's home page... use your device manager as a checklist.

yes, it can matter... the problem with this suggestion is that it's a goto anyime something goes wrong (ad nauseum -- like crying wolf too much).. for a very good reason, i might add. simply put if your computer is not communicating properly with your video card, something isn't going to work properly... and yes, it can change with a newer update -- even many years down the line if it is still in use. as with medical diagnosisese (sp?), it's not always easy to know what's wrong with a computer... so, you work your way up from the bottom... the drivers. once you eliminate that as a cause it is now worth someone's time to help you mve to the next step in figuring out the problem.

if you have your sound going through your video card, you can get conflicts between the two devices/drivers. if "AMD hdmi audio device" means somethign to you, you know what i am talking about... even the order in which i install my vid and audio drivers can screw things up!

also if building a PC and choosing between a well-known brand and an off-name vid card/sound card etc... get the named brand! they are better at updating their stuff and they very likely use better parts, like a decent heat sink. i've had amd vid cards for last 10+ years... i strongly suggest using nvidia video cards.. but that can change every 1-5 years, too. amd chips (cpu/gpu) are cheaper for a reason. i'd stick with intel too..

and don't let mac fool you... they are ~8% of the pc/laptop market. they are such a minor player that they are essentially an after-thought at best. how much does the market cater to such a small percentage? not much. (this isn't a debate about quality.. dont care about that, because it's not relevant to what i am communicating... e.g. beta was better than vhs and look where that got them.)

pbreen · 08-12-2016, 01:11 PM

Might have encountered another bug.
I customize a few players every decade to make some "elite" players that will stand the test of time. I created exact replicas of players I made before the patch, but they are dramatically different.

One of my players is a closer with 95/95 stuff, but the scouting report claims he has awful stuff and during in game situations he cannot strike anyone out. At first I thought it was an anomaly, but half the season has gone by and he has only recorded 9 K's in 38 games. In previous playthrough's this player could easily reach 150 K's a season.

That is not the only issue though. I also created a player with 80/80 power, but the scouting report claims "he is not a power hitter and won't ever be". Strangely enough he has 3 HR's at the all-star break. To top that off, he is a lefty batter playing primarily at Fenway.

I have never experienced this issue before and it is very confusing. Originally I assumed the scouting report was just inaccurate, but I fear now that is not the case. Has anyone else experienced this? It is very strange.

snake1399 · 08-13-2016, 09:37 AM

Has anyone seen an issue with Box Scores and Game Logs no longer showing up in reports for Online Leagues since the latest patch(es)?? The clickable links are there, but only a blank page comes up. Happening across the board in all my Leagues

Snake

MizzouRah · 08-13-2016, 11:28 AM

I did have an issue with the bat sound not matching up but a reboot fixed it.

wsenkow · 08-14-2016, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Silfir

I do, actually. I can shop my stud prospects, anyone at all - no takers.

I can't shop any player, first noticed this during the Winter Meetings.

wsenkow · 08-14-2016, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pbreen

I don't know about you guys, but I am sure glad we have this new slight inflation in our leagues due to the new patch. It is totally worth the bugs and month or so of them to come!

You have got to be kidding.....

Note: I failed to realize you were sarcastic and agree totally with what you say. As a steam account user myself I know well of your frustration.

08-11-2016, 07:01 PM	#72
LouGerig_IronHorse Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 76	Installed Patch - noticed a couple of 3D mode issues Just installed the hotfix this morning - and have played a few games. In 3D mode, the home team pawns have all turned completely black from head to toe. They look like little grim reapers! lol. But it appears that post hotfix, the home team pawns have lost their team colors. Anyone else experiencing this or any 3D issues? Another issue post patch (in 3D mode) - runner on first - batter hits a line drive to the gap in right center - ball rolls all the way to the wall. Runner stops at second - batter stops at first - throw comes in and goes through the infield but runners stay put at first and second. Normally (and pre-patch) - a gapper that rolls to the wall in right center in this situation at worst has runners at second and third (a speedy runner on first often comes around to score or at least there's a play at the plate)...

