Bug report thread - Page 55

Kemp · 09-08-2012, 07:55 AM

I have players in my league who get signed, released, signed, released, etc, over and over again! I've attached a snippet of one of the player pages; this particular guy has been signed and released almost FOUR HUNDRED TIMES during his 11 year career!! If you look closely at the screenshot I've attached, you'll notice that a lot of those occur on the same day.

Anyone else have this problem??

SandMan · 09-08-2012, 01:52 PM

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Eumel · 09-09-2012, 01:46 PM

On the Season & Career Records screen, the pitcher list for the most games in a season seems off. Only players who have started at least one game are listed, but with their totals of games as starter and reliever.

This list should also include players that have never started a game, but have only been used as relievers.

The career record list does this correctly, so this indeed looks like a bug.

Interestingly enough, the season saves list also only lists starters, which is quite pointless.

Edit:

On a related note, two more observations:

The career record lists for pitchers are also updated during the season, while those for hitters are not.

For pitchers, during the first season, the WAR values in the season and career lists are different. I'm not sure what's going on there, as WAR is supposed to be computed the same way in both lists. All values seem slightly off.

siobhan · 09-10-2012, 11:42 PM

Kind of related to the above post, and it's probably been mentioned somewhere else, but career WAR for batters is also calculated incorrectly. It's being treated like VORP divided by 10. It's calculated, to my knowledge, correctly for single seasons, and it's relatively correct for both single-season and career WAR for pitchers; with career batting stats is the only time this occurs.

rpriske · 09-11-2012, 09:25 AM

The last few games I have played I have noticed the announcer getting the batting average wrong once per game for a specific player.

J.P. Arencibia is hitting around .145 (sigh) but the first time he come sup every game the announcer says he is hitting .181. No matter what his actual avg is, it always says .181

Another thing, which may not be a bug, everytime Andrew Tinnish (scouting director) gives me the advance scout on the team I am facing, the pitchers he says we will likely face are wrong. I know it shouldn't always be right but they are ALWAYS wrong. Probables don't change that much.

pstrickert · 09-11-2012, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eumel

Something still seems to be amiss with the Zone Rating computations. Look at the numbers of the center fielders after a dozen or so games. +25 is a very good number for a whole season of 162 games. So these ZR numbers surely aren't right, off by factor 10 or so. All other positions seem to look alright, so this may be a CF specific bug.

Edit: I reloaded the game and now the CF stats are alright, but the RF Zone Ratings are sky high. Quite an odd bug, it seems...

You'll probably have to upload your league files.

rpriske · 09-12-2012, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpriske

The last few games I have played I have noticed the announcer getting the batting average wrong once per game for a specific player.

J.P. Arencibia is hitting around .145 (sigh) but the first time he come sup every game the announcer says he is hitting .181. No matter what his actual avg is, it always says .181

Another thing, which may not be a bug, everytime Andrew Tinnish (scouting director) gives me the advance scout on the team I am facing, the pitchers he says we will likely face are wrong. I know it shouldn't always be right but they are ALWAYS wrong. Probables don't change that much.

Update: It isn't always .181 but it IS always wrong.

Could it be because he spent some time in AAA?

BallFan · 09-12-2012, 12:50 PM

I've been trying to play a league association playoffs between the winners of five leagues in the Caribbean. I simulated the first two rounds just fine, but now I'm trying to watch the final round games "live". However, when I press "Mayaguez Substitutions" or "Havana Substitutions" just to take a look at the rosters in-game, the program (for MAC) crashes to desktop....

Is it something wrong with how I set up the association? Or is it because I made it so that the leagues in the association have different numbers of players (like, in this case the Cuban League has only like 18 players while the Puerto Rican league has like 26)?

I mean, I can just simulate through this for now, but later on when I take up the reins of a team I'd really like to be able to play in games without it crashing if I want to check my roster or make changes.

beorn · 09-13-2012, 06:53 PM

1) All high school players come from average competition. I have seen in ammy drafts in several leagues, although not all leagues.

2) Quite a few players have not stats at all.

3) Some players' competition level is blank.

(I have seen the first two problems repeatedly in other leagues, but #3 only in this one online league.)

