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Old 02-25-2019, 02:59 PM   #1
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Season 13 (2031) Discussion: 2/25/19-3/03/19

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Old 02-25-2019, 03:01 PM   #2
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8th season in Diamond Level, but the wrong Doolittle
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:36 PM   #3
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I have a Diamond team (Hungary Hungry Hippos)
A Gold Team (Winterfell Direwolves)
A Silver Team (Macon County Cardinals)

I have been focused on the Hippos almost exclusively for the last 6 weeks. Diamond may be their ceiling. They were promoted because they went to the Series (as the wildcard team) but they only finished 2nd in their division in Gold so it is not like they dominated.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:05 PM   #4
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8th season in Diamond Level, but the wrong Doolittle
At Diamond/Perfect, Doolittle pretty much needs to become LOOGY. He gets crushed by RH power hitters.

Here's the early vR stats from my Perfect League for him. That's way too much variance and I bet most of the higher ERAs are Doolittles not set to Lefty Specialist that are trying to pitch full innings.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:17 PM   #5
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So, I've run into the Everett Aqua Sox multiple times in Perfect Leagues. He's a 4xPL champ. He's 10-0 right now, but thankfully in the other conference. Anyway, what always is interesting to me is his pitching. He has extremely elite SP which allows him to run a 5 man pen (full of elite starters) that doesn't even have anyone set for Closer/Setup/Stopper. No true RP on the team. Then he's able to go nuts with the platoons.

Such a well-crafted team, but an expensive one. Better than most of those "Buy all the Perfects" whales that have no strategy. He only has 7 actual Perfects.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:19 PM   #6
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That's way too much variance and I bet most of the higher ERAs are Doolittles not set to Lefty Specialist that are trying to pitch full innings.
And then they Doo little

Very interesting stat
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:25 PM   #7
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Just realized Kushiel's Yakity Yaks (3xPL champs) are in the Aqua Sox conference. Good luck and I'll hopefully see you in the championship.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:34 PM   #8
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I always do hate it when my Doolittle gets beaten out by the other Doolittle.

Just because I was bored, I went through my Diamond league to find out the most common cards out there. J.D. Martinez and Will Smith edging Doolittle out for most common out there.

C TIE Buster Posey (2018 Live) & Wilson Ramos (2018 Live) (8 cards)
1B Freddie Freeman (2018 Live) (5 cards)
2B Jose Altuve (2018 Live) (7 cards)
3B Justin Turner (2018 Live) (8 cards)
SS Manny Machado (2018 Live) (11 cards)
LF Christian Yelich (2018 Live) (5 cards)
CF Mike Trout (2018 Live) (7 cards)
RF Lorenzo Cain (2018 Live) (11 cards)
DH J.D. Martinez (2018 Live) (17 cards)

SP Patrick Corbin (2018 Live) (11 cards)
SP Larry Dierker (Unsung Hero) (9 cards)
SP James Paxton (2018 Live) (8 cards)
SP Noah Syndergaard (2018 Live) (7 cards)
SP Max Scherzer (2018 Live) (6 cards)

BP Will Smith (2018 Live) (17 cards)
BP Sean Doolittle (2018 Live) (16 cards)
BP Kirby Yates (2018 Live) (9 cards)
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:14 PM   #9
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Dock Ellis doesn't really need a defense, I guess, or maybe the team trainers have been handing out the good stuff. With everyone beside my catcher and Hack Wilson playing out of position, he's playing even better than last season:

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The season opener had to hurt though, 0 earned runs and got tagged with a loss. Really thought I'd have more growing pains, but the rest of the staff is doing fine and we're 11-4 in the early going.
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:55 PM   #10
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3rd season in Diamond for me. Made it to the Sub-League Series last week, but lost in 7 games to the eventual champion.

Last season we finished with an overall ERA of 3.14, the lowest I've ever had. Scoring runs was an issue though. I scored 135 less runs than the previous diamond season - some of that could've been due to midseason changes to train players up in other positions when I thought we were out of the running but it's still a worrying stat.

Added 93OVR Gavvy Cravath late last season - the extreme power version, not the high contact/high power version. I'm hoping the power he and Socks Seybold have will create high leverage situations I can take advantage of. I'm also trying a new lineup order strategy. We shall see if it works.

We're 8-6 so far.