08-12-2016, 12:05 PM	#75
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	they aren't alone in doing this.. look up any small operation or crowdfunded game... they use clients as the debuggers. this game is released in alpha/beta phase and we do work for them (the absoulte worst part... like cpa's being auditors for 2years or w/e), lol. this is mutually exclusive of whether the game is good or how true-to-life it is... game quality has nothing to do with the fact it's an small operation and once you get your expectations in line with what they are, this is just a patch release well within the 'norm.' if it's too complicated relative to sales and how much staff they can hire, then yes, they need to dial it back and be more realistic... i really doubt that's the case, though. you've got numerous processes that all influence each other, you tweak one, you have to tweakthe rest mst likely... many moving parts, so you should expect oddities at patch time -- even if it happens only once per release. just with windows patches or any update -- EVER -- you should wait for feedback of the ones that don't understand that you shouldn't download immediately... unless you are being paid to do so. about drivers: update all of them... if the update has been out more than a month, update it. your vid card, sound card, everything! if you have a big box brand, you likely can go to their website and type in your model number... if you bought stuff separately, go to the mobo home page then each device's home page... use your device manager as a checklist. yes, it can matter... the problem with this suggestion is that it's a goto anyime something goes wrong (ad nauseum -- like crying wolf too much).. for a very good reason, i might add. simply put if your computer is not communicating properly with your video card, something isn't going to work properly... and yes, it can change with a newer update -- even many years down the line if it is still in use. as with medical diagnosisese (sp?), it's not always easy to know what's wrong with a computer... so, you work your way up from the bottom... the drivers. once you eliminate that as a cause it is now worth someone's time to help you mve to the next step in figuring out the problem. if you have your sound going through your video card, you can get conflicts between the two devices/drivers. if "AMD hdmi audio device" means somethign to you, you know what i am talking about... even the order in which i install my vid and audio drivers can screw things up! also if building a PC and choosing between a well-known brand and an off-name vid card/sound card etc... get the named brand! they are better at updating their stuff and they very likely use better parts, like a decent heat sink. i've had amd vid cards for last 10+ years... i strongly suggest using nvidia video cards.. but that can change every 1-5 years, too. amd chips (cpu/gpu) are cheaper for a reason. i'd stick with intel too.. and don't let mac fool you... they are ~8% of the pc/laptop market. they are such a minor player that they are essentially an after-thought at best. how much does the market cater to such a small percentage? not much. (this isn't a debate about quality.. dont care about that, because it's not relevant to what i am communicating... e.g. beta was better than vhs and look where that got them.) Last edited by NoOne; 08-17-2016 at 01:50 PM. Reason: "amatuer" wasn't accurate

08-13-2016, 09:37 AM	#77
snake1399 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 218	Has anyone seen an issue with Box Scores and Game Logs no longer showing up in reports for Online Leagues since the latest patch(es)?? The clickable links are there, but only a blank page comes up. Happening across the board in all my Leagues Snake __________________ USBLH/NBL/Federal League Commissioner

08-11-2016, 12:53 PM	#68
pbreen Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 38	I don't know about you guys, but I am sure glad we have this new slight inflation in our leagues due to the new patch. It is totally worth the bugs and month or so of them to come!

08-11-2016, 02:24 PM	#69
The Yurpman Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 318	The folks at OOTP do an absolute amazing job year in, year out on making the best "true to life" baseball simulation in the world. I've downloaded this patch but have not installed it due to some of the issues others have had. Some of you guys need to realize how challenging a game like OOTP would be to create, none the less update regularly while fixing problems and creating new options for users on the fly. Recognizing issues and bugs is one thing but ridiculing the OOTP Team is just petty, stupid and disrespectful. My two pennies.

08-11-2016, 08:04 PM	#73
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,033	I am truly getting scared. For each fixed problems in any new patch a couple of new ones seems to pop up according to what folks informs. It's a complicated game, but the last few years maybe it have gotten to complicated, hence all those extra hick-ups with almost every patch. Every time one wait a couple of days, then one stops and hopes for the next patch. The merry go round start again. Truly sad... This latest that now the sound and graphic cards seems to be messed with isn't very good. Ripple-effect into hardware from this game isn't very funny. I do hope you guys at OOTP try and make even more test before releasing a final patch on this version, or like I recall before some issues was left until next years version. That is very bad business. Hope one of these days I dare to DL and patch, but really not sure. Mac and steam problems comes naturally. You mess with them and you are asking for trouble Always been against Steam controlling everything

08-11-2016, 09:41 PM	#74
LouGerig_IronHorse Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 76	Gotta admit that it's taking a little bit of the 'fun factor' away seeing the home team pawns all black. Honestly, I downloaded and installed this new fix hoping it would fix the game crash issue when trying to install 3D version of Dodger Stadium. I haven't tested that one yet. Still trying to deal with home team pawns that have lost their uniform colors! LOL Am hoping the Dodger Stadium game crash bug is fixed - not only could I not install the 3D park - but even attempting to play any game with the Dodgers as the home team would crash out the game. UGH!!

08-12-2016, 01:11 PM	#76
pbreen Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 38	Might have encountered another bug. I customize a few players every decade to make some "elite" players that will stand the test of time. I created exact replicas of players I made before the patch, but they are dramatically different. One of my players is a closer with 95/95 stuff, but the scouting report claims he has awful stuff and during in game situations he cannot strike anyone out. At first I thought it was an anomaly, but half the season has gone by and he has only recorded 9 K's in 38 games. In previous playthrough's this player could easily reach 150 K's a season. That is not the only issue though. I also created a player with 80/80 power, but the scouting report claims "he is not a power hitter and won't ever be". Strangely enough he has 3 HR's at the all-star break. To top that off, he is a lefty batter playing primarily at Fenway. I have never experienced this issue before and it is very confusing. Originally I assumed the scouting report was just inaccurate, but I fear now that is not the case. Has anyone else experienced this? It is very strange.

08-13-2016, 11:28 AM	#78
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,251	I did have an issue with the bat sound not matching up but a reboot fixed it.