Dreifort · 09-16-2012, 12:47 AM

I am trying to recreate a historical era type league. I want to use pitchers on field as fielders and as pitchers.

My #1 SP (Bob Gaylord) in my rotation is also my backup 1B - starting every 3rd game in place of the #1 1B.

Sometimes, when the "every 3rd game" at 1B lines up with his turn to pitch, he plays both positions according to the box score. His stats are just duplicated for the 2nd position.

(see screenshot)

termcl · 09-16-2012, 07:07 PM

I think there may be a possible bug involving AI handling of the playoff rosters when players are placed on the disabled list.

A little background information: I started an MLB league in 2010 with OOTP11. A few months ago, I updated the league to OOTP 13. It is now 2014 in my league and playoffs time. I'm playing out my games as the White Sox and we are facing the Texas Rangers in the Divisional Finals.
In one of the past off-seasons via league evolution the 15-day disabled list was increased to a 22-day DL (much more interesting injury management situations, but I'm okay with that.)

According to the OOTP rules listed on the team's playoff roster screen: If a player is placed on the 60-day DL after roster expansion or on the 15-day DL (in my case 22-day DL) during the playoffs, he can be replaced by any player currently on the active roster. This is all fine and well.

In my league, the Texas Rangers' Ian Kinsler was injured on 9/10, placed on the 22-day DL and Robert Andino was called up from AAA to take his spot. Then on 9/13, Tommy Hunter was injured, placed on the 60-day DL, and Tim Stauffer was called up from AAA. Again, according to OOTP rules, Hunter can be replaced on the playoff roster. The playoffs start and both Andino and Stauffer are on the playoff roster! I see how one or the other (or any other player on the active roster for that matter) can replace Hunter but not both. There were no other 60-day DL injuries for the Rangers after roster expansion and no playoff injuries. So how did both players end up on the playoff roster? Is this a bug?

The Game · 09-16-2012, 08:33 PM

Perhaps I have something setup odd and perhaps i am missing it. I have my game set to UTC 6 hours Central Standard Time in a custom league. The game time shows A.M. vs P.M. so my team is set to play today at 3 A.M. today vs 3 P.M. and when I save a game in progress the game shows 3:50 A.M. and then when finished it shows the game done at say 6:02 A.M.

posty333 · 09-17-2012, 09:57 PM

I started a fictional league starting in 1900. I sim through the seasons, and at the end of the playoffs I go back to review the box scores of the series. When I got to the end of the 1902 playoffs and went back to look, the playoffs were not showing on the schedule. In fact, the entire schedule for the year had disappeared. If I went into a player's game log, their stats were there, but all of the games said "Loss 0-0" as the result of the game. I could click on that to get the correct box score.

I decided to start over. I think I had an earlier saved version of the same game. This time, I was able to get all of the way until 1920 before this happened again. This time, I happened to look at the league standings and noticed that there were two new teams there. The league had expanded after the playoffs were over. The new teams were in that season's standings with 0-0 record. I went back to the game I had abandoned and checked the standings there. There had been a two-team expansion in that league as well. So, that leads me to believe the expansion is what triggered the vanishing schedule.

I guess I will start a new game and turn off expansion. I actually want to control that part anyway.

Bowtie · 09-19-2012, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpriske

The last few games I have played I have noticed the announcer getting the batting average wrong once per game for a specific player.

J.P. Arencibia is hitting around .145 (sigh) but the first time he come sup every game the announcer says he is hitting .181. No matter what his actual avg is, it always says .181

Another thing, which may not be a bug, everytime Andrew Tinnish (scouting director) gives me the advance scout on the team I am facing, the pitchers he says we will likely face are wrong. I know it shouldn't always be right but they are ALWAYS wrong. Probables don't change that much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpriske

Update: It isn't always .181 but it IS always wrong.

Could it be because he spent some time in AAA?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BallFan

I've been trying to play a league association playoffs between the winners of five leagues in the Caribbean. I simulated the first two rounds just fine, but now I'm trying to watch the final round games "live". However, when I press "Mayaguez Substitutions" or "Havana Substitutions" just to take a look at the rosters in-game, the program (for MAC) crashes to desktop....

