First OOTP 15 Screenshots!

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

Probably not possible but it would be awesome if we had the option of selecting the stats that we want to see in that area and the wider screens giving us more of them.

That would be tons of work, unfortunately.

[ThatSeventiesGuy]

Great look, and the default facegens look much improved. Anxiously awaiting this one!

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

I think the start up screens look good. I'm very excited by what I have seen so far. I would like to offer up some criticisms, if I may.

1. I think the ratings bars have taken a step backwards. There is no depth, no shading, and no contrast. They need shading around the edges or a bevel or something. There is no contrast between the bars and the background.

2. On the top of the player pages the menu tabs completely blend into one another. I think you should have a border around each menu tab or some degree of separation to provide depth.

3. The menu tabs and team color bars that change in realtion to each team's colors look like they will only have a single tone of color and a single color of text. While 2 is what we are used to I do think the bars need shading and contrast.

4. Not a fan of the new horizontal scores. I much preferred two vertical columns. 2 columns feels more natural.

5. I thought you were going to put the most-recent years stats on the top or set the scroll bar to start at the bottom.


That's all I have for the moment. I think you have have gotten plenty of well-deserved pats on the back already so I thought I'd offer something, perhaps, more valuable to you. An opinion.

Good post, HP. On second look, I notice that in addition to appearing sleek, the new interface also looks flat.

In support of two of HP's points (I agree with all of them), take a look at these side-by-sides. On the left is 15, on the right is 14. The lack of depth is noticeable and, while 15 does look crisp and clean, it is lacking a bit in character, for want of a better term.

Pictures tell a thousand words, so see for yourself:

[Greeney03]

I like the 'flat' interface. Facegen looks really good too!

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

The facegen is still work in progress and far from finished... Things will look much better in the end.

Well, I missed this before I posted above, so all right! I'm sure the final facegen version will look good. Maybe just bevel the ratings bars just a bit, as they looked in 14.

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Yep, he gave us permission to use it in OOTP 15

Bravo! Another example of the designer/community collaboration that makes this game great.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Yep, he gave us permission to use it in OOTP 15

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Bravo! Another example of the designer/community collaboration that makes this game great.

Hmmm. In addition to his facial hair mod, maybe ask Bobble for his thumbs up / thumbs down player mood indicators? So much better than the happy/frowny faces . . .

These:

[sandman2575]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Good post, HP. On second look, I notice that in addition to appearing sleek, the new interface also looks flat.

In support of two of HP's points (I agree with all of them), take a look at these side-by-sides. On the left is 15, on the right is 14. The lack of depth is noticeable and, while 15 does look crisp and clean, it is lacking a bit in character, for want of a better term.

Pictures tell a thousand words, so see for yourself:

Put side by side like this, 15's graphics really do look like a step backward from 14 . Of course, I guess this kind of thing is bound to be subjective and a matter of taste/preference.

I can already guess the answer, but here goes: might it be possible to have a "OOTP14 Skin" as an option in 15? I'm sure the FaceGen will improve, but I just very much prefer 14's UI, and the feeling of texture/depth with the buttons, to 15's flat "iOS" appearance.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by sandman2575

I can already guess the answer, but here goes: might it be possible to have a "OOTP14 Skin" as an option in 15? I'm sure the FaceGen will improve, but I just very much prefer 14's UI, and the feeling of texture/depth with the buttons, to 15's flat "iOS" appearance.

Not a bad idea at all. I should clarify, though, that I do like the new interface for the most part, particularly the font rendition. It's just that HP's post made me take a second look and what he criticized rang true. Just a few tweaks would do the trick.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Hmmm. In addition to his facial hair mod, maybe ask Bobble for his thumbs up / thumbs down player mood indicators? So much better than the happy/frowny faces . . .

These:

Definitely not.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Good post, HP. On second look, I notice that in addition to appearing sleek, the new interface also looks flat.

In support of two of HP's points (I agree with all of them), take a look at these side-by-sides. On the left is 15, on the right is 14. The lack of depth is noticeable and, while 15 does look crisp and clean, it is lacking a bit in character, for want of a better term.

Well, I personally like the ratings bars so much more now, the ones from OOTP 14 look really outdated. It becomes more obvious when you spend time with OOTP 15 and then have to fire up OOTP 14 again, which I have recently, obviously

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by sandman2575

Put side by side like this, 15's graphics really do look like a step backward from 14 . Of course, I guess this kind of thing is bound to be subjective and a matter of taste/preference.

I can already guess the answer, but here goes: might it be possible to have a "OOTP14 Skin" as an option in 15? I'm sure the FaceGen will improve, but I just very much prefer 14's UI, and the feeling of texture/depth with the buttons, to 15's flat "iOS" appearance.

Nope sorry. I we'd try to please everyone, we'd have to include at least 25 different skins I fear. :P

We were sure that a few people would not like the change, but that's just the nature of change generally. There isn't one solution that everyone likes.

[Déjà Bru]

Well, it's all a matter of taste. Overall, it looks good. Carry on, then!

[pjh5165]

Very small thing, but I love the new location for the "global search" bar. Much more convenient

[silvam14]

I trust that by release time, Things will be sorted out nicely

[sandman2575]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Nope sorry. I we'd try to please everyone, we'd have to include at least 25 different skins I fear. :P

We were sure that a few people would not like the change, but that's just the nature of change generally. There isn't one solution that everyone likes.

Ah well. I'm sure I'll adjust.

[cephasjames]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

take a look at these side-by-sides. On the left is 15, on the right is 14. The lack of depth is noticeable and, while 15 does look crisp and clean, it is lacking a bit in character, for want of a better term.

Pictures tell a thousand words, so see for yourself:

For the FaceGen pictures you compared 15's game created player picture with 14's user created, from a real picture, player picture. That's not a very fair comparison.

[le receveur]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, I personally like the ratings bars so much more now, the ones from OOTP 14 look really outdated. It becomes more obvious when you spend time with OOTP 15 and then have to fire up OOTP 14 again, which I have recently, obviously

i'm sure we will all get use to it, however i would highlight that i really can't see the difference between actual 12 and potential 13 in this one:

[rpriske]

The graphics are a bit disappointing, but no so much that they will take away from the game experience.

Honestly to me they look like a before and after shot in the wrong direction.

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Yep, he gave us permission to use it in OOTP 15

Just when I thought I couldn't get more excited about this game...

[BIG17EASY]

I definitely do not like the new ratings bars, particularly for the lack of contrast between actual and potential ratings. But everything else looks pretty solid. I won't comment on FaceGen since Markus said that's still being worked on.