OOTP 17 Update #7 PUBLIC BETA, Version 17.9.57 Available! - Page 3

mgom27 · 06-14-2016, 08:54 PM

How about a Saved Game that's start date is after this year Draft? Also in real life Draft Picks are signing right away any way to make that happen in Game?
Did Moose Royals 3B get put on DL for season? Historical Leagues more Minor Leagues?

drksd4848 · 06-14-2016, 09:33 PM

Sorry guys, now I sorta kinda gotta complain. 3D is pretty much completely out of whack. The first thing that comes to mind: the throws don't line up with the pawn who is trying to catch the ball.

PSUColonel · 06-14-2016, 11:01 PM

Whats going on with all of the high quality free agents at the start of the MLB roster set?

PSUColonel · 06-14-2016, 11:46 PM

were these players added in the latest patch, or is it the fact I am using very low scouting accuracy?

vegaspomeranians · 06-15-2016, 01:47 AM

I can't believe it. The 2016 mlb draft order is STILL WRONG!

qcbandits · 06-15-2016, 05:44 AM

Ok, so I finally added the beta patch...

Why would the top prospect lists be shorter than 20 players?
Arizona - 4
Atlanta - 10
Baltimore - 7
Boston - 9
White Sox - 4
Cubs - 11
Cincinnati - 14
Cleveland - 9
Colorado - 13
Detroit - 7
Astros - 7
Royals - 5
Angels - 4
Dodgers - 13
Miami - 1
Milwaukee - 10
Minnesota - 9
Yankees - 14
Mets - 15
Athletics - 7
Phillies - 12
Pirates - 12
Padres - 10
Giants - 12
Mariners - 6
Cardinals - 20
Rays - 11
Rangers - 9
Blue Jays - 10
Nationals - 8

This is not a new game but an existing game. I'm pretty confused by all this.

Edit,
Even with starting a game, teams are not always listing 20 prospects anymore on the top 20

Edit 2
Changing the prospect list from annual to dynamic breaks it a whole lot worse... each team is under 6-7 players on the 20 man lists.

This is absolutely ridiculous. This feature worked absolutely fine before and has for multiple versions of the game and now you guys tinker with it nd break it? I mean seriously why break something that was never broken to begin with??

Spritze · 06-15-2016, 07:35 AM

This prospect thing affects historical leagues too. Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Ernie Banks and Hank Aaron all get dumped on as well as many, many more.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-15-2016, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritze

This prospect thing affects historical leagues too. Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Ernie Banks and Hank Aaron all get dumped on as well as many, many more.

Like I said, I could not reproduce this here. Also, the prospect list thing (which Matt will improve now) has nothing to do with the roster / release AI, which has not changed in a long while.

Spritze · 06-15-2016, 09:30 AM

Ok.

David Watts · 06-15-2016, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Like I said, I could not reproduce this here. Also, the prospect list thing (which Matt will improve now) has nothing to do with the roster / release AI, which has not changed in a long while.

Are you using a amateur draft or do you have the draft turned off? I noticed the Lou Gehrig issue with the draft turned off. With it on, he at least stays visible. He gets drafted, usually #1, but gets released 10 days later.

Without a draft, by 1923 I couldn't find him anywhere. He isn't on the list of MLB players. He isn't on the list of PCL players and he isn't on the list of Texas League players.

Habsfan18 · 06-15-2016, 09:43 AM

Spritze and other historical users, how big of an issue is the historical player thing? I read about an issue on the bugs report forum about certain players like Babe Ruth coming into the league with out of wack overall potential. I assume this is just with historical minors on?

I've been wanting to start a historical league for awhile now but I'm waiting for it to be 100% playable.

bwburke94 · 06-15-2016, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

were these players added in the latest patch, or is it the fact I am using very low scouting accuracy?

La O and Y. Gurriel were in last year's game (albeit with different spellings of their names), Cepeda and Arias were in OOTP 17 at launch, Bell is overrated by your scout, and I haven't heard of most of the other guys. Assuming scouting error.