Is it something wrong with how I set up the association? Or is it because I made it so that the leagues in the association have different numbers of players (like, in this case the Cuban League has only like 18 players while the Puerto Rican league has like 26)?

I mean, I can just simulate through this for now, but later on when I take up the reins of a team I'd really like to be able to play in games without it crashing if I want to check my roster or make changes.

rpriske & BallFan:

We need both of you guys to please upload your league files, especially yours BallFan. The only files we need are the .dat files - no folders needed. Also, please let me know what you name your files and I will point the developers to your files.

Here's the link to the instructions how to FTP (upload) your files to us:
How to FTP files to OOTP Developments - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software

Thanks!

Bowtie · 09-19-2012, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BallFan

I've been trying to play a league association playoffs between the winners of five leagues in the Caribbean. I simulated the first two rounds just fine, but now I'm trying to watch the final round games "live". However, when I press "Mayaguez Substitutions" or "Havana Substitutions" just to take a look at the rosters in-game, the program (for MAC) crashes to desktop....

Is it something wrong with how I set up the association? Or is it because I made it so that the leagues in the association have different numbers of players (like, in this case the Cuban League has only like 18 players while the Puerto Rican league has like 26)?

I mean, I can just simulate through this for now, but later on when I take up the reins of a team I'd really like to be able to play in games without it crashing if I want to check my roster or make changes.

This issue has been logged as PT-3802

beorn · 09-19-2012, 06:40 AM

Not exactly a bug, but I see it as a significant glitch:

In an online league using 1-8 rating scale:
My team starts a shortstop who is rated a 7 defensively at ss (and also has an 8 at 2b)
Also starts a weak hitting second baseman rated a 7

Every time a pinch hitter is used for the second baseman, afterwards, the replacement infielder is put at shortstop where he has a 3 rating, instead of at 2b where he has a 7 rating. I am assuming that this is because the shortstop can be moved to 2b where he has an 8 rating.

Yet, this makes NO sense! To have an 8-3 combination is inferior to having a 7-7 combination.

rpriske · 09-19-2012, 09:34 AM

I don't know if this counts as a bag or a feature request but the way the game makes you substitute players after an injury is wrong.

Currently, if a payer gets injured you have to replace him immediately, no matter what the situation. Really the player should only have to change the next time they are scheduled to take the field or bat.

Example:

Johnny Damon was on 1st and tried to steal 2nd. He was called out and was hurt on the play. I was forced to replace him right away, even though he was no longer active in the game.

In fact, there was 2 out and the pitcher was due up second. What I WANTED to do was wait to see if the pitcher got up and then use the player I wanted to bring in for Damon to pinch hit, but I wasn't able to because the game forced me to substitute right away.

I think that is wrong.

endgame · 09-19-2012, 10:29 AM

It is wrong, and it is a feature request; one that's been on the table for multiple versions, but is, apparently very problematic to code. But we will continue sounding the trumpets.

funkadillo · 09-24-2012, 05:29 AM

Major bug here. My starting pitcher was injured on the last pitch of the 1st inning, but it didn't make me replace him.

Then he's still in there to start the 2nd, and I'm able to keep pitching with him, even though when I open up his profile it shows he's out for 6 weeks.

subtle · 09-25-2012, 04:07 PM

I hate to repost this, but it's really frustrating: my league won't generate a full first round of the draft. It does this every season. It also does it in other leagues I create in OOTP 13.

09-08-2012, 07:55 AM	#1081
Kemp All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,181	I have players in my league who get signed, released, signed, released, etc, over and over again! I've attached a snippet of one of the player pages; this particular guy has been signed and released almost FOUR HUNDRED TIMES during his 11 year career!! If you look closely at the screenshot I've attached, you'll notice that a lot of those occur on the same day. Anyone else have this problem?? Attached Images

09-08-2012, 01:52 PM	#1082
SandMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,946	nm Last edited by SandMan; 09-08-2012 at 01:58 PM.

