Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP 25 Available - FHM 10 Available - OOTP Go! Available

Out of the Park Baseball 25 Buy Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Out of the Park Developments > Talk Sports

Talk Sports Discuss everything that is sports-related, like MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, MLS, NASCAR, NCAA sports and teams, trades, coaches, bad calls etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-23-2019, 12:50 AM   #1
Cobra Mgr
Hall Of Famer
 
Cobra Mgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Parts unknown
Posts: 6,272
Dave Winfield was a boss

I knew the story about Winfield getting drafted by 4 pro leagues. But I wasn't aware of just how good he was in college. Didn't know he was a pitcher. Didn't know he was on the Big 10 champions in basketball. Didn't know he went to the CWS. Since he played hockey as a kid, you wonder if there were more people of color in the NHL if he would have played longer on the ice.

I will say I think he is an example of how making teens specialize in one sport is to their detriment.
__________________
If a man is guilty
4 what goes on inside of his mind,
then let me get the electric chair
4 all my future crimes.

- Prince
Batdance
June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016
Cobra Mgr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2019, 03:58 AM   #2
Westheim
Hall Of Famer
 
Westheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Germany
Posts: 11,806
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr View Post
I will say I think he is an example of how making teens specialize in one sport is to their detriment.
Anything - anything at all - that makes teens put down their ****ing phone for five minutes is already a win.
__________________
Portland Raccoons, 83 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here!
1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055
1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA | RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO

Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.
Westheim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2019, 09:21 PM   #3
Déjà Bru
Hall Of Famer
 
Déjà Bru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 10,436
This is not exactly germane to your 3-sport / 4-draft* observation of him, but I recall rooting every day for Dave Winfield to get his 3,000th hit and I was overjoyed when he did. That he did so in a Twins uniform did not matter to me; that's how much of an impression he made on me in his 9 seasons in pinstripes. The year before, he was in 5th place for the MVP and was a Silver Slugger, at age 40. That man was a heck of a ballplayer and he hit some of the hardest line drives that I have seen in my life.

*Heh, I originally had that as "4-sport" but then I said, what, hockey too? (Your reference to hockey had something to do with my error.) But no, it was three sports and four drafts (2 basketball leagues):

Baseball: San Diego Padres, first round (fourth overall)

Basketball: Atlanta Hawks (NBA), fifth round; Utah Stars (ABA), fourth round

Football: Minnesota Vikings, 17th round
__________________

- Bru



Last edited by Déjà Bru; 04-23-2019 at 09:29 PM.
Déjà Bru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 02:36 AM   #4
Germaniac
Hall Of Famer
 
Germaniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Frankenthal, Germany
Posts: 2,993
He was a great player, and being called "Mr. May" by Steinbrenner just proved that that man didn't know anything about baseball.
__________________
I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day.
And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play,
and I say it's because he's black,
that might not be a satisfactory answer.


Happy Chandler, 1947
Germaniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 04:50 PM   #5
rink23
Hall Of Famer
 
rink23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 17,730
Unfortunately Winfield's most memorable moment had the hardwood had to do with his fists rather than his ability to put a round ball through a hoop.


http://www.startribune.com/hoops-bra...ory/411419775/
rink23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2019, 05:52 PM   #6
Déjà Bru
Hall Of Famer
 
Déjà Bru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 10,436
Quote:
Originally Posted by rink23 View Post
Unfortunately Winfield's most memorable moment had the hardwood had to do with his fists rather than his ability to put a round ball through a hoop.

http://www.startribune.com/hoops-bra...ory/411419775/
Yeah, he was definitely on the wrong side of that one, defending his Gopher teammates. But he had to do what he had to do, of course; they were his teammates.

Wow, that video is tough to look at, not because it's that violent, though. Nobody was seriously hurt, even the Buckeye center whose head was stomped.

It's the guy helping him up and then kneeing him in the groin that is jaw-dropping and tough to take. Talk about cheap shots. What a jerk that guy was.