NoOne · 06-15-2016, 12:39 PM

"- Fixed case where extreme high scoring games can continue forever"

does this mean they keep tying each inning or even if not tied they continue to play due to too high a score it can't resolve a difference?

that's scary if it's the previous.... that would be a smoking gun for the 'pre-determined' conspiracy crowd, lol.

(which i won't 100% discount, nor care that much about if it's true or not.. they aren't modeling an infectious disease or anything important.)

PSUColonel · 06-15-2016, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwburke94

La O and Y. Gurriel were in last year's game (albeit with different spellings of their names), Cepeda and Arias were in OOTP 17 at launch, Bell is overrated by your scout, and I haven't heard of most of the other guys. Assuming scouting error.

But here's the problem...scouting error seems to be very top heavy, in that it's really operating players on such a scale that it's obvious there is huge error. This is true even on normal accuracy. It's just not right to have hundreds and dozens of 3-5 star potential players.

Matt Arnold · 06-15-2016, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoOne

"- Fixed case where extreme high scoring games can continue forever"

does this mean they keep tying each inning or even if not tied they continue to play due to too high a score it can't resolve a difference?

that's scary if it's the previous.... that would be a smoking gun for the 'pre-determined' conspiracy crowd, lol.

(which i won't 100% discount, nor care that much about if it's true or not.. they aren't modeling an infectious disease or anything important.)

We basically had a bug where we didn't count runs over 250 per team in a game, so if the game got to be 250-250, it would simply go on forever with neither team ever winning.

Arc Flash · 06-15-2016, 02:30 PM

Hello. Hope This Thread is the right one for my question. I am ready to update my ootp16 to ootp17. My question is which is better the regular download game or the stream download? What is the differences if any? Thank you.

Habsfan18 · 06-15-2016, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qcbandits

Ok, so I finally added the beta patch...

Why would the top prospect lists be shorter than 20 players?
Arizona - 4
Atlanta - 10
Baltimore - 7
Boston - 9
White Sox - 4
Cubs - 11
Cincinnati - 14
Cleveland - 9
Colorado - 13
Detroit - 7
Astros - 7
Royals - 5
Angels - 4
Dodgers - 13
Miami - 1
Milwaukee - 10
Minnesota - 9
Yankees - 14
Mets - 15
Athletics - 7
Phillies - 12
Pirates - 12
Padres - 10
Giants - 12
Mariners - 6
Cardinals - 20
Rays - 11
Rangers - 9
Blue Jays - 10
Nationals - 8

This is not a new game but an existing game. I'm pretty confused by all this.

Edit,
Even with starting a game, teams are not always listing 20 prospects anymore on the top 20

Edit 2
Changing the prospect list from annual to dynamic breaks it a whole lot worse... each team is under 6-7 players on the 20 man lists.

This is absolutely ridiculous. This feature worked absolutely fine before and has for multiple versions of the game and now you guys tinker with it nd break it? I mean seriously why break something that was never broken to begin with??

Noticed this as well. It's odd. I'm wondering if for some reason the AI isn't classifying some of the young guys as prospects?

dcd111 · 06-15-2016, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We basically had a bug where we didn't count runs over 250 per team in a game, so if the game got to be 250-250, it would simply go on forever with neither team ever winning.

It's only idle curiosity, but I have to wonder: how was this bug ever discovered? Have any users actually reported a score like this, or was it noticed in the code while squashing other bugs?

BusterKing · 06-15-2016, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justafish2002

Using 3D view, Short PbP: the 3D animation now begins before things like season stats and substitutions are shown in the PbP window. I know in previous versions, the animation would not begin until after these kind of things had appeared.

Example:
SUBSTITUTION... (Animation Begins Now after a short 3-5 sec delay)
Now pitching for St. Louis: LHP JIm Bough.
He is 12-9, with a 3.77 ERA...
striking out 178 in 198.1 innings pitched.
Tobar digs in to face the left hander...
he's gone 1 for 2...
with one double. (Animation used to begin here)
2-2 Pitch: Ground out 3-1 (Groundball, 34)...

This also happens at the very beginning of games as well with the PbP stopping after the first line (Welcome to...) until the animation begins and then it continues on with the weather information and starting pitcher statistics.

