Pitcher's Hitting...1 Contact

Renner · 10-03-2014, 11:11 PM

Hi. I am currently playing a historical league starting in 1899 with random players appearing in the draft year to year. Currently I am about 1/4 through 1912 and have been happy with the results except for one issue. The pitcher's hitting. More accurately, when a Pitcher with 1 Contact (1-10 scale) comes to bat I have the urge to pitch around or walk him because of the seemingly endless times he's able to get a hit.

I know this can be shot down as "small sample size" or "bad luck", but I looked at it a little closer.

All Pitchers with 1 Contact are hitting a combined 336-1867 (.180). I realize .180 is pretty horrible, but maybe I expect worse from the bottom 10% of Contact ability. Pitchers with 2 Contact are 63-334 (.189) and with a 3 they are 71-315 (.225).

The overall real MLB hit .269 in 1912, but baseball ref doesn't yet have the breakout what the Pitchers hit for that year.
1914 with a .251 AVE had the 9th place position hit .184 overall that year.

While Jason Dickson went 0-13 in his career it is frustrating to see him go 15-43 with a split of .349/.364/.488. (including 6-7 in 2 games in which I played against him).

So, has there been any notice of this by other historical players or should I just deal with it quietly ? I suppose my real question is...Is a combined .180 batting average acceptable for Pitchers with a 1 Contact in a league that hit .269 overall ?

Thanks for the soapbox.

Spritze · 10-04-2014, 10:48 AM

Pitchers hit .191 in 1912

Renner · 10-04-2014, 10:51 AM

Thanks for that.

I'm sure in my current version of 1912 the Pitcher's totals are much higher (away from the game currently). I just wasn't sure if there was any kind of known issue with Pitcher's hitting overall better than they did in real life.

Spritze · 10-04-2014, 11:02 AM

Pitchers hit .188 in 1912 in the last OOTP game I played but of course that is a different mix of pitchers and their AB's than IRL.

Best hitting Pitcher with at least 90 AB's hit .301 in 93 AB's in my 1912 OOTP game.

10-03-2014, 11:11 PM	#1
Renner Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 415	Pitcher's Hitting...1 Contact Hi. I am currently playing a historical league starting in 1899 with random players appearing in the draft year to year. Currently I am about 1/4 through 1912 and have been happy with the results except for one issue. The pitcher's hitting. More accurately, when a Pitcher with 1 Contact (1-10 scale) comes to bat I have the urge to pitch around or walk him because of the seemingly endless times he's able to get a hit. I know this can be shot down as "small sample size" or "bad luck", but I looked at it a little closer. All Pitchers with 1 Contact are hitting a combined 336-1867 (.180). I realize .180 is pretty horrible, but maybe I expect worse from the bottom 10% of Contact ability. Pitchers with 2 Contact are 63-334 (.189) and with a 3 they are 71-315 (.225). The overall real MLB hit .269 in 1912, but baseball ref doesn't yet have the breakout what the Pitchers hit for that year. 1914 with a .251 AVE had the 9th place position hit .184 overall that year. While Jason Dickson went 0-13 in his career it is frustrating to see him go 15-43 with a split of .349/.364/.488. (including 6-7 in 2 games in which I played against him). So, has there been any notice of this by other historical players or should I just deal with it quietly ? I suppose my real question is...Is a combined .180 batting average acceptable for Pitchers with a 1 Contact in a league that hit .269 overall ? Thanks for the soapbox. __________________ I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol.

10-04-2014, 10:48 AM	#2
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	Pitchers hit .191 in 1912 __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

10-04-2014, 10:51 AM	#3
Renner Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 415	Thanks for that. I'm sure in my current version of 1912 the Pitcher's totals are much higher (away from the game currently). I just wasn't sure if there was any kind of known issue with Pitcher's hitting overall better than they did in real life. __________________ I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol.

10-04-2014, 11:02 AM	#4
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,254	Pitchers hit .188 in 1912 in the last OOTP game I played but of course that is a different mix of pitchers and their AB's than IRL. Best hitting Pitcher with at least 90 AB's hit .301 in 93 AB's in my 1912 OOTP game. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it! Last edited by Spritze; 10-04-2014 at 11:09 AM.