No HBP in Minor League (Triple A)

landru22 · 05-03-2013, 08:11 PM

After approximately a month of the season, I noticed that there have been zero hit by pitches in my minor league. The Majors seem to be okay. This is a fictional league that was converted from OOTP13.

I checked all my league modifiers and they seem to be in order. Last season's triple A leader was HBP 23 times. Is this just some kind of statistical anomaly?
Anyone have any idea why this could be happening?

landru22 · 05-10-2013, 11:03 AM

I guess I'm the only one with this problem. If anyone is interested, I have tried to change the modifiers in the Strategy section of league options, but still no one has been hit by a pitch. It is now May 18th in this league. I am going to try to DRASTICALLY alter the modifiers to see what happens next. If anyone has any input, I would greatly appreciate it.

RchW · 05-10-2013, 12:44 PM

Before you do that what is the league total number for HBP to the left of the modifier?

landru22 · 05-10-2013, 02:06 PM

Thanks for the reply. The total number of HBP is 950. All the numbers to the right are 1.0. Don't know if it matters, but i'll list them all below:

AB 88639
Hits 24009
Doubles 4865
Triples 613
HR 2533
Walks 8753
HBP 950
K's 18596
BABIP .318

I had bumped up the HBP to 950. I don't remember exactly what it was before, but I think it was more like 925.

landru22 · 05-10-2013, 02:09 PM

If it means anything, the "Automatically adjust league totals modifiers for accuracy" box is not checked. As I mentioned in my first post, all the modifiers carried over the same as they were in OOTP13.

RchW · 05-10-2013, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landru22

If it means anything, the "Automatically adjust league totals modifiers for accuracy" box is not checked. As I mentioned in my first post, all the modifiers carried over the same as they were in OOTP13.

Don't check that box. Modifiers go nuts not in a good way.

Let it go for another 2 weeks. Those numbers are actually quite high for HBP. They translate into 93.3 AB/HBP which compares to 107 AB/HBP IRL.

It does seem weird.

koohead · 05-10-2013, 06:47 PM

Maybe try checking the "Automatically control in-game engine to match league totals" would help?

landru22 · 05-11-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by koohead

Maybe try checking the "Automatically control in-game engine to match league totals" would help?

It was checked. I'll try to un-check it to see if that has any effect.

By the way, I found someone else with the same problem. Has any else really checked to see if anyone is getting HBP in their minors? I need confirmation

landru22 · 05-11-2013, 12:26 PM

As a test, I created a whole new fictional league with AAA and AA minor leagues. I simulated two months. Players in the Majors are getting HBP but no one in either minor league is. I'm nearly convinced now that there is something wrong with OOTP 14. I will create a new bug report if I can figure out how.

Painmantle · 05-11-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by landru22

As a test, I created a whole new fictional league with AAA and AA minor leagues. I simulated two months. Players in the Majors are getting HBP but no one in either minor league is. I'm nearly convinced now that there is something wrong with OOTP 14. I will create a new bug report if I can figure out how.

You don't create a new thread in the Bug section, just post your bug in the Bug report thread ALL bug reports go in the same thread to help track them without searching for them and it makes it easier for them to know what's been fixed and what hasn't

the thread is here

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...rt-thread.html

RchW · 05-11-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by landru22

It was checked. I'll try to un-check it to see if that has any effect.

By the way, I found someone else with the same problem. Has any else really checked to see if anyone is getting HBP in their minors? I need confirmation

Quote:

Originally Posted by landru22

As a test, I created a whole new fictional league with AAA and AA minor leagues. I simulated two months. Players in the Majors are getting HBP but no one in either minor league is. I'm nearly convinced now that there is something wrong with OOTP 14. I will create a new bug report if I can figure out how.

You are 100% right. This is a major bug. I can't believe I didn't see this after replying to your posts. Good catch. I'll be playing v13 until this is fixed

landru22 · 05-13-2013, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landru22

It was checked. I'll try to un-check it to see if that has any effect.

By the way, I found someone else with the same problem. Has any else really checked to see if anyone is getting HBP in their minors? I need confirmation

I tried to uncheck "Automatically Control In-Game Engine" and this seems to have helped. Hitters are now getting HBP in Minor League games. I think they may be getting hit TOO much now, so I will modify the modifiers. Any one have any idea as to why this may have worked????

RchW · 05-13-2013, 09:41 PM

I just started a new 2013 MLB game and after a month there are no HBP in the minors.

JohnHoward · 05-13-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

I just started a new 2013 MLB game and after a month there are no HBP in the minors.

I have the same set-up as OP and I have HBP at every level of minors.

One thing I noticed in the thread is that OP RAISED the league totals for HBP in an attempt to get MORE HBP. That is exactly wrong. Either you LOWER the league totals or you raise the modifier, but if you raise the league totals you will get fewer of whatever, not more.

Not trying to disconfirm here, just reporting, and I have HBP at all levels of minors.