09-09-2012, 01:46 PM	#1083
Eumel Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 499	On the Season & Career Records screen, the pitcher list for the most games in a season seems off. Only players who have started at least one game are listed, but with their totals of games as starter and reliever. This list should also include players that have never started a game, but have only been used as relievers. The career record list does this correctly, so this indeed looks like a bug. Interestingly enough, the season saves list also only lists starters, which is quite pointless. Edit: On a related note, two more observations: The career record lists for pitchers are also updated during the season, while those for hitters are not. For pitchers, during the first season, the WAR values in the season and career lists are different. I'm not sure what's going on there, as WAR is supposed to be computed the same way in both lists. All values seem slightly off. Last edited by Eumel; 09-09-2012 at 01:58 PM.

09-12-2012, 12:50 PM	#1088
BallFan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 144	I've been trying to play a league association playoffs between the winners of five leagues in the Caribbean. I simulated the first two rounds just fine, but now I'm trying to watch the final round games "live". However, when I press "Mayaguez Substitutions" or "Havana Substitutions" just to take a look at the rosters in-game, the program (for MAC) crashes to desktop.... Is it something wrong with how I set up the association? Or is it because I made it so that the leagues in the association have different numbers of players (like, in this case the Cuban League has only like 18 players while the Puerto Rican league has like 26)? I mean, I can just simulate through this for now, but later on when I take up the reins of a team I'd really like to be able to play in games without it crashing if I want to check my roster or make changes. __________________ Last edited by BallFan; 09-12-2012 at 12:54 PM.

09-13-2012, 06:53 PM	#1089
beorn All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: near Rochester, NY Posts: 1,269	Ammy draft irregularities in past performances of players 1) All high school players come from average competition. I have seen in ammy drafts in several leagues, although not all leagues. 2) Quite a few players have not stats at all. 3) Some players' competition level is blank. (I have seen the first two problems repeatedly in other leagues, but #3 only in this one online league.) __________________ Commish of Dog Days Baseball Commish Pennant Chase Baseball League (PCBL) Commish and Blue Jays GM Extra Innings Baseball Last edited by beorn; 09-13-2012 at 06:55 PM.

09-10-2012, 11:42 PM	#1084
siobhan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 81	Kind of related to the above post, and it's probably been mentioned somewhere else, but career WAR for batters is also calculated incorrectly. It's being treated like VORP divided by 10. It's calculated, to my knowledge, correctly for single seasons, and it's relatively correct for both single-season and career WAR for pitchers; with career batting stats is the only time this occurs.

09-11-2012, 09:25 AM	#1085
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 23,973 Blog Entries: 1	The last few games I have played I have noticed the announcer getting the batting average wrong once per game for a specific player. J.P. Arencibia is hitting around .145 (sigh) but the first time he come sup every game the announcer says he is hitting .181. No matter what his actual avg is, it always says .181 Another thing, which may not be a bug, everytime Andrew Tinnish (scouting director) gives me the advance scout on the team I am facing, the pitchers he says we will likely face are wrong. I know it shouldn't always be right but they are ALWAYS wrong. Probables don't change that much.

09-16-2012, 12:47 AM	#1090
Dreifort Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 307	using pitchers as fielders I am trying to recreate a historical era type league. I want to use pitchers on field as fielders and as pitchers. My #1 SP (Bob Gaylord) in my rotation is also my backup 1B - starting every 3rd game in place of the #1 1B. Sometimes, when the "every 3rd game" at 1B lines up with his turn to pitch, he plays both positions according to the box score. His stats are just duplicated for the 2nd position. (see screenshot) Attached Images __________________ ________________________________________________ Coming soon! Legendary Baseball League.... stay tuned!

09-16-2012, 07:07 PM	#1091
termcl Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 121	Playoff Rosters and the Disabled List I think there may be a possible bug involving AI handling of the playoff rosters when players are placed on the disabled list. A little background information: I started an MLB league in 2010 with OOTP11. A few months ago, I updated the league to OOTP 13. It is now 2014 in my league and playoffs time. I'm playing out my games as the White Sox and we are facing the Texas Rangers in the Divisional Finals. In one of the past off-seasons via league evolution the 15-day disabled list was increased to a 22-day DL (much more interesting injury management situations, but I'm okay with that.) According to the OOTP rules listed on the team's playoff roster screen: If a player is placed on the 60-day DL after roster expansion or on the 15-day DL (in my case 22-day DL) during the playoffs, he can be replaced by any player currently on the active roster. This is all fine and well. In my league, the Texas Rangers' Ian Kinsler was injured on 9/10, placed on the 22-day DL and Robert Andino was called up from AAA to take his spot. Then on 9/13, Tommy Hunter was injured, placed on the 60-day DL, and Tim Stauffer was called up from AAA. Again, according to OOTP rules, Hunter can be replaced on the playoff roster. The playoffs start and both Andino and Stauffer are on the playoff roster! I see how one or the other (or any other player on the active roster for that matter) can replace Hunter but not both. There were no other 60-day DL injuries for the Rangers after roster expansion and no playoff injuries. So how did both players end up on the playoff roster? Is this a bug?