Yet (and I don't mean to derail this thread), boys grow into men and sometimes those men turn out to be wiser, much wiser, than you would have projected for them. Both of the principal Gophers in this incident were featured later in life by the Minnesota Star Tribune:

Overcoming fight's stigma drives Turner

Ex-Gopher Taylor resolved ugliness of his worst hour

In the latter story, the main perpetrator who had just passed away was mourned by . . . the Buckeye who got the knee! Apparently they had become friends. (And we read that he, too, was not entirely innocent, having elbowed a Gopher in the face earlier in the game.)

None of which is about Dave Winfield other than he was wailing on another Buckeye during the brawl. Imagine being on the receiving end of that beating.

Returning the thread to Mr. Winfield. Who is going to bring up the seagull story?
__________________

- Bru


Déjà Bru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2019, 02:31 AM   #7
Germaniac
Hall Of Famer
 
Germaniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Frankenthal, Germany
Posts: 2,993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Déjà Bru View Post
Returning the thread to Mr. Winfield. Who is going to bring up the seagull story?
I won't

But imagine what kind of a story that would be today in these crazy social media times
__________________
I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day.
And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play,
and I say it's because he's black,
that might not be a satisfactory answer.


Happy Chandler, 1947
Germaniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2019, 02:35 AM   #8
Germaniac
Hall Of Famer
 
Germaniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Frankenthal, Germany
Posts: 2,993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra Mgr View Post
I knew the story about Winfield getting drafted by 4 pro leagues. But I wasn't aware of just how good he was in college. Didn't know he was a pitcher. Didn't know he was on the Big 10 champions in basketball. Didn't know he went to the CWS. Since he played hockey as a kid, you wonder if there were more people of color in the NHL if he would have played longer on the ice.

I will say I think he is an example of how making teens specialize in one sport is to their detriment.
But to get back to the original post - I don't think we'll see many multi-sports stars anymore. And the reason in my opinion is quite simple:

With so much money to be earned in all major sports most kids will decide early what path to follow and what skills to improve to make them very good (and very rich) in one sport.

And basically this makes sense to me.
__________________
I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day.
And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play,
and I say it's because he's black,
that might not be a satisfactory answer.


Happy Chandler, 1947
Germaniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2019, 10:37 AM   #9
Cobra Mgr
Hall Of Famer
 
Cobra Mgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Parts unknown
Posts: 6,272
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germaniac View Post
But to get back to the original post - I don't think we'll see many multi-sports stars anymore. And the reason in my opinion is quite simple:

With so much money to be earned in all major sports most kids will decide early what path to follow and what skills to improve to make them very good (and very rich) in one sport.

And basically this makes sense to me.
I think the opposite. As Winfield said, being good in multiple sports gave him leverage. It did so for Elway. It did so for Kyler Murray.

And I think it prevents injuries playing different sports. Because you ask your body to do different things. Using your body to repetitively do the same tasks causes problems down the road.
__________________
If a man is guilty
4 what goes on inside of his mind,
then let me get the electric chair
4 all my future crimes.

- Prince
Batdance
June 7, 1958 - Apr 21, 2016
Cobra Mgr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2019, 08:17 PM   #10
Buster Cherry
Minors (Triple A)
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Southwest Virginia
Posts: 297
I remember a woman once suing Dave Winfield because she claimed he gave her an STD. The woman was Mike Tyson's then mother-in-law. Don't know the outcome of the case.
Buster Cherry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2019, 09:37 PM   #11
darkhorse
Hall Of Famer
 
darkhorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: fort worth, tx
Posts: 10,850
Quote:
Originally Posted by Germaniac View Post
He was a great player, and being called "Mr. May" by Steinbrenner just proved that that man didn't know anything about baseball.
Steinbrenner sure was committed to winning and brought home a lot of silverware for such a know nothing. Also, Winfield batted .208/.304/.337 in 101 playoff at bats so that barb, while unfair, might have found its target.

Winfield averaged 9.0 ppg and 5.8 rpg in two seasons at Minnesota. Those teams were lead by two future NBA players, Jim Brewer and Ron Behagen.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...sota/1972.html
__________________
"The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

Last edited by darkhorse; 05-24-2019 at 09:38 PM.
darkhorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:41 AM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2023 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2020 Out of the Park Developments