14.4.23 breaks a feature

bailey · 08-06-2013, 07:08 PM

The "Player of the Week" award is now based on stats complied from Monday through Sunday instead of Sunday through Saturday. Also, pitchers have a higher chance of winning it now.

Not exactly sure what the motivation for this is, but the game is now not consistent with what a 'week' is.

7 day lineups reading left to right ---Sunday-Saturday
last week stats (under split for either batters or pitchers)--- Sunday-Saturday
Player of the Week Award formerly in agreement, now it is not.

I would like the option to go back to Sunday-Saturday for Player of the Week.

I went to a great deal of trouble to create a customized schedule that follows the Sunday-Saturday week and now it's all for nothing. My schedule features 6 or 7 game series between 2 teams each week for the whole season. It makes sense for the player of the week to be based on stats from the set of games against a single team and now it won't be.

An alternate solution is to have 7 day lineups and 'last week' stats also be based on Monday - Sunday. My schedule is easy enough to alter for that solution. Whatever is decided, please, make it consistent throughout the game!

mpejkrm · 08-06-2013, 07:30 PM

Thanks for letting me know. Have not updated yet.

Questdog · 08-06-2013, 07:44 PM

Hey! Bailey! Long time no speak!

Anyways, last week's stats ARE Monday to Sunday....

As you can see from this player's record (June 6 was a Sunday and not included):

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And if you do the 'split' on a list of players, you get the same results there as on the Player Page.....Monday through Sunday

I agree that the 7-day lineups should start on a Monday, but that is just a cosmetic issue....

The reason for the change is that Monday is the start of a new week, not Sunday....new series almost invariably begin on Monday and Sunday is the end of a series 99.9% of the time.....

If Sunday is the first day of the week, why is it a part of the weekEND?.....

The Game · 08-06-2013, 08:02 PM

Since when does the week start on a Monday?

bailey · 08-06-2013, 08:10 PM

Are you saying 'last week' stats are based on Monday-Sunday and that Markus omitted this change in the list of changes? That would make sense.

Now, hopefully, 7-day lineups can be changed to read Monday-Sunday. I can change my schedule to start on a Monday, I guess.

byzeil · 08-06-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Questdog

Hey! Bailey! Long time no speak!
Anyways, last week's stats ARE Monday to Sunday....

Yes, the split for 'Last Weeks' stats is Monday to Sunday. A league I am in intentionally changed our sim schedule to coincide with schedule.

I would like for the to change the '7 day lineups' to match this to make it consistent.

hefalumps · 08-06-2013, 08:17 PM

For what it's worth, I agree that everything should be in agreement. I remember thinking it odd that the "Last Week" split and the player of the week went Sunday to Saturday, especially since the PoW was announced on Monday. So for me personally, I like that it runs Monday to Sunday, but I think everything (including 7-day lineups) should run on the same schedule.

I know the first day of the week on a calendar is a Sunday, but I've always treated Monday as the first day of the week.

It would be even better if this was an option, so people could have it whichever way they preferred, but I imagine that might be tricky.

bailey · 08-06-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by byzeil

Yes, the split for 'Last Weeks' stats is Monday to Sunday. A league I am in intentionally changed our sim schedule several seasons ago to coincide with schedule.

I would like for the to change the '7 day lineups' to match this to make it consistent.

In 14 before the patch, it was Sunday-Saturday, at least in this view:

byzeil · 08-06-2013, 08:31 PM

I really never noticed in that view. I used the 'last week' split when I was here:

RchW · 08-06-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

Since when does the week start on a Monday?

Always.

hefalumps · 08-06-2013, 09:03 PM

Yeah whichever one gets used it should be consistent throughout. That's one of my big beefs with some of the different financial pages - they use different estimates of future payrolls to figure budget room, so it's not clear which one is correct.

gehrig38 · 08-06-2013, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bailey

The "Player of the Week" award is now based on stats complied from Monday through Sunday instead of Sunday through Saturday. Also, pitchers have a higher chance of winning it now.

Not exactly sure what the motivation for this is, but the game is now not consistent with what a 'week' is.

7 day lineups reading left to right ---Sunday-Saturday
last week stats (under split for either batters or pitchers)--- Sunday-Saturday
Player of the Week Award formerly in agreement, now it is not.

I would like the option to go back to Sunday-Saturday for Player of the Week.