09-16-2012, 08:33 PM	#1092
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,803	Perhaps I have something setup odd and perhaps i am missing it. I have my game set to UTC 6 hours Central Standard Time in a custom league. The game time shows A.M. vs P.M. so my team is set to play today at 3 A.M. today vs 3 P.M. and when I save a game in progress the game shows 3:50 A.M. and then when finished it shows the game done at say 6:02 A.M.

09-17-2012, 09:57 PM	#1093
posty333 Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8	I started a fictional league starting in 1900. I sim through the seasons, and at the end of the playoffs I go back to review the box scores of the series. When I got to the end of the 1902 playoffs and went back to look, the playoffs were not showing on the schedule. In fact, the entire schedule for the year had disappeared. If I went into a player's game log, their stats were there, but all of the games said "Loss 0-0" as the result of the game. I could click on that to get the correct box score. I decided to start over. I think I had an earlier saved version of the same game. This time, I was able to get all of the way until 1920 before this happened again. This time, I happened to look at the league standings and noticed that there were two new teams there. The league had expanded after the playoffs were over. The new teams were in that season's standings with 0-0 record. I went back to the game I had abandoned and checked the standings there. There had been a two-team expansion in that league as well. So, that leads me to believe the expansion is what triggered the vanishing schedule. I guess I will start a new game and turn off expansion. I actually want to control that part anyway.

09-19-2012, 06:40 AM	#1096
beorn All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: near Rochester, NY Posts: 1,269	Not exactly a bug, but I see it as a significant glitch: In an online league using 1-8 rating scale: My team starts a shortstop who is rated a 7 defensively at ss (and also has an 8 at 2b) Also starts a weak hitting second baseman rated a 7 Every time a pinch hitter is used for the second baseman, afterwards, the replacement infielder is put at shortstop where he has a 3 rating, instead of at 2b where he has a 7 rating. I am assuming that this is because the shortstop can be moved to 2b where he has an 8 rating. Yet, this makes NO sense! To have an 8-3 combination is inferior to having a 7-7 combination. __________________ Commish of Dog Days Baseball Commish Pennant Chase Baseball League (PCBL) Commish and Blue Jays GM Extra Innings Baseball

09-19-2012, 09:34 AM	#1097
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 23,973 Blog Entries: 1	I don't know if this counts as a bag or a feature request but the way the game makes you substitute players after an injury is wrong. Currently, if a payer gets injured you have to replace him immediately, no matter what the situation. Really the player should only have to change the next time they are scheduled to take the field or bat. Example: Johnny Damon was on 1st and tried to steal 2nd. He was called out and was hurt on the play. I was forced to replace him right away, even though he was no longer active in the game. In fact, there was 2 out and the pitcher was due up second. What I WANTED to do was wait to see if the pitcher got up and then use the player I wanted to bring in for Damon to pinch hit, but I wasn't able to because the game forced me to substitute right away. I think that is wrong.

09-19-2012, 10:29 AM	#1098
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,843	It is wrong, and it is a feature request; one that's been on the table for multiple versions, but is, apparently very problematic to code. But we will continue sounding the trumpets. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

09-24-2012, 05:29 AM	#1099
funkadillo Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 246	Major bug here. My starting pitcher was injured on the last pitch of the 1st inning, but it didn't make me replace him. Then he's still in there to start the 2nd, and I'm able to keep pitching with him, even though when I open up his profile it shows he's out for 6 weeks.

09-25-2012, 04:07 PM	#1100
subtle Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 85	I hate to repost this, but it's really frustrating: my league won't generate a full first round of the draft. It does this every season. It also does it in other leagues I create in OOTP 13.