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Qwerty75 · 03-08-2014, 06:50 PM

Does playing in Spring Training games have an effect on player development? I ask because I remember that several versions ago some prospects would see their ratings skyrocket after playing in spring games, but it doesn't seem to have such an effect anymore.

kq76 · 03-08-2014, 07:02 PM

Woot! I can't say this was ever on my top 10 wishlist, but I have to say it's very cool to have it now. Thanks, Markus!

Déjà Bru · 03-08-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

Not which pants he has on, which pants he pees on.

Ah! Now I get you. You're a sly one, Mr. Wolf.

Fyrestorm3 · 03-08-2014, 07:58 PM

I never thought I'd be excited for an update to Spring Training (I usually sim through it, myself), but this is just fantastic. Every new feature announced for this version gets me more excited for it.

Righty Groove · 03-08-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwerty75

Does playing in Spring Training games have an effect on player development? I ask because I remember that several versions ago some prospects would see their ratings skyrocket after playing in spring games, but it doesn't seem to have such an effect anymore.

Yes, it does, from my own experience, alltough to what degree is debatable, and depends on several factors.

I find ST to be specially usefull to teach a player a new position, and get him ratings for that position. For example, a SS with low ratings on 2b/3b, I'll definetely play him there in ST (to add versatility). Or a 3B who is getting older and lacks the range, but doesn't have a rating in 1B, ST is an excellent opportunity. A corner OF learning to play the opposite corner, and so on. Players, specially young ones, gain position ratings much faster in ST.

Qwerty75 · 03-09-2014, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Righty Groove

Yes, it does, from my own experience, alltough to what degree is debatable, and depends on several factors.

I find ST to be specially usefull to teach a player a new position, and get him ratings for that position. For example, a SS with low ratings on 2b/3b, I'll definetely play him there in ST (to add versatility). Or a 3B who is getting older and lacks the range, but doesn't have a rating in 1B, ST is an excellent opportunity. A corner OF learning to play the opposite corner, and so on. Players, specially young ones, gain position ratings much faster in ST.

Yes, I'm aware that players pick up experience points at defensive positions faster in ST than during the regular season.

I meant more specifically the development of core hitting and pitching ratings. There was a more noticeable effect way back when. I'm wondering now if playing ST games promotes or hurts this kind of development directly, and if so, to what extent.

The Game · 03-09-2014, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

LOL some people will be peeing themselves with excitement.

Yep.

bwburke94 · 03-09-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by le receveur

Will we have to make a decision on veteran Non-roster invitees with 5 days left in training camp (or pay them a $100,000 bonus)?

The way NRIs work in this game are that they are minor league contracts with major league options. So the cutoff date is Opening Day.

jayhawk1106 · 03-10-2014, 09:12 AM

All I need now is WBC implementation, and I'd pre-order the next second!

nutt · 03-10-2014, 07:45 PM

have the minor league w/major league option deals been re-worked to mirror what they look like in MLB? a la, 30, 60, or 90 day deals? Can the 30/60 option, if in the game, be available 30/60 days after opening day? I.E. sign a player on July 15th, and if he's not called up by August 14th on a 30-day clause, he is released?

le receveur · 03-10-2014, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

The way NRIs work in this game are that they are minor league contracts with major league options. So the cutoff date is Opening Day.

thanks. in RL do you need a major league option to qualify for the $100,000?

Le Grande Orange · 03-11-2014, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by le receveur

thanks. in RL do you need a major league option to qualify for the $100,000?

Here is a (mostly) plain English description of how it works:

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If an Article XX-B MLB free-agent signs a minor league contract at least ten days prior to MLB Opening Day, and then is either not released by 12 PM (Eastern) on the 5th day prior to MLB Opening Day or added to an MLB Active List (25-man roster) or MLB Disabled List by 3 PM (Eastern) on MLB Opening Day, the player automatically receives a $100,000 retention bonus, and the player can unilaterally opt-out of the minor league contract on June 1st if he has not been added to an MLB Active List (25-man roster) or an MLB Disabled List by that date.