I went to a great deal of trouble to create a customized schedule that follows the Sunday-Saturday week and now it's all for nothing. My schedule features 6 or 7 game series between 2 teams each week for the whole season. It makes sense for the player of the week to be based on stats from the set of games against a single team and now it won't be.

An alternate solution is to have 7 day lineups and 'last week' stats also be based on Monday - Sunday. My schedule is easy enough to alter for that solution. Whatever is decided, please, make it consistent throughout the game!

Player of the week is determined Monday through Sunday.

Questdog · 08-06-2013, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bailey

Are you saying 'last week' stats are based on Monday-Sunday and that Markus omitted this change in the list of changes? That would make sense.

Now, hopefully, 7-day lineups can be changed to read Monday-Sunday. I can change my schedule to start on a Monday, I guess.

Exactly, but I would bet that we'll have to live with the 7-day lineups as they are for a while......

Le Grande Orange · 08-07-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hefalumps

That's one of my big beefs with some of the different financial pages - they use different estimates of future payrolls to figure budget room, so it's not clear which one is correct.

Well, that's easily answered: they're all correct. The numbers differ because of the page you're looking at. Just like how light is a wave or particle depending on the experiment being run.

(Future payroll duality? A new principle of OOTP financial physics!)

08-06-2013, 07:08 PM	#1
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,128	14.4.23 breaks a feature The "Player of the Week" award is now based on stats complied from Monday through Sunday instead of Sunday through Saturday. Also, pitchers have a higher chance of winning it now. Not exactly sure what the motivation for this is, but the game is now not consistent with what a 'week' is. 7 day lineups reading left to right ---Sunday-Saturday last week stats (under split for either batters or pitchers)--- Sunday-Saturday Player of the Week Award formerly in agreement, now it is not. I would like the option to go back to Sunday-Saturday for Player of the Week. I went to a great deal of trouble to create a customized schedule that follows the Sunday-Saturday week and now it's all for nothing. My schedule features 6 or 7 game series between 2 teams each week for the whole season. It makes sense for the player of the week to be based on stats from the set of games against a single team and now it won't be. An alternate solution is to have 7 day lineups and 'last week' stats also be based on Monday - Sunday. My schedule is easy enough to alter for that solution. Whatever is decided, please, make it consistent throughout the game! __________________

08-06-2013, 07:44 PM	#3
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	Hey! Bailey! Long time no speak! Anyways, last week's stats ARE Monday to Sunday.... As you can see from this player's record (June 6 was a Sunday and not included): And if you do the 'split' on a list of players, you get the same results there as on the Player Page.....Monday through Sunday I agree that the 7-day lineups should start on a Monday, but that is just a cosmetic issue.... The reason for the change is that Monday is the start of a new week, not Sunday....new series almost invariably begin on Monday and Sunday is the end of a series 99.9% of the time..... If Sunday is the first day of the week, why is it a part of the weekEND?..... Last edited by Questdog; 08-06-2013 at 07:52 PM.

08-06-2013, 08:02 PM	#4
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08-06-2013, 08:10 PM	#5
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,128	Are you saying 'last week' stats are based on Monday-Sunday and that Markus omitted this change in the list of changes? That would make sense. Now, hopefully, 7-day lineups can be changed to read Monday-Sunday. I can change my schedule to start on a Monday, I guess. __________________

08-06-2013, 08:31 PM	#9
byzeil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ, US Posts: 2,002	I really never noticed in that view. I used the 'last week' split when I was here: Attached Images Last edited by byzeil; 08-06-2013 at 08:32 PM.

08-06-2013, 07:30 PM	#2
mpejkrm All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 951	Thanks for letting me know. Have not updated yet.

08-06-2013, 08:17 PM	#7
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,357	For what it's worth, I agree that everything should be in agreement. I remember thinking it odd that the "Last Week" split and the player of the week went Sunday to Saturday, especially since the PoW was announced on Monday. So for me personally, I like that it runs Monday to Sunday, but I think everything (including 7-day lineups) should run on the same schedule. I know the first day of the week on a calendar is a Sunday, but I've always treated Monday as the first day of the week. It would be even better if this was an option, so people could have it whichever way they preferred, but I imagine that might be tricky.

08-06-2013, 09:03 PM	#11
hefalumps All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,357	Yeah whichever one gets used it should be consistent throughout. That's one of my big beefs with some of the different financial pages - they use different estimates of future payrolls to figure budget room, so it's not clear which one is correct.