I hope this patch isn't released on Steam until this is fixed.

Matt Arnold · 06-15-2016, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcd111

It's only idle curiosity, but I have to wonder: how was this bug ever discovered? Have any users actually reported a score like this, or was it noticed in the code while squashing other bugs?

I think someone had minor leagues where a modifier caused an underflow, so that all players ended up with like .900 batting averages.

06-14-2016, 08:54 PM	#41
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,520	How about a Saved Game that's start date is after this year Draft? Also in real life Draft Picks are signing right away any way to make that happen in Game? Did Moose Royals 3B get put on DL for season? Historical Leagues more Minor Leagues? __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

06-14-2016, 11:01 PM	#43
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,990 Blog Entries: 37	Whats going on with all of the high quality free agents at the start of the MLB roster set? Attached Images

06-15-2016, 05:44 AM	#46
qcbandits Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,441 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	Ok, so I finally added the beta patch... Why would the top prospect lists be shorter than 20 players? Arizona - 4 Atlanta - 10 Baltimore - 7 Boston - 9 White Sox - 4 Cubs - 11 Cincinnati - 14 Cleveland - 9 Colorado - 13 Detroit - 7 Astros - 7 Royals - 5 Angels - 4 Dodgers - 13 Miami - 1 Milwaukee - 10 Minnesota - 9 Yankees - 14 Mets - 15 Athletics - 7 Phillies - 12 Pirates - 12 Padres - 10 Giants - 12 Mariners - 6 Cardinals - 20 Rays - 11 Rangers - 9 Blue Jays - 10 Nationals - 8 This is not a new game but an existing game. I'm pretty confused by all this. Edit, Even with starting a game, teams are not always listing 20 prospects anymore on the top 20 Edit 2 Changing the prospect list from annual to dynamic breaks it a whole lot worse... each team is under 6-7 players on the 20 man lists. This is absolutely ridiculous. This feature worked absolutely fine before and has for multiple versions of the game and now you guys tinker with it nd break it? I mean seriously why break something that was never broken to begin with?? Last edited by qcbandits; 06-15-2016 at 06:58 AM.

06-15-2016, 07:35 AM	#47
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	This prospect thing affects historical leagues too. Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Ernie Banks and Hank Aaron all get dumped on as well as many, many more. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

06-15-2016, 09:30 AM	#49
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	Ok. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

06-14-2016, 09:33 PM	#42
drksd4848 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,816 Blog Entries: 1	Sorry guys, now I sorta kinda gotta complain. 3D is pretty much completely out of whack. The first thing that comes to mind: the throws don't line up with the pawn who is trying to catch the ball.

06-14-2016, 11:46 PM	#44
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,990 Blog Entries: 37	were these players added in the latest patch, or is it the fact I am using very low scouting accuracy?

06-15-2016, 01:47 AM	#45
vegaspomeranians Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 109	I can't believe it. The 2016 mlb draft order is STILL WRONG!

06-15-2016, 09:43 AM	#51
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,238	Spritze and other historical users, how big of an issue is the historical player thing? I read about an issue on the bugs report forum about certain players like Babe Ruth coming into the league with out of wack overall potential. I assume this is just with historical minors on? I've been wanting to start a historical league for awhile now but I'm waiting for it to be 100% playable.

06-15-2016, 12:39 PM	#53
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	"- Fixed case where extreme high scoring games can continue forever" does this mean they keep tying each inning or even if not tied they continue to play due to too high a score it can't resolve a difference? that's scary if it's the previous.... that would be a smoking gun for the 'pre-determined' conspiracy crowd, lol. (which i won't 100% discount, nor care that much about if it's true or not.. they aren't modeling an infectious disease or anything important.)

06-15-2016, 02:30 PM	#56
Arc Flash Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 19 Blog Entries: 1	Hello. Hope This Thread is the right one for my question. I am ready to update my ootp16 to ootp17. My question is which is better the regular download game or the stream download? What is the differences if any? Thank you. __________________ "Not bragging by any means, but I could have done a lot of other stuff as far as working in films go and working in television... I had chances to do that stuff, but I like baseball, I really do." The One and Only, Bob Uecker.