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Please, don't say due to health, because that's just not true. The risks for injury may be higher in football, but that doesn't mean everyone gets injured. First, define quality of life, because quality of life differs from person to person. Being healthy is only part of it. There's a whole lot more to it. |
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Generally, getting drafted in the NFL is harder due to there just generally being a lot fewer rounds in the draft, so just the act of being drafted for the NFL is a greater sign of future success possibility than simply being drafted in the MLB That said, as we all know, Kyler Murray was drafted early in both. However, something that few think about is that being drafted in the MLB almost universally means years of riding buses from little town to little town all spring and summer, even if a top draft pick If you're drafted that early in the NFL, you start with more guaranteed money while jumping right to team flights and fancy hotels and more fame out of the gate while also getting all but guaranteed the chance to log heavy action out of the gate. So, quality of life is better early (in my opinion) while allowing you the freedom to start investing some of that money to make it work for you quicker than you could in MLB Higher risk of injury? Of course. But for a QB with all the rules changes the past few years? I'd say football is the safer bet (higher floor) if drafted early in both sports, personally |
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You answered it yourself, I'd also think head injuries are more in football than baseball which would lead to more dementia cases etc for ex football players than baseball players .
We're talking in general, it's like saying not everyone who gets shot dies but theres a better chance than if you do get shot. Being healthy is a massive part of quality of life, I could give you alot of personnel examples on that front. |
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The average NFL career is 3.3 years. The average MLB career is 6.5 years. A player plays baseball, another football, their quality of life is not different at the end of their career. Injury risk can be applied in any walk of life. A career in the military is riskier than a career selling cars. Doesn't mean the car seller has a better quality of life at career end. I can give lots of examples too, both ways. I know people in poor health and have a poor quality of life, same as I know people in good health and have a poor quality of life. Health is a big part of it, but it's not everything, and the risk that comes with your chosen employment doesn't determine the quality of life at the end of your career. Last edited by Bluenoser; 01-07-2020 at 12:58 PM. |
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A long term study published in may of 2019 in the Journal of the American Medical Association showed NFL players with a 7 year shorter average mortality than MLB players.
Article NFL players also have to play longer to receive a pension than MLB and the pension pays less. MLB players also receive better health insurance coverage after retirement and it is for life. It is easy to throw out anecdotal evidence that "anybody can get injured doing anything" but injury rates are much higher for NFL than for MLB, concussion rates are significantly higher as well. Median NLF pay is lower than median MLB pay and MLB careers last longer, on average. Assuming equal skill and prospects in the two sports, you will make more money, and have better health and retirement benefits from MLB than NFL, again, speaking of the average, not as anecdotes. If you are an early first round pick for the NFL (like Murray) compared to a prospect for MLB (like Murray) hen you will probably make more money as an NFL player and the money will be more certain, but drop much below the 1st round and the guaranteed contracts and MLB will probably be a better choice, all things being equal. Of course, if you love one sport and have dreamed of playing it, then that is an entirely different subject.
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Somebody pinch me because I must be dreaming. This fellow Matt Rhule comes from coaching at Temple and Baylor - not exactly football powerhouses, I don't believe - has no head coaching experience on the pro level; indeed, has only one year of any coaching experience on the pro level (assistant offensive line coach), and the Carolina Panthers hire him for "up to" (whatever that means) $10 million per year for seven years?
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Tepper is the richest owner in the league and coach salary doesn't count against the cap. If that's what it takes to get your guy then go for it. It's not like they were bidding against themselves, he was highly sought after.
He made instant turnarounds in two places. Baylor was left for dead after the art briles scandals and in three years they are in the sugar bowl. He wasnt winning because of superior recruiting like a coach from a college powerhouse who can watch the machine work by itself. Last edited by dkgo; 01-07-2020 at 04:10 PM. |
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The Rhule and Judge hirings just reinforce a basic truth of American life: It pays to be a white dude.
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It pays a lot more to be a black dude named Mahomes, Watson, Prescott, Jackson, and that little guy in Arizona come contract time. They'll be making a ton more money than those two white dudes. |
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Yes, given opportunity the best QBs will flourish even if they are black. It's a pity the opportunities aren't there for minority coaches. Far better to take a WR coach for a team with terrible wide receivers or a college coach who has a losing record at his current job as long as they're white guys.
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I can't say the recent hires ignored qualified candidates based on race because, frankly, no one knows for sure who will be a good coach. So I don't think we could definitively say this or that one was overlooked until that one is hired and succeeds. But I can see why it would raise eyebrows when they see someone like Joe Judge get a prestige job like the Giants. One of the main reasons we hear men of color don't get hired as HC's is because they aren't in the position to call plays as OC/DC. But Judge gets picked despite having never been an OC/DC. And his 1st year as WR coach saw NE's offensive output plummet mainly because of the poor performance of the wideouts. So if a black man is expected to "work his way up", why is Judge plucked up from obscurity? Doesn't mean Gettlemen didn't indeed find the right man for the job. But if he fails, then I can't blame others for questioning if he would have made the same aggressive move if Judge wasn't white.
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How is that going to make you feel? What are you going to conclude, even if it is temporarily in the back of your mind? Sure, we can't define attractiveness for everyone. But if you're honest, you are going to think she doesn't like white guys. No matter how much she may claim otherwise. You're also going to wonder if your inclusion in the pool was just to satisfy a diversity requirement. That's what this Judge hire looks like on the surface. That's what is going on with these HC hires. When you have guys with previous failures or lesser experience getting selected and only one man of color getting interviewed, questions enter the mind. Does the prescribed prerequisites, climbing the ladder and hard work matter? In some front offices, I can't say for certain which ones, I'm sure it doesn't. Even if it is only a subconscious factor. Those ones aren't going to put a man of color in charge.
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And you are also right that who you know is a big deal, which can make it hard for minority candidates to break into the club. Part of the Rooney Rule is to get coaches who wouldn't otherwise be considered the chance to be in front of the right people. You can't conclude anything based on one hire and no one knows how any of these coaches are going to do in the NFL. But there does seem to be a pattern that raises questions as to if minority coaches are getting the same chances. I will add to be fair, Brian Flores was hired without ever being a coordinator either. |
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