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Old 02-26-2019, 12:28 AM   #11
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Ugh, got a tanker in my Perfect League. And they weren't even subtle about it, replacing all their SP with Irons and benching Trout & Betts. Reported them, but I'm going to reap the rewards in this series. Only made 230 PP in my the first game on a 10-0 win.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:46 AM   #12
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Oh man, and this team in the same division as the tanker suddenly decided to switch to an all-LH 4-man opener strategy. Such garbage play. Reported them, too. Perfect League isn't time to try out terrible tactics like this. He might be transitioning to an all-LH starter 5-man or something because it doesn't look like a full tank job, but the transition needs to be more gradual than this.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:54 AM   #13
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Looks like he's trying to bait players into playing their LHP lineup and pull the starter early (since Smith/Doolittle/Chapman are all closers) for an onslaught from the right handers.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:56 AM   #14
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Looks like he's trying to bait players into playing their LHP lineup and pull the starter early (since Smith/Doolittle/Chapman are all closers) for an onslaught from the right handers.
Heh - that's actually pretty clever...
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Old 02-26-2019, 01:03 AM   #15
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Looks like he's trying to bait players into playing their LHP lineup and pull the starter early (since Smith/Doolittle/Chapman are all closers) for an onslaught from the right handers.
Yeah, it's a switcheroo opener strategy, but they just suddenly adopted it a few games ago and are going to get wrecked. It's not really a strategy that works in this game due to the RP/SP bonuses and penalties. RP are forced to pitch like SP and are garbage at it so they get crushed even in 1-2 inning stints.

And the only time I've seen something like it work was an all LHP elite starter 5-man rotation and a ballpark set to neuter RHB. I.E. not an opener strategy, but a gimmick to mess with standard lineups.

It's not as blatant a problem as Team #1, but the developers specifically have said that making drastic experimental changes like this suddenly in the higher levels isn't considered a legitimate attempt to compete.

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Looks like he's trying to bait players into playing their LHP lineup and pull the starter early (since Smith/Doolittle/Chapman are all closers) for an onslaught from the right handers.

I basically did something very similar to this 2 seasons ago to prove that you could win with an all LHP starting rotation in Perfect.


I used starters rather than relievers though, but I did manage to get my RHP dominated bullpen matched up early against a lot of RHB lineups.


It worked okay. Won my division but lost in the sub-league series in 6 games.
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HAAHAAHAHAH, OMFG. My defending Perfect Team champs somehow lost to a team that started 50-rated Brent Suter. This game sometimes. Won't even let a tanking team properly tank.
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So, I've run into the Everett Aqua Sox multiple times in Perfect Leagues. He's a 4xPL champ. He's 10-0 right now, but thankfully in the other conference. Anyway, what always is interesting to me is his pitching. He has extremely elite SP which allows him to run a 5 man pen (full of elite starters) that doesn't even have anyone set for Closer/Setup/Stopper. No true RP on the team. Then he's able to go nuts with the platoons.

Such a well-crafted team, but an expensive one. Better than most of those "Buy all the Perfects" whales that have no strategy. He only has 7 actual Perfects.

I have a TON of respect for Twinsfan, the manager of the Aqua Sox. He seems to be ahead of the curve on a lot of things such as this. I remember the first season in the Perfect Leagues, just going through his strategy that first World Series as a couple of us were trying to dissect what he was doing when he went with a two man rotation in the playoffs. It was really a great opportunity to theorycraft pitching.


I haven't had the opportunity to play in the same league as the Aqua Sox for quite some time but I've adopted several of his pitching strategies and tried to tinker with them a little bit to suit what I'm trying to accomplish.


I don't completely understand everything he does (and would love the opportunity to discuss stuff with him), but all I know is that he keeps winning and that's good enough for me.
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I'm going to have to watch him more closely in the playoffs. I think there's a ton of out-of-the-box strategy that can work there to take advantage of the short series and extra rest days. And after accidentally playing a half season of a 4-man rotation, I've realized 80% fatigue isn't all that bad especially if you have a bullpen than can successfully take over after 5-6 inning starts.

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Yeah, it's a switcheroo opener strategy, but they just suddenly adopted it a few games ago and are going to get wrecked. It's not really a strategy that works in this game due to the RP/SP bonuses and penalties. RP are forced to pitch like SP and are garbage at it so they get crushed even in 1-2 inning stints.

And the only time I've seen something like it work was an all LHP elite starter 5-man rotation and a ballpark set to neuter RHB. I.E. not an opener strategy, but a gimmick to mess with standard lineups.

It's not as blatant a problem as Team #1, but the developers specifically have said that making drastic experimental changes like this suddenly in the higher levels isn't considered a legitimate attempt to compete.

Hi, I have a lot of respect for you as a poster, but I'm going to have to take exception at your statement that this is a problem and not a legitimate attempt to compete.


As I mentioned above, I did basically what you claim is a gimmick but did so expressly with the intent of winning, and I told everyone the season before that I was going to try to do this.


Adjusting ballpark factors isn't a gimmick but a completely valid strategy of playing to your teams strengths and magnifying other teams' weaknesses.


Also, I don't consider attempting to set up favorable matchups for my bullpen to take advantage of is any different than teams platooning lineups to take advantage of pitching handedness splits.


All I did was go with a 4 man pitching rotation of LHP, set my starter hook all the way to the left, and loaded up my bullpen with RHP. People knew I was going to do it and they were more than given the opportunity to adjust. Whether they chose to or not was entirely up to them.



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