Source

In other words, being a non-roster invitee has nothing to do with the retention bonus. It's all about whether a (major league) free agent was signed to a minor league contract prior to opening day and whether he was added to the active roster before the regular season starts.

nutt · 03-11-2014, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Here is a (mostly) plain English description of how it works:

In other words, being a non-roster invitee has nothing to do with the retention bonus. It's all about whether a (major league) free agent was signed to a minor league contract prior to opening day and whether he was added to the active roster before the regular season starts.

They must have a minimum six years of ML service time, and IIRC, spent a minimum of one day on the 25-day (or 40 after 9/1) active roster the previous season to qualify for the bonus.

Le Grande Orange · 03-11-2014, 02:26 AM

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They must have a minimum six years of ML service time...

Yes, that's what the "major league free agent" refers to, the guys who qualify as a result of acquiring six years of ML service and whose contract has expired.

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Originally Posted by nutt

...and IIRC, spent a minimum of one day on the 25-day (or 40 after 9/1) active roster the previous season to qualify for the bonus.

There's nothing in the CBA that states that, as far as I can see.

rudel.dietrich · 03-11-2014, 02:27 AM

This may of been asked and answered, but I have not read all four pages.
Are we allowed to specify where Spring training is held or can we create unique spring training stadiums?
With the option to create teams/leagues based upon a certain state or region, it would be nice to tell OOTP you want a division or league to hold spring training in a state/region

If I create a European league for instance it would be nice for my 'cold weather' teams from northern Europe to hold their spring training (or whenever pre season is held) in Spain and Italy or the South of France.

Or if I am creating a league from the western US I could indicate I want Spring Training held in New Mexico/Arizona for instance.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-11-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

This may of been asked and answered, but I have not read all four pages.
Are we allowed to specify where Spring training is held or can we create unique spring training stadiums?

No, sorry.

The Wolf · 03-11-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

No, sorry.

Something for future versions.

pat · 03-11-2014, 11:12 PM

Thank you, Markus.

This will definitely come in handy.

le receveur · 03-12-2014, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Yes, that's what the "major league free agent" refers to, the guys who qualify as a result of acquiring six years of ML service and whose contract has expired.

There's nothing in the CBA that states that, as far as I can see.

that makes sense. thank you...

le receveur · 03-12-2014, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Here is a (mostly) plain English description of how it works:

In other words, being a non-roster invitee has nothing to do with the retention bonus. It's all about whether a (major league) free agent was signed to a minor league contract prior to opening day and whether he was added to the active roster before the regular season starts.

i'm confused with something in the link:

CUBS ARTICLE XX-B MINOR LEAGUE PLAYERS SPRING TRAINING 2014: (last updated 1-24-2014)
Tsuyoshi Wada, LHP

Wada does not have 6 year of service... Is there special rules for international players?

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Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	I never thought I'd be excited for an update to Spring Training (I usually sim through it, myself), but this is just fantastic. Every new feature announced for this version gets me more excited for it.

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nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,076	have the minor league w/major league option deals been re-worked to mirror what they look like in MLB? a la, 30, 60, or 90 day deals? Can the 30/60 option, if in the game, be available 30/60 days after opening day? I.E. sign a player on July 15th, and if he's not called up by August 14th on a 30-day clause, he is released?

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	This may of been asked and answered, but I have not read all four pages. Are we allowed to specify where Spring training is held or can we create unique spring training stadiums? With the option to create teams/leagues based upon a certain state or region, it would be nice to tell OOTP you want a division or league to hold spring training in a state/region If I create a European league for instance it would be nice for my 'cold weather' teams from northern Europe to hold their spring training (or whenever pre season is held) in Spain and Italy or the South of France. Or if I am creating a league from the western US I could indicate I want Spring Training held in New Mexico/Arizona for instance.