Why can't I.....

[Jabs]

...demote an injured player who is listed as day-to-day on my Major League Roster? It tells me that the player is injured and to put him on the DL instead. I don't want to as the season is going into the playoffs and the AAA team is done. He doesn't need a trip to the DL (his injured time is only a few days), but I need to trim my roster down to 25 players.

This isn't a huge deal, but I shouldn't be forced to place a day-to-day player on the DL. I wouldn't mind if it suggested I could put him on the DL, but then still allow me to demote him to AAA.

[Syd Thrift]

LGO or the like can probably cite chapter and verse but I'm pretty sure there are major league rules against demoting injured players. Since minor league time is not counted against service time but DL time is, it could be used to stretch out the pre-free agency period of a younger player who gets hurt.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

LGO or the like can probably cite chapter and verse but I'm pretty sure there are major league rules against demoting injured players. Since minor league time is not counted against service time but DL time is, it could be used to stretch out the pre-free agency period of a younger player who gets hurt.

yeah, but what if you want to demote him not because he is inured but because he is playing poorly? the comissioner's office doesn't even need to know that the player is injured.

[Syd Thrift]

Except that all injuries are going to be reported for insurance reasons.

[endgame]

If he's only DTD, and the playoffs are within a few days, trim your roster down as you've planned, and simply keep him a part of the active 25. It sounds as if you want to have the player available, so why not run with the 24 certainties and hope he'll be healed in time to utilize him in the lineup? How important is he in your playoff plans, assuming he will eventually be able to contribute? In addition, if you are going into the playoffs and you were able to demote him, you won't have another opportunity to bring him onto an active roster until that playoff series ends anyway. If you won't miss him, then what's the harm in DLing him in the first place?

[kingcharlesxii]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

LGO or the like can probably cite chapter and verse but I'm pretty sure there are major league rules against demoting injured players. Since minor league time is not counted against service time but DL time is, it could be used to stretch out the pre-free agency period of a younger player who gets hurt.

Yep, this year in MLB the Brewers wanted to send P Marco Estrada to the minors but since he was injured he was instead sent to the DL and is accruing service time.

[Scott Vibert]

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

yeah, but what if you want to demote him not because he is inured but because he is playing poorly? the comissioner's office doesn't even need to know that the player is injured.

This would likely result in a grievance which the team would lose. While on the DL the player makes the MLB minimum as opposed to 1/10th that in the minors. If the player can legitimately cite an injury, he goes to the DL. In OOTP we know for certain the player is hurt and have to play by the rules.

[Mitch McQuick]

Originally Posted by Jabs

...demote an injured player who is listed as day-to-day on my Major League Roster? It tells me that the player is injured and to put him on the DL instead. I don't want to as the season is going into the playoffs and the AAA team is done. He doesn't need a trip to the DL (his injured time is only a few days), but I need to trim my roster down to 25 players.

This isn't a huge deal, but I shouldn't be forced to place a day-to-day player on the DL. I wouldn't mind if it suggested I could put him on the DL, but then still allow me to demote him to AAA.

This seems to be an incovenience of OOTP. When the playoffs start, teams that make the playoffs should be able to send whatever players they don't want on their first round playoff roster to some sort of temporary inactive list (or move the 25 players they want on the first-round roster from their active roster to a "playoff roster").

I'm into my first playoff experience with OOTP11 and here's how I am getting around the issue. Since I act as supreme overlord over all teams' transactions (Commisioner Mode checked on my Manager Options page, and I clicked "Set all teams to not allow AI roster changes" under Roster Functions of the Game Setup > Functions page), I go the player's Editor page (tab will appear to the right of BNN Player Page in Commisioner Mode) and assign a 1-day None injury to the players who I deem not worthy of being on the 25-man playoff roster, then move them to the 15-day DL from the Transactions Overview page, then I open up their Editor Page and shorten their time left on the DL to 1 day (or I guess 0 would work too). In essence, I am using the DL as a place to store my inactives ("series scratches" to hockey types) and I try to follow all the rules that are in place and have been explained very well by Le Grande Orange at several places in the forum when it comes to replacing injured players between or during series.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Mitch McQuick

This seems to be an incovenience of OOTP. When the playoffs start, teams that make the playoffs should be able to send whatever players they don't want on their first round playoff roster to some sort of temporary inactive list (or move the 25 players they want on the first-round roster from their active roster to a "playoff roster").

I'm into my first playoff experience with OOTP11 and here's how I am getting around the issue. Since I act as supreme overlord over all teams' transactions (Commisioner Mode checked on my Manager Options page, and I clicked "Set all teams to not allow AI roster changes" under Roster Functions of the Game Setup > Functions page), I go the player's Editor page (tab will appear to the right of BNN Player Page in Commisioner Mode) and assign a 1-day None injury to the players who I deem not worthy of being on the 25-man playoff roster, then move them to the 15-day DL from the Transactions Overview page, then I open up their Editor Page and shorten their time left on the DL to 1 day (or I guess 0 would work too). In essence, I am using the DL as a place to store my inactives ("series scratches" to hockey types) and I try to follow all the rules that are in place and have been explained very well by Le Grande Orange at several places in the forum when it comes to replacing injured players between or during series.

That's complicated. The day after the reg season ends, set the DFA and Waiver lists to 31 days. That effectively stops all player movement but allows you to move players as allowed between series. At the end of the playoffs set the DFA/waivers back to normal. You will have 3-5 days to trade or dispose of guys with no options.

I do this to prevent waiver claims making it onto playoff rosters.