JohnHoward · 05-13-2013, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landru22

Thanks for the reply. The total number of HBP is 950. All the numbers to the right are 1.0. Don't know if it matters, but i'll list them all below:

AB 88639
Hits 24009
Doubles 4865
Triples 613
HR 2533
Walks 8753
HBP 950
K's 18596
BABIP .318

I had bumped up the HBP to 950. I don't remember exactly what it was before, but I think it was more like 925.

Just by the way, here are my AAA totals for comparison:
AB 67362
H 17283
D 3490
T 369
HR 1563
BB 6774
HBP 688
K 14626
BABIP .304

Auto adjust unchecked
Auto control unchecked

PhillieFever · 05-13-2013, 09:57 PM

I just checked, I have zero HBP in the minor leagues

JohnHoward · 05-13-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillieFever

I just checked, I have zero HBP in the minor leagues

That is troubling, since I know you of all people have adjusted your league totals correctly. Wow ... I'm not experiencing this problem so I don't know what to say.

RchW · 05-13-2013, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnHoward

I have the same set-up as OP and I have HBP at every level of minors.

One thing I noticed in the thread is that OP RAISED the league totals for HBP in an attempt to get MORE HBP. That is exactly wrong. Either you LOWER the league totals or you raise the modifier, but if you raise the league totals you will get fewer of whatever, not more.

I found no HBP in a completely unrelated league to the OP imported from v13. I then started the flagship "New Major League Game" and there are no HBP in the minors. Another QS game shows the same. No adjustments have been made to HPB totals.

I'd say 3 for three along with the other reports suggest this is a significant bug.

JohnHoward · 05-13-2013, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RchW

I found no HBP in a completely unrelated league to the OP imported from v13. I then started the flagship "New Major League Game" and there are no HBP in the minors. Another QS game shows the same. No adjustments have been made to HPB totals.

I'd say 3 for three along with the other reports suggest this is a significant bug.

Yep, I think you are right.

byzeil · 05-13-2013, 11:48 PM

I just checked a league that I moved from v13 to v14 for HBP in the minors and I am getting none. I am however getting HBP in Feeder Leagues.

So I'm seeing HBP in Majors and Feeders but not in Minor leagues.

I have not changed the HBP modifier.

05-03-2013, 08:11 PM	#1
landru22 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 440	No HBP in Minor League (Triple A) After approximately a month of the season, I noticed that there have been zero hit by pitches in my minor league. The Majors seem to be okay. This is a fictional league that was converted from OOTP13. I checked all my league modifiers and they seem to be in order. Last season's triple A leader was HBP 23 times. Is this just some kind of statistical anomaly? Anyone have any idea why this could be happening?

05-10-2013, 12:44 PM	#3
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	Before you do that what is the league total number for HBP to the left of the modifier? __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-10-2013, 06:47 PM	#7
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,137	Maybe try checking the "Automatically control in-game engine to match league totals" would help? __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

05-13-2013, 09:41 PM	#13
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The big smoke Posts: 15,628	I just started a new 2013 MLB game and after a month there are no HBP in the minors. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-13-2013, 11:48 PM	#20
byzeil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ, US Posts: 2,002	I just checked a league that I moved from v13 to v14 for HBP in the minors and I am getting none. I am however getting HBP in Feeder Leagues. So I'm seeing HBP in Majors and Feeders but not in Minor leagues. I have not changed the HBP modifier. Last edited by byzeil; 05-13-2013 at 11:52 PM.

05-10-2013, 11:03 AM	#2
landru22 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 440	I guess I'm the only one with this problem. If anyone is interested, I have tried to change the modifiers in the Strategy section of league options, but still no one has been hit by a pitch. It is now May 18th in this league. I am going to try to DRASTICALLY alter the modifiers to see what happens next. If anyone has any input, I would greatly appreciate it.

05-10-2013, 02:06 PM	#4
landru22 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 440	Thanks for the reply. The total number of HBP is 950. All the numbers to the right are 1.0. Don't know if it matters, but i'll list them all below: AB 88639 Hits 24009 Doubles 4865 Triples 613 HR 2533 Walks 8753 HBP 950 K's 18596 BABIP .318 I had bumped up the HBP to 950. I don't remember exactly what it was before, but I think it was more like 925.

05-10-2013, 02:09 PM	#5
landru22 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 440	If it means anything, the "Automatically adjust league totals modifiers for accuracy" box is not checked. As I mentioned in my first post, all the modifiers carried over the same as they were in OOTP13.

05-11-2013, 12:26 PM	#9
landru22 Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 440	As a test, I created a whole new fictional league with AAA and AA minor leagues. I simulated two months. Players in the Majors are getting HBP but no one in either minor league is. I'm nearly convinced now that there is something wrong with OOTP 14. I will create a new bug report if I can figure out how.

05-13-2013, 09:57 PM	#16
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Elk Twp. NJ Posts: 6,763	I just checked, I have zero HBP in the